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[masster blaster]

Oh and you know what else is funny the STARGAZER and the boy scene. That's right because if you pick Control the Kid should have said " So Shepard watches over us now' In which case should mean that Shepard is not a Legend because Shepard did not say in Control " I am leaving this galaxy, but instead said " I will watch over this galaxy and none shall ever pose a threat to my vast army" Ya that's some bull you may think but why not if Shepard is a Reaper why not even make Shepard a legend then if Shepard is still around but as a Reaper.

Also in Synthesis really the BEST ENDING. No you force SYNTHESIS on the GALAXY and you want to know what the Catalyst said about Organics about how " we tried to make Synthesis happened but it always ended up falling' Ya and know here's the best part all the Reaper ground forces are Synthetics and that's what THE BART meant about we tried but not oh to well.

[HellishFiend]

BatmanTurian wrote...

LT123 wrote...

@BatmanTurian

Thanks for your long post.

That made a lot of sense, especially the bits about the Hero's Journey.

Destroy is the only choice that makes any sense thematically.

Thank you for your confirmation that someone read it. I thought maybe it might get lost in all of this illogical arguing.

I read it too BT. It's a good post. I just hope that BW isnt going to leave the ending up to interpretation forever. I not only want and expect an answer eventually, but I also expect them to fulfill their other promises such as Rachni being involved in the ending and seeing your war assets take part. 

[senshi420]

BatmanTurian wrote...

LT123 wrote...

@BatmanTurian

Thanks for your long post.

That made a lot of sense, especially the bits about the Hero's Journey.

Destroy is the only choice that makes any sense thematically.

Thank you for your confirmation that someone read it. I thought maybe it might get lost in all of this illogical arguing.

i did infact read it as well, one does not ignore a giant scaly batman and expect to have a good day.

[Ruadh]

Were those waterfalls on the citadel always there? Or did I just never notice them?

[Tirian Thorn]

BatmanTurian wrote...

LT123 wrote...

@BatmanTurian

Thanks for your long post.

That made a lot of sense, especially the bits about the Hero's Journey.

Destroy is the only choice that makes any sense thematically.

Thank you for your confirmation that someone read it. I thought maybe it might get lost in all of this illogical arguing.

I read it too. And I’ve posted a few times today with stuff I thought was good or at least funny and felt like I got buried in a pile of negatively… 

[Arian Dynas]

Also, BatmanTurian, thanks for the words, they'e encouraging.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

The message after Stargazer scene congratulates the player on ending the Reaper threat. But choosing Reject leaves the war going on. Am I missing something here?

No. Clearly even in Reject, Shepard personally ends the Reaper threat. Literalists have always assured me that the end message would never lie to us.

[senshi420]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The message after Stargazer scene congratulates the player on ending the Reaper threat. But choosing Reject leaves the war going on. Am I missing something here?

No. Clearly even in Reject, Shepard personally ends the Reaper threat. Literalists have always assured me that the end message would never lie to us.

 are you a wizard?.because that was magical.

[Tirian Thorn]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The message after Stargazer scene congratulates the player on ending the Reaper threat. But choosing Reject leaves the war going on. Am I missing something here?

No. Clearly even in Reject, Shepard personally ends the Reaper threat. Literalists have always assured me that the end message would never lie to us.

[HellishFiend]

senshi420 wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The message after Stargazer scene congratulates the player on ending the Reaper threat. But choosing Reject leaves the war going on. Am I missing something here?

No. Clearly even in Reject, Shepard personally ends the Reaper threat. Literalists have always assured me that the end message would never lie to us.

 are you a wizard?.because that was magical.

Indeed. By partially inspiring yet another time capsule, Shepard has personally ended the Reaper threat. Trivialization, much?

[Overdrive1493]

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Also in Synthesis really the BEST ENDING. No you force SYNTHESIS on the GALAXY and you want to know what the Catalyst said about Organics about how " we tried to make Synthesis happened but it always ended up falling' Ya and know here's the best part all the Reaper ground forces are Synthetics and that's what THE BART meant about we tried but not oh to well.

Tell me another story about the Simpson.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The message after Stargazer scene congratulates the player on ending the Reaper threat. But choosing Reject leaves the war going on. Am I missing something here?

No. Clearly even in Reject, Shepard personally ends the Reaper threat. Literalists have always assured me that the end message would never lie to us.

LOL. That's an uplifting ending.  I hope you don't think that.

Modifié par paxxton, 27 juin 2012 - 05:54 .

[Trollgunner]

Just a mere question : After getting your hand on EC, how many of you picked Refuse option('cuz of cool Shepard's speech) on your first re-visit on citadel?

[HellishFiend]

Trollgunner wrote...

Just a mere question : After getting your hand on EC, how many of you picked Refuse option('cuz of cool Shepard's speech) on your first re-visit on citadel?

I accidentally a bullet into the "Catalyst's" head, so I unwittingly picked Refuse...

[llbountyhunter]

Overdrive1493 wrote...

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

If i have to answer this question one more time.....


I knew it was a good idea to make that thread. Look at it. Its in my signature.the second one.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 juin 2012 - 05:55 .

[Sero303]

Trollgunner wrote...

Just a mere question : After getting your hand on EC, how many of you picked Refuse option('cuz of cool Shepard's speech) on your first re-visit on citadel?

without even giving it a second thought

[senshi420]

Overdrive1493 wrote...

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

thats a strawman! are you the wizard?

[masster blaster]

Lord Goose wrote...

Considering they have indoctrinated agents, how could they not know?

They didn't know about Ilos either. They are not all-knowing.

Hell, the fact the breath scene is still there could be prove of IT all by itself. But its not alone.

After Destroy it is unclear, that happened to Shepard. Catalyst line is ambigous (as it was before), and we see that LI hesistates to put his/her name on memorial wall. And breath scene is an answer to that.

Where is no such questions, both important, and easy-to-answer in other two endings. So, it is good answer, given in form of extra.

Putting aside feelings, how this is not an explanation?

Um they did because Saren was  AT ILLOS and how the hell did Sovrgien even know about Illos in the First  PLACE.

They KNEW ABOUT THE CRUCIBLE AND THE PROTHEIN BECAONS AND YA I bet they new about Illos and Liaras plain because They are all knowing.

[Tirian Thorn]

Overdrive1493 wrote...

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

I'll say it again:

Let us have our fanfaction. 

Does it really impact your fun that we believe differently? 

[byne]

Overdrive1493 wrote...

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

Are... are you honestly trying to argue that no game in history has charged for a real ending?

I can think of two, right off the bat: Asura's Wrath and Fallout 3.

[Xavendithas]

Overdrive1493 wrote...

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

One could argue that the Arrival DLC for Mass Effect 2 was the 'real' ending for that game. Or at the very least, that you payed for an Epilogue.

[senshi420]

byne wrote...

Overdrive1493 wrote...

Amidst all the arguing and illogical complication, this fact remains:

IT simply cannot be true, because if that were the case, if all the evidence adds up, if we've got an undeniable theory that 100% has to be true here...

We've got a game with no ending.

Neither Bioware or EA are that stupid to think that people are going to pay for a real ending. Then again, the weeping idiots around here saying they're willing to throw $20 down a drain for digital images to gain "closure" might be the target audience for that.

EA are greedy bastards. If they really wanted to, they could feed off this IT and charge for a real ending, but it's just too much of a risk for them. Not one game in history has done that before. There is no way it was planned from the start.

Are... are you honestly trying to argue that no game in history has charged for a real ending?

I can think of two, right off the bat: Asura's Wrath and Fallout 3.

FFXII-2, about a billion MMORGs

[BatmanTurian]

HellishFiend wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

LT123 wrote...

@BatmanTurian

Thanks for your long post.

That made a lot of sense, especially the bits about the Hero's Journey.

Destroy is the only choice that makes any sense thematically.

Thank you for your confirmation that someone read it. I thought maybe it might get lost in all of this illogical arguing.

I read it too BT. It's a good post. I just hope that BW isnt going to leave the ending up to interpretation forever. I not only want and expect an answer eventually, but I also expect them to fulfill their other promises such as Rachni being involved in the ending and seeing your war assets take part. 

Well, I looked at the ending objectively and these are the conclusions I came up with. They make logical sense to me but if others feel I am wrong, I'm willing to debate or talk about it.

[Lord Goose]

Except, if you killed the rachni queen in ME1, and saved the fake rachni queen in ME3, the Reapers have verifiably had indoctrinated agents working on the Crucible, yet he still acts like he didnt know about it.

Two possible explanation.

1. Rachni Breeder is not indoctrinated. She is just insane. Why I think so? She is nearly identical to real Rachni Queen. Like real Queen she is kept on Uttuku, chained by Reaper's technology. Like real one she is tormented by sound of "machines". Like real Queen she feels that her "children" are silent. But her psyche is clearly less stable. She call herself monster (self-esteem issues), her promises to "fight the machines" are hysterical etc. So, I guess, it is plausible, that she just went berserk on the Crucible and was killed.

2. Reapers may not consider Crucible to be real threat for them. Without Catalyst it is essentially useless for races of the galaxy, and where is no real chance, that this machine would even work.

That quote would fit whether IT or the literal endings were their intention. It doesnt prove anything one way or another.

But according to IT, we have no ending at all. I mean, Shepard wakes up in the rubble, but the Reapers are still here, and something must be done to defeat them. Essentially, IT requires new ending, to see how Shepard stopped the Reapers. Or we have game with no ending at all.