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[Taco Del Marr]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

I just trolled the community big time - hope you enjoy: 
http://imgur.com/a/Ylw9X#0

this just made my day

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

I didn't even know there was a difference between Renegade and Paragon! That makes EC a little better.
I have to admit, the new Control ending is pretty badass. Maybe I like it better than Destroy now.

Also, seeing Kaidan put up the plaque caught me really off guard. I romanced him and.. well..

I dislike both control and synthesis even more now.

Control makes it 100% clear that whatever is controlling the Reapers is no longer Shepard, nor does it think of itself as Shepard. I am not ok with giving control to that thing.

Synthesis just makes it even more clear what an abomination the idea is. Like when the husk gets synthesized, and gets a weird look on its face. Its like being synthesized has allowed it to realize what has happened to it, and given it the cognitive ability to be horrified by it.

So you deny the Husk sentience, self-improvement, understanding of what he is?? I don't.

The husk is better off dead than knowing what it is. What being could carry on with their lives in a healthy way after the horror of becoming that?

I see his face expression completely differently. He was amazed because he could finally comprehend his surroundings, has become free like the geth with the Reaper upgrades. It's like when you learn something and then is this moment when a spark of enlightenment goes through your brain and you start to understand the world around you.

[EpyonX3]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

I just trolled the community big time - hope you enjoy: 
http://imgur.com/a/Ylw9X#0

That was clever!

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

I didn't even know there was a difference between Renegade and Paragon! That makes EC a little better.
I have to admit, the new Control ending is pretty badass. Maybe I like it better than Destroy now.

Also, seeing Kaidan put up the plaque caught me really off guard. I romanced him and.. well..

I dislike both control and synthesis even more now.

Control makes it 100% clear that whatever is controlling the Reapers is no longer Shepard, nor does it think of itself as Shepard. I am not ok with giving control to that thing.

Synthesis just makes it even more clear what an abomination the idea is. Like when the husk gets synthesized, and gets a weird look on its face. Its like being synthesized has allowed it to realize what has happened to it, and given it the cognitive ability to be horrified by it.

So you deny the Husk sentience, self-improvement, understanding of what he is?? I don't.

You know what? I'm not getting into this crap with you again Paxxton. You can keep your control and synthesis endings and have sweet dreams about being a god and forcing people into line, or being a god and altering their DNA, but not me. I have principles.

this

[TJBartlemus]

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I know I said that I was going to take a break, but I had a thought. Remember how people were SO upset that there was only ONE way to break free of indoctrination while there were TWO ways to succumb to it? Well, maybe Rejection was added as a second way of breaking free. That way, two unindoctrinated endings, and two indoctrinated endings. Any thoughts?

Well I feel Desroy was the best one of all of them, because it gave everyone hope to choose their lives. In Synthesis or Control you impose those decisions on the rest of the galaxy. Reject I feel is counter productive. Cause Michael Gamble replied that the next cycle uses the crucible anyway, so what was the point of refusing it??

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

I didn't even know there was a difference between Renegade and Paragon! That makes EC a little better.
I have to admit, the new Control ending is pretty badass. Maybe I like it better than Destroy now.

Also, seeing Kaidan put up the plaque caught me really off guard. I romanced him and.. well..

I dislike both control and synthesis even more now.

Control makes it 100% clear that whatever is controlling the Reapers is no longer Shepard, nor does it think of itself as Shepard. I am not ok with giving control to that thing.

Synthesis just makes it even more clear what an abomination the idea is. Like when the husk gets synthesized, and gets a weird look on its face. Its like being synthesized has allowed it to realize what has happened to it, and given it the cognitive ability to be horrified by it.

So you deny the Husk sentience, self-improvement, understanding of what he is?? I don't.

The husk is better off dead than knowing what it is. What being could carry on with their lives in a healthy way after the horror of becoming that?

I see his face expression completely differently. He was amazed because he could finally comprehend his surroundings, has become free like the geth with the Reaper upgrades. It's like when you learn something and then is this moment when a spark of enlightenment goes through your brain and you start to understand the world around you.

I don't think you understand. A husk is a zombie with machine parts. A husk will be a pariah no matter where it goes.

[paxxton]

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

I didn't even know there was a difference between Renegade and Paragon! That makes EC a little better.
I have to admit, the new Control ending is pretty badass. Maybe I like it better than Destroy now.

 Control Rules!

I feel those who choose Control are hypocrites because then what was the point of opposing TIM??

The game left Shepard no choice.  

[suprarj]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

I'll say it again:

Let us have our fanfaction. 

Does it really impact your fun that we believe differently? 

As long as you admit that it's fan fiction, I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.  My issue with the IT crowd was always that it contradicted the facts that were on the screen and had a religious zealot type following (i.e. "How do you know that he's really in the Citadel?")  I choose to look at what is on the screen and accept that.  I have no problem with you doing otherwise as long as you freely admit that's what you're doing.  By saying that your version is still correct with now an entire DLC to prove otherwise, you insult those who choose to accept what was on the screen.

To me, IT is similar to that guy who wrote a novel-length blog post about the endings of the Sopranos to "prove" that Tony died.  Sure, there are some interesting connections/imagery and it's fun to overanalyze.  However, the EC was the equivalent of David Chase saying "Tony lives."

[masster blaster]

Um I know this is old but didn't the run to the Conduit reminded you of Illos.

Edit  ME3 EC:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlFF3C6kEo#t=03m13s
you may have to rewind it a bit but you will see my point.

ME1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeMKLDdNqj0#t=01m11s

Modifié par masster blaster, 27 juin 2012 - 08:12 .

[Andromidius]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Trollgunner wrote...

But he is an AI! How he can become this pissed so easily?  For example do you remember EDI  yelling at some one, or talking in different voice? 

He is as much an AI as Shep's an animal And if he spoke with his "normal" voice would you have trusted him ? 

Yeah, I found that line to be...very passive-aggressive.

Infact, nearly all the new dialogue is.  Almost like its impatient with us, and annoyed that we need more information.

For a billions year old machine...  Its not got much patience.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

I didn't even know there was a difference between Renegade and Paragon! That makes EC a little better.
I have to admit, the new Control ending is pretty badass. Maybe I like it better than Destroy now.

Also, seeing Kaidan put up the plaque caught me really off guard. I romanced him and.. well..

I dislike both control and synthesis even more now.

Control makes it 100% clear that whatever is controlling the Reapers is no longer Shepard, nor does it think of itself as Shepard. I am not ok with giving control to that thing.

Synthesis just makes it even more clear what an abomination the idea is. Like when the husk gets synthesized, and gets a weird look on its face. Its like being synthesized has allowed it to realize what has happened to it, and given it the cognitive ability to be horrified by it.

So you deny the Husk sentience, self-improvement, understanding of what he is?? I don't.

You know what? I'm not getting into this crap with you again Paxxton. You can keep your control and synthesis endings and have sweet dreams about being a god and forcing people into line, or being a god and altering their DNA, but not me. I have principles.

That was really creepy ending. Sounded like foreshadowing to me. Maleshep sounds epic. Femshep sounds creepy. Shepard would make an awesome villain lol.

[SubAstris]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I know I said that I was going to take a break, but I had a thought. Remember how people were SO upset that there was only ONE way to break free of indoctrination while there were TWO ways to succumb to it? Well, maybe Rejection was added as a second way of breaking free. That way, two unindoctrinated endings, and two indoctrinated endings. Any thoughts?

Well I feel Desroy was the best one of all of them, because it gave everyone hope to choose their lives. In Synthesis or Control you impose those decisions on the rest of the galaxy. Reject I feel is counter productive. Cause Michael Gamble replied that the next cycle uses the crucible anyway, so what was the point of refusing it??

On a separate point, doesn't this imply that the Crucible wasn't a Reaper device and the Catalyst was right?

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

I didn't even know there was a difference between Renegade and Paragon! That makes EC a little better.
I have to admit, the new Control ending is pretty badass. Maybe I like it better than Destroy now.

Also, seeing Kaidan put up the plaque caught me really off guard. I romanced him and.. well..

I dislike both control and synthesis even more now.

Control makes it 100% clear that whatever is controlling the Reapers is no longer Shepard, nor does it think of itself as Shepard. I am not ok with giving control to that thing.

Synthesis just makes it even more clear what an abomination the idea is. Like when the husk gets synthesized, and gets a weird look on its face. Its like being synthesized has allowed it to realize what has happened to it, and given it the cognitive ability to be horrified by it.

So you deny the Husk sentience, self-improvement, understanding of what he is?? I don't.

You know what? I'm not getting into this crap with you again Paxxton. You can keep your control and synthesis endings and have sweet dreams about being a god and forcing people into line, or being a god and altering their DNA, but not me. I have principles.

I also have principles. Even in RL war changes everything and the world after is much different than before. There are no status quo solutions during the war.

Modifié par paxxton, 27 juin 2012 - 07:16 .

[BatmanTurian]

suprarj wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

I'll say it again:

Let us have our fanfaction. 

Does it really impact your fun that we believe differently? 

As long as you admit that it's fan fiction, I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.  My issue with the IT crowd was always that it contradicted the facts that were on the screen and had a religious zealot type following (i.e. "How do you know that he's really in the Citadel?")  I choose to look at what is on the screen and accept that.  I have no problem with you doing otherwise as long as you freely admit that's what you're doing.  By saying that your version is still correct with now an entire DLC to prove otherwise, you insult those who choose to accept what was on the screen.

To me, IT is similar to that guy who wrote a novel-length blog post about the endings of the Sopranos to "prove" that Tony died.  Sure, there are some interesting connections/imagery and it's fun to overanalyze.  However, the EC was the equivalent of David Chase saying "Tony lives."

okay, we get it. shut up. you're being counter-productive and just repeating yourself now.

[masster blaster]

BatmanTurian wrote...

senshi420 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

You know what bothers me the Refuse ending. In some case's it supports It but in others it does not but my question is HOW did Liara say the Crucible dent even work IF everyone died? and if She already sent the time Capsule then how did she add the Crucible did not work, and if you ask me the other cycle beat the Reapers then please Bioware can care to tell us HOW THE HELL DID THEY DO IT. Even with the galaxy united and with all the upgrades that are in the Time Capsule we still did not even make a dent in the Reaper forces and WE all know for a fact that the Reapers on Earth/in the Sol system were not all of the Reapers forces but only the tip of the Spear.

 edited for correctness and underlined, italic and bold for GOOD FREAKING POINT!!!!

see my post above.

ya but she was acting come and this had to be during the battle so ?

[BatmanTurian]

SubAstris wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I know I said that I was going to take a break, but I had a thought. Remember how people were SO upset that there was only ONE way to break free of indoctrination while there were TWO ways to succumb to it? Well, maybe Rejection was added as a second way of breaking free. That way, two unindoctrinated endings, and two indoctrinated endings. Any thoughts?

Well I feel Desroy was the best one of all of them, because it gave everyone hope to choose their lives. In Synthesis or Control you impose those decisions on the rest of the galaxy. Reject I feel is counter productive. Cause Michael Gamble replied that the next cycle uses the crucible anyway, so what was the point of refusing it??

On a separate point, doesn't this imply that the Crucible wasn't a Reaper device and the Catalyst was right?

Yes, the catalyst says itself that it is not a reaper device. The catalyst is not a complete liar but can be said to be slightly manipulative.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

You know what? I'm not getting into this crap with you again Paxxton. You can keep your control and synthesis endings and have sweet dreams about being a god and forcing people into line, or being a god and altering their DNA, but not me. I have principles.

I also have principles. Even in RL war changes everything and the world after is much different than before. There are no status quo solutions during the war.

So basically you have principles, just not in war? That must be convenient.

I personally cant just turn off my principles when it suits my needs.

[BansheeOwnage]

Andromidius wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Trollgunner wrote...

But he is an AI! How he can become this pissed so easily?  For example do you remember EDI  yelling at some one, or talking in different voice? 

He is as much an AI as Shep's an animal And if he spoke with his "normal" voice would you have trusted him ? 

Yeah, I found that line to be...very passive-aggressive.

Infact, nearly all the new dialogue is.  Almost like its impatient with us, and annoyed that we need more information.

For a billions year old machine...  Its not got much patience.

Which is even weirder seeing as how the Reapers have infinite patience

[LT123]

byne wrote...

Huh, I just watched the renegade version of Shep's control monologue.

Pretty damned creepy. All this talk of power, strength, and leading an army no one would dare oppose.

That's terrifying.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

ya but she was acting come and this had to be during the battle so ?

Masster blaster, usually I can manage to understand your posts even with your grammar and spelling errors, but this one just leaves me completely baffled.

What the hell are you trying to say?

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Why is everyone so rude right now
Seriously, let's all calm down

here, this will help:

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Trollgunner wrote...

But he is an AI! How he can become this pissed so easily?  For example do you remember EDI  yelling at some one, or talking in different voice? 

He is as much an AI as Shep's an animal And if he spoke with his "normal" voice would you have trusted him ? 

Yeah, I found that line to be...very passive-aggressive.

Infact, nearly all the new dialogue is.  Almost like its impatient with us, and annoyed that we need more information.

For a billions year old machine...  Its not got much patience.

Which is even weirder seeing as how the Reapers have infinite patience

What I would say to Reapers:

Patience:

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 27 juin 2012 - 07:21 .

[MaximizedAction]

Well...why didn't Bioware go with that in the first place? Rushed original ending?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 27 juin 2012 - 07:22 .

[byne]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Why is everyone so rude right now
Seriously, let's all calm down

here, this will help:

Am I being rude? I sure hope I'm not, because I'm not trying to be.

[SubAstris]

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I know I said that I was going to take a break, but I had a thought. Remember how people were SO upset that there was only ONE way to break free of indoctrination while there were TWO ways to succumb to it? Well, maybe Rejection was added as a second way of breaking free. That way, two unindoctrinated endings, and two indoctrinated endings. Any thoughts?

Well I feel Desroy was the best one of all of them, because it gave everyone hope to choose their lives. In Synthesis or Control you impose those decisions on the rest of the galaxy. Reject I feel is counter productive. Cause Michael Gamble replied that the next cycle uses the crucible anyway, so what was the point of refusing it??

On a separate point, doesn't this imply that the Crucible wasn't a Reaper device and the Catalyst was right?

Yes, the catalyst says itself that it is not a reaper device. The catalyst is not a complete liar but can be said to be slightly manipulative.

I thought Reapers were fully evil, surely they would lie about everything...
But what bits are manipulative?