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[Icinix]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Right so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a 30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the actual issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Or the original endings before the sligth changes?  Speculations at full power!

That really, really does. Very nice catch - there are some other lines in the song as well - such as "An' you know what they said? Well, some of it was true!" that are nice.

Oooh. SPECULATION!

[Icinix]

paxxton wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

paxxton wrote...

*snip*
Javik killed his crewmates. BioWare wouldn't incorporate slaughtering the Normandy's crew in EC.
 
On the other hand, if Shepard is indoctrinated...

Man, if they did that they'd have an even bigger fan backlash they do now I bet. Chaos.

Agreed. It'd be gruesome. Anyway, they would definately get "a memorable ending that everyone is talking about after the fact." Literally everyone.

Wouldn't be the first time you had to slaughter your squad. I remember having to kill a lot of my beloved allies in KOTOR and three of them in DAO.

[prettz]

was looking at the endings and noticed something odd, (has this been talk about?)

first in the destroy good ending the soldiers are cheering raising there guns up to the sky
in the destroy bad ending the soldiers look on the city,now in complete ruins with no cheering
In Control good ending the soldiers are cheering raising there guns up to the sky
In Control bad ending the soldiers look on the city,now in complete ruins with no cheering

Now hears the thing, in synthesis it's touted as a good ending but the soldiers don't cheer but this time the city is not in ruins. they just stair off the same way they looked at a devastated city. do you think this has any symbolism?

destroy good

destroy bad (had to rip from youtube)

control good

control bad (rip from youtube)

synthesis

[Uncle Jo]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.

Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.

He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.

Right, but if our theory that the Crucible is a reaper trap is correct, then it stands to reason that anyone involved with it is more subject to indoctrination. 

The problem with the Crucible/Reaper trap theory (which I like and support) is that there is then no way to win against the Reapers...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

If Shep would do what Javik says he would end up with a pretty small army at the end. His imperialism is actually very well suited for the Reapers. Think of it, TIM and Saren both were strongly committed to their respective species and were transformed into quite useful tools. And with the ability to read and convey thoughts through touch he is a perfect agent in this cycle.

Alsohe is that important that even the VI on Thessia knows of him... soundslike a prime target for indoctrination. Also just look at the flashbacks, he is standing right under a Reaper most of the time, intermittent by a squadmate flung around, Collectors, closeups of him looking distressed always followed by the Reaper.

IMO nothing in Javik's behavior leads us to think that he's indoctrinated. His attitude about the Reapers never changes along the game. He's absolutely uncompromising, even more than Shep : a good Reaper is a dead Reaper seems to be his message. The war with the Geth equivalent in his cycle made him also a fierce anti-synthetic.
BTW what is the square root of 912,04 ?^^

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 20 mai 2012 - 12:51 .

[Daryslash]

Alright, this is a dialogue I got 5 minutes ago while playing Mass Effect 1 again.
I don't know if people already mentioned this, but it doesn't hurt to share.
I've got to say, this was a big surprise for me. Some days ago, in the previous thread, I was questioning the relevance of James asking about the hum on the Normandy. Some people might remember I was against the possibility of it having something to do with the IT (reluctantly so, actually).
Well, I kind of completely changed my opinion right about a few minutes ago, because of Kaidan.
I talked to him while passing by the Conduit on the citadel (the other end of it, from which you "teleport" back to the citadel from Ilos). That's what he said: "Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle."
Picture following. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the statue on it. Kaidan got me by surprise, I took the screenshot in a hurry. The statue is right in front of Shepard.
That's some strong evidence towards the IT right there, I think.

desmond.imageshack.us/Himg33/scaled.php

(I never posted any images on this forum, I'm not sure how to do it)

Modifié par Daryslash, 20 mai 2012 - 12:58 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Uncle Jo wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.

Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.

He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.

Right, but if our theory that the Crucible is a reaper trap is correct, then it stands to reason that anyone involved with it is more subject to indoctrination. 

The problem with the Crucible/Reaper trap theory (which I like and support) is that there is then no way to win against the Reapers...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

If Shep would do what Javik says he
would end up with a pretty small army at the end. His imperialism is
actually very well suited for the Reapers. Think of it, TIM and Saren
both were strongly committed to their respective species and were
transformed into quite useful tools.
And with the ability to read and convey thoughts through touch he is a perfect agent in this cycle.

Alsohe is that important that even the VI on Thessia knows of him... soundslike a prime target for indoctrination. Also just look at the flashbacks, he is standing right under a Reaper most of the time, intermittent by a squadmate flung around, Collectors, closeups of him looking distressed always followed by the Reaper.

IMO nothing in Javik's behavior leads us to think that he's indoctrinated. His attitude about the Reapers never changes along the game. He's absolutely uncompromising, even more than Shep : a good Reaper is a deadReaper seems to be his message. The war with the Geth equivalent in hiscycle made him also a fierce anti-synthetic.
BTW what is the square root of 912,04 ?^^

That's the perfect thing for a sleeper agent

30.2

prettz wrote...

was looking at the endings and noticed something odd, (has this been talk about?)

first in the destroy good ending the soldiers are cheering raising there guns up to the sky
in the destroy bad ending the soldiers look on the city,now in complete ruins with no cheering
In Control good ending the soldiers are cheering raising there guns up to the sky
In Control bad ending the soldiers look on the city,now in complete ruins with no cheering

Now hears the thing, in synthesis it's touted as a good ending but the soldiers don't cheer but this time the city is not in ruins. they just stair off the same way they looked at a devastated city. do you think this has any symbolism?

I did write about it in the old thread. If you say all 7 videos were symbols they are in fact pretty easy to explain.
If you assume Red is Shep breaks free they would just see how the battle turns out with the EMS you've got.
Blue = Shep's a husk or something similar is about the same.
and Green = Shep's indoctrinated and a Reaper agent subverting the Alliance.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 20 mai 2012 - 12:54 .

[RealStyli]

Daryslash wrote...

Alright, this is a dialogue I got 5 minutes ago while playing Mass Effect 1 again.
I don't know if people already mentioned this, but it doesn't hurt to share.
I've got to say, this was a big surprise for me. Some days ago, in the previous thread, I was questioning the relevance of James asking about the hum on the Normandy. Some people might remember I was against the possibility of it having something to do with the IT (reluctantly so, actually).
Well, I kind of completely changed my opinion right about a few minutes ago, because of Kaidan.
I talked to him while passing by the Conduit on the citadel (the other end of it, from which you "teleport" back to the citadel from Ilos). That's what he said: "Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle."
Picture following. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the statue on it. Kaiden got me by surprise, I took the screenshot in a hurry. The statue is right in front of Shepard.
That's some strong evidence towards the IT right there, I think.

desmond.imageshack.us/Himg33/scaled.php

(I never posted any images on this forum, I'm not sure how to do it)

Nice find. I vaguely remember that now from one of my ME1 playthroughs. Until you posted this, I wasn't convinced by the James Vega evidence either.

[paxxton]

prettz wrote...

was looking at the endings and noticed something odd, (has this been talk about?)

first in the destroy good ending the soldiers are cheering raising there guns up to the sky
in the destroy bad ending the soldiers look on the city,now in complete ruins with no cheering
In Control good ending the soldiers are cheering raising there guns up to the sky
In Control bad ending the soldiers look on the city,now in complete ruins with no cheering

Now hears the thing, in synthesis it's touted as a good ending but the soldiers don't cheer but this time the city is not in ruins. they just stair off the same way they looked at a devastated city. do you think this has any symbolism?
 

This might be because after Synthesis Organics are deprived of emotions as a result of becoming one with the machines.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 01:21 .

[prettz]

MegumiAzusa wrote...


I did write about it in the old thread. If you say all 7 videos were symbols they are in fact pretty easy to explain.
If you assume Red is Shep breaks free they would just see how the battle turns out with the EMS you've got.
Blue = Shep's a husk or something similar is about the same.
and Green = Shep's indoctrinated and a Reaper agent subverting the Alliance.

not talking about the whole ending just the one part with the soldiers and them reacting to synthesis in a negative way. probably having a WTF moment

RealStyli wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

Alright, this is a dialogue I got 5 minutes ago while playing Mass Effect 1 again.
I don't know if people already mentioned this, but it doesn't hurt to share.
I've
got to say, this was a big surprise for me. Some days ago, in the
previous thread, I was questioning the relevance of James asking about
the hum on the Normandy. Some people might remember I was against the
possibility of it having something to do with the IT (reluctantly so,
actually).
Well, I kind of completely changed my opinion right about a few minutes ago, because of Kaidan.
I
talked to him while passing by the Conduit on the citadel (the other
end of it, from which you "teleport" back to the citadel from Ilos).
That's what he said: "Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's
coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle."
Picture following.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the statue on it. Kaiden got me by
surprise, I took the screenshot in a hurry. The statue is right in front
of Shepard.
That's some strong evidence towards the IT right there, I think.

desmond.imageshack.us/Himg33/scaled.php

(I never posted any images on this forum, I'm not sure how to do it)

Nice
find. I vaguely remember that now from one of my ME1 playthroughs.
Until you posted this, I wasn't convinced by the James Vega evidence
either.

I was hearing the hum and was wondering what it was then james ask about it too. was thinking something was up after that but the thing I found the most creepy on the Normandy was the laughing  always come from just down the hall out of sight.

Modifié par prettz, 20 mai 2012 - 01:13 .

[MegumiAzusa]

prettz wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


I did write about it in the old thread. If you say all 7 videos were symbols they are in fact pretty easy to explain.
If you assume Red is Shep breaks free they would just see how the battle turns out with the EMS you've got.
Blue = Shep's a husk or something similar is about the same.
and Green = Shep's indoctrinated and a Reaper agent subverting the Alliance.

not talking about the whole ending just the one part with the soldiers and them reacting to synthesis in a negative way.

I know, doesn't change my assumptions.

[Rifneno]

Bill Casey wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Still, did any of us ever come up with anything Javik-related as evidence for IT? I cant recall anything.

I'd like to add though, if you recruit Javik late in the game he doesn't say that. I don't recall his exact wording but it was along the lines of "I sense confidence in you. More than I except from one battling the Reapers. You believe you are winning." I think this is based on your EMS at the time.

liggy002 wrote...

Also, I might add here that just because it is a physical battle does not mean that it doesn't require brains to execute succesfully. I have ran across some rather thoughtful boss battles such as the one against the Kayran in TW2.

Kayran was pretty epic. I was pretty disappointed in the rest of the bosses (except for the last one for obvious reasons) after that. Some people called it a God of War ripoff, and after playing GoW I definitely get it. It was strikingly similar to GoW2's Kraken fight. Still, it was enjoyable enough that I don't mind.
The Draug should have been given a more epic appearance to match his difficulty IMO. That battle is tough as nails if you're not on a low difficulty. It was the only fight I had to resort to a time dither to beat on dark mode. Though in fairness, I had put quite a few points into alchemy and I wasn't allowed to use it for some stupid reason, and the autosave puts you at a point where it's near impossible to dodge the first blow. Which hits like a ton of bricks on dark.

Great game though, no? There's a game that really brings the "choices matter" thing to life. Half the game is completely different based on one choice.

MegumiAzusa wrote...

In DAO it was fabulous where you had to think which of the up to six answers is the best. There were about two occurences where the answer bottom right was "better", for for example saving Kelly. But was it really? I mean having her shot by Cerberus is pretty bad, but if the Citadel was indeed captured by the Reapers she gets to experience what gives her nightmares all over again.

Yes, it was really. It's not up to us to judge what's too much for Kelly to endure. All we can do is give her the best chance at life we can. As horrible as this sounds, if it's too much for her she's free to end her own suffering. But at least the decision is hers.

Uncle Jo wrote...

The problem with the Crucible/Reaper trap theory (which I like and support) is that there is then no way to win against the Reapers...

A few idea have been tossed around. Only one I remember is my own which came from a chekhov's gun or red herring (depending on whether it's used) in the codex. They talked about how if they could hack through the built-in safety features on mass effect engine (Reaper design, Reaper 'safety' feature) that checks to make sure there's no obstacles in the way, a single ship going at FTL could kamakazi into a Reaper and do enough damage to obliterate even a capital ship. Thing is, Cerberus Daily News had a big story during ME2 about the turians fighting a terrorist separatist group who did hack it and used a single ship to blow up a planet's capital. All we need to do is find turian al-qaeda's old notes and we're good to go.

[HellishFiend]

RealStyli wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

Alright, this is a dialogue I got 5 minutes ago while playing Mass Effect 1 again.
I don't know if people already mentioned this, but it doesn't hurt to share.
I've got to say, this was a big surprise for me. Some days ago, in the previous thread, I was questioning the relevance of James asking about the hum on the Normandy. Some people might remember I was against the possibility of it having something to do with the IT (reluctantly so, actually).
Well, I kind of completely changed my opinion right about a few minutes ago, because of Kaidan.
I talked to him while passing by the Conduit on the citadel (the other end of it, from which you "teleport" back to the citadel from Ilos). That's what he said: "Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle."
Picture following. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the statue on it. Kaiden got me by surprise, I took the screenshot in a hurry. The statue is right in front of Shepard.
That's some strong evidence towards the IT right there, I think.

desmond.imageshack.us/Himg33/scaled.php

(I never posted any images on this forum, I'm not sure how to do it)

Nice find. I vaguely remember that now from one of my ME1 playthroughs. Until you posted this, I wasn't convinced by the James Vega evidence either.

While I would love for that to be a clue towards IT, I dont think it is. I think it's just alluding to the fact that it's the conduit relay, nothing more. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 20 mai 2012 - 01:20 .

[Dryball]

The fact that after all the hype, all the glamour and words of praise, and the glimpses of the "final" story of Shepard....culminates in what feels to be a 6th grader's writing assignment...is mind-blowing at the minimum. It's as if they had the writer's go on vacation and some kids literally come and finish it out. Where's the answers to any of our questions? I just have tons more. Where's the sense of closure where we either choose to live "happily ever after," or go out in a blaze of glory, or just let it burn? Instead I see this contrived nonsense that looks to be thrown together in no more than thirty minutes of actual work. (that's the part in the 6th grader's paper where you shake your head because they had a flowing decent, not great, narrative followed by, "and then they died, The End...")

Really? That's it? That's the best that my personal $200+ could come up with when added to the other millions of buyer's $200 in franchise purchases? I think we would been better off buying hundreds of seeded timeshares or property and plane tickets so we could all run around the globe collectively...even with the guaranteed bickering to occur.

I was cheated. Plain and simple. Unless I see some massive about face and the plausible "indoctrination theory" comes into being reality...I was duped by a bunch a 6th grade writers at Bioware into buying something for no reason at all other than it being called "Mass Effect 3." When in reality it's simply a FPS crap clone that uses ME2 characters... I own COD...if I wanted to run around shooting people in the face and TBing them I'd play it, NOT the ME series. COD and BF have been in that genre long enough to have it nailed... I got the ME series for itself and the fact that I don't need to put up with PWNZR to play...

I sure hope the current endings are some kind of sick joke by Bioware...I could forgive THAT.

I hope all of you guys are right about the IT.

[HellishFiend]

Rifneno wrote...

I'd like to add though, if you recruit Javik late in the game he doesn't say that. I don't recall his exact wording but it was along the lines of "I sense confidence in you. More than I except from one battling the Reapers. You believe you are winning." I think this is based on your EMS at the time.

That actually could be interpreted as a sign that EMS is more just a representation of Shepard's belief/willpower/confidence than an actual military power number. 

Normally it would be a stretch to believe that, but when you also consider the +1000 EMS you get towards the breath scene from saving Anderson.....

[Rifneno]

Dryball wrote...

The fact that after all the hype, all the glamour and words of praise, and the glimpses of the "final" story of Shepard....culminates in what feels to be a 6th grader's writing assignment...is mind-blowing at the minimum. It's as if they had the writer's go on vacation and some kids literally come and finish it out. Where's the answers to any of our questions? I just have tons more. Where's the sense of closure where we either choose to live "happily ever after," or go out in a blaze of glory, or just let it burn? Instead I see this contrived nonsense that looks to be thrown together in no more than thirty minutes of actual work. (that's the part in the 6th grader's paper where you shake your head because they had a flowing decent, not great, narrative followed by, "and then they died, The End...")

Really? That's it? That's the best that my personal $200+ could come up with when added to the other millions of buyer's $200 in franchise purchases? I think we would been better off buying hundreds of seeded timeshares or property and plane tickets so we could all run around the globe collectively...even with the guaranteed bickering to occur.

I was cheated. Plain and simple. Unless I see some massive about face and the plausible "indoctrination theory" comes into being reality...I was duped by a bunch a 6th grade writers at Bioware into buying something for no reason at all other than it being called "Mass Effect 3." When in reality it's simply a FPS crap clone that uses ME2 characters... I own COD...if I wanted to run around shooting people in the face and TBing them I'd play it, NOT the ME series. COD and BF have been in that genre long enough to have it nailed... I got the ME series for itself and the fact that I don't need to put up with PWNZR to play...

I sure hope the current endings are some kind of sick joke by Bioware...I could forgive THAT.

I hope all of you guys are right about the IT.

That's the thing though.  The writing only sucked quad in the last 15 minutes.  The rest of the game was truly incredible.  Mordin's sacrifice may be the best written death I've ever seen.  The genophage and quarian/geth storylines were breathtaking.  It wasn't the work of amateurs.
As someone said yesterday, the ending is too surreal not to be done on purpose.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I'd like to add though, if you recruit Javik late in the game he doesn't say that. I don't recall his exact wording but it was along the lines of "I sense confidence in you. More than I except from one battling the Reapers. You believe you are winning." I think this is based on your EMS at the time.

That actually could be interpreted as a sign that EMS is more just a representation of Shepard's belief/willpower/confidence than an actual military power number. 

Normally it would be a stretch to believe that, but when you also consider the +1000 EMS you get towards the breath scene from saving Anderson.....

But look that he says that Shepard believes that he is winning. That would support the idea that the higher EMS, the worse. It basically says that the more forces you gather for the final battle, the easier it is for the Reapers to crush the resistance in other parts of the Galaxy. So Shepard actually does what the Reapers want him to do.

EDIT: It can also mean nothing.  Just that Javik senses his state of mind.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 01:38 .

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

But look that he says that Shepard believes that he is winning. That would support the idea that the higher EMS, the worse. It basically says that the more forces you gather for the final battle, the easier it is for the Reapers to crush the resistance in other parts of the Galaxy. So Shepard actually does what the Reapers want him to do.

EDIT: It can also mean nothing.  Just that Javik senses his state of mind.

My interpretation was just that he senses what Shepard feels but vocalizes the "believes" part because, being the elitist douchenozzle that he is, he doesn't believe these silly 'primitives' actually have any chance.

[Dryball]

By my count Shepard alone with a small team killed 6 reapers over the course of the series plus a collective of Indoctrinated Protheans. So you would think the full brunt of the galatic wrath should have some effect...lol

Not saying, just saying is all

Modifié par Dryball, 20 mai 2012 - 01:45 .

[DJBare]

HellishFiend wrote...

While I would love for that to be a clue towards IT, I dont think it is. I think it's just alluding to the fact that it's the conduit relay, nothing more. 

And I'll maintain the relays are more than transit devices like the citadel, the council were always too willing to dismiss Shepards claim in my opinion, with slow subtle indoctrination the council could be convinced the reapers are nothing but a myth "ahh reapers, we have dismissed this claim"; Anderson says there was barely anything left of the soveriegn wreckage, yet we saw huge chunks blown off it, and I don't buy the scavenger story, the Alliance would have been the first on the scene considering those that survived were already there, any piece of Sovereign would have shown it was not geth technology.

Sorry, went off on a slight tangent there, it just got me thinking the council have been in close proximity to reaper tech right from the beginning.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Still, did any of us ever come up with anything Javik-related as evidence for IT? I cant recall anything.

I'd like to add though, if you recruit Javik late in the game he doesn't say that. I don't recall his exact wording but it was along the lines of "I sense confidence in you. More than I except from one battling the Reapers. You believe you are winning." I think this is based on your EMS at the time.

I always found it interesting that when you recruit Javik, if you have more paragon than renegade, but pick a certain renegade option during one part of the first conversation with him (dont remember exactly which one), Shep will say the goal of everyone aboard the ship is to destroy the Reapers. Javik then tells you he can tell you're lying because lying leaves a biological marker or something like that.

Thats like one of the only times I can ever remember where renegade dialogue changes based on your paragon score, and I find it odd that its when Shep is claiming destroying the Reapers is her main goal.

Had paragon Shep said something like 'No matter what we have to sacrifice, we'll destroy the Reapers,' then it would have made some sense, as it wouldnt fit with the paragon mindset as well, but she doesnt. She just says its the goal of everyone on the ship to destroy the Reapers.

Kinda interesting how people just assume control is the paragon option because its the blue one, and if you have high paragon, Javik wont believe destroy is what you'd actually choose.

[HellishFiend]

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

While I would love for that to be a clue towards IT, I dont think it is. I think it's just alluding to the fact that it's the conduit relay, nothing more. 

And I'll maintain the relays are more than transit devices like the citadel, the council were always too willing to dismiss Shepards claim in my opinion, with slow subtle indoctrination the council could be convinced the reapers are nothing but a myth "ahh reapers, we have dismissed this claim"; Anderson says there was barely anything left of the soveriegn wreckage, yet we saw huge chunks blown off it, and I don't buy the scavenger story, the Alliance would have been the first on the scene considering those that survived were already there, any piece of Sovereign would have shown it was not geth technology.

Sorry, went off on a slight tangent there, it just got me thinking the council have been in close proximity to reaper tech right from the beginning.

 

I'll accept that possibility. I too think the Citadel has some kind of pacifying effect. It's just difficult to accept the ME1 hum as a direct clue towards IT, is all.  

[blooregard]

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

and the next one is this:

What is this? It's a crab.

What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the third

So what might this mean?

Idk, maybe that the Reapers tried to indoctrinate Javik and he doesn't realize it?

I find it incredibly intriguing that everyone could be intoctrinated. Trust no one!

Javik? Indoctrinated? I would never see that shiet coming

Javik would troll the Reapers into thinking they indoctrinated him then he'd throw them out the airlock 

[HellishFiend]

byne wrote...

I always found it interesting that when you recruit Javik, if you have more paragon than renegade, but pick a certain renegade option during one part of the first conversation with him (dont remember exactly which one), Shep will say the goal of everyone aboard the ship is to destroy the Reapers. Javik then tells you he can tell you're lying because lying leaves a biological marker or something like that.

Thats like one of the only times I can ever remember where renegade dialogue changes based on your paragon score, and I find it odd that its when Shep is claiming destroying the Reapers is her main goal.

Had paragon Shep said something like 'No matter what we have to sacrifice, we'll destroy the Reapers,' then it would have made some sense, as it wouldnt fit with the paragon mindset as well, but she doesnt. She just says its the goal of everyone on the ship to destroy the Reapers.

Kinda interesting how people just assume control is the paragon option because its the blue one, and if you have high paragon, Javik wont believe destroy is what you'd actually choose.

I wish there were more instances of characters "calling you out" like that. I think it's a great personalized touch. 

[HellishFiend]

blooregard wrote...



Javik would troll the Reapers into thinking they indoctrinated him then he'd throw them out the airlock 

Or perhaps the Reaper's purpose for Javik was to continuously heave things out of airlocks until there was nothing left to resist the reapers. 

*mind blown* 

[lex0r11]

paxxton wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Hey guys, long time no see.
Just checking the new thread, love what you've done with the place.


I'll be back once I have anything useful to say or my Photobucket account is unlocked again.

*wave*

Oh no! Your photobucket account got locked! That's like taking a fish out of water!

Looks like these are really dark times.

On a sidenote: hello (again) to all you old and new inhabitants of the IT threads.

Wow, haven't seen you for a while!  Welcome back!:happy:

Hi there!
Wow! You've exceeded a 10GB limit with pictures? How did you manage that?
Change formats and use stronger compression.

I think the file size wasn't the problem, one of my uploads turned up on some Brazilian news site.
And that's just one of the "peculiar" sites listed on my stats. People have been using my gallery way too much!

*denies any responsibility*

Sorry for off-topic