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[Raistlin Majare 1992]

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Actually I think Shepard uses a Predator when confronting Miranda´s father.

Though funnily enough none of the other Squadmates get a weapon change in that scene.

[M Hedonist]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

  

Just me or that's "The Suicide Mission" on the video? (it's in spanish cause was the only one I found, but I'm from Brazil) 

Completely off topic.
But yes. Probably.

[RavenEyry]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...


Did they never make DA II DLC then? sorry, I didn't play it so not completely sure what you meant :S

They made two, but then cancelled all future ones planned because they didn't sell well enough.

[M Hedonist]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Did they never make DA II DLC then? sorry, I didn't play it so not completely sure what you meant :S

They made two big one-mission DLCs other than the obligatory Day 1 DLC, then announced after a few months that they wouldn't make any more. DAO had much more DLC, for comparison.
That was probably because the game sold less than well, the amount of people who buy DLC is very low generally and the game was received very negatively.

[Robhuzz]

Sauruz wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

  

Just me or that's "The Suicide Mission" on the video? (it's in spanish cause was the only one I found, but I'm from Brazil) 

Completely off topic.
But yes. Probably.

Very offtopic but you were mostly correct. It's parts of 'Crash Landing' from the ME2 soundtrack.

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Nah, balance, it's not. The Predator is the one used in ME3 cutscenes. The Carnifex is only used in one cutscene, or so I've been told. The cutscene in which you shoot Mordin. With the gun he gave you.

Or at least, I remember the Predator being the cutscene pistol and the wiki backs me up, anyone got any evidence that I'm wrong? :S

[NoSpin]

New thread.....let's go for another 2000 before the EC.

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Nah, balance, it's not. The Predator is the one used in ME3 cutscenes. The Carnifex is only used in one cutscene, or so I've been told. The cutscene in which you shoot Mordin. With the gun he gave you.

Or at least, I remember the Predator being the cutscene pistol and the wiki backs me up, anyone got any evidence that I'm wrong? :S

Alright, my fault, I thought the guns had more meaning to them.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Hello everyone just got on and seen you had to make a new thread. What is the current topic with IT in the thread?

[TSA_383]

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Nah, balance, it's not. The Predator is the one used in ME3 cutscenes. The Carnifex is only used in one cutscene, or so I've been told. The cutscene in which you shoot Mordin. With the gun he gave you.

Or at least, I remember the Predator being the cutscene pistol and the wiki backs me up, anyone got any evidence that I'm wrong? :S

Carnifex is used if you shoot mordin, it also makes an appearance when wrex confronts you if you fake the genophage cure, and it is the gun you shoot anderson with. Those are the ones I'm aware of, there may be others - anyone know if it appears with Legion or the council scene?
Basically, carnifex in scene = ****'s going dooooown.

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Nah, balance, it's not. The Predator is the one used in ME3 cutscenes. The Carnifex is only used in one cutscene, or so I've been told. The cutscene in which you shoot Mordin. With the gun he gave you.

Or at least, I remember the Predator being the cutscene pistol and the wiki backs me up, anyone got any evidence that I'm wrong? :S

Alright, my fault, I thought the guns had more meaning to them.

They do. That's the point.

The gun is the tool you use to rebel in the indoctrination. That's why destroy is activated by it, while synthesis and control both involve you tossing it away. It's also why the scenes focus less and less on the gun each time you go further into the dream (wake up after Harby, gun is the first thing you see. Wake up in citadel, walk forward to pick up the gun. Wake up with starkid, you're holding the gun but it's invisible)

The gun you wake up with is the gun you do NOT normally have, and only use in cutscenes when some bad stuff is going down (Mordin). But, when you choose destroy, at the very last second we can see it's been replaced by the Predator - the correct gun.

Other things that link the Predator to this theme are the fact that Saren and TIM both free themselves from indoctrination (shoot themselves) with this gun. TIM takes the predator off Anderson, but Anderson is shown to have a Carnifex before the dream. Sheps paragon side has the Predator.

...is my reading of it.

EDIT - can't find evidence that Saren did use a predator, so for now disregard that point.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 14 mai 2012 - 08:29 .

[M Hedonist]

TSA_383 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Nah, balance, it's not. The Predator is the one used in ME3 cutscenes. The Carnifex is only used in one cutscene, or so I've been told. The cutscene in which you shoot Mordin. With the gun he gave you.

Or at least, I remember the Predator being the cutscene pistol and the wiki backs me up, anyone got any evidence that I'm wrong? :S

Carnifex is used if you shoot mordin, it also makes an appearance when wrex confronts you if you fake the genophage cure, and it is the gun you shoot anderson with. Those are the ones I'm aware of, there may be others - anyone know if it appears with Legion or the council scene?
Basically, carnifex in scene = ****'s going dooooown.

"If you wanna kill your friend, don't you wish Carnifex was at your side?"

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Gorebat wrote...

Dumb question, we aren't disputing how we obtained the Carnifex, correct? Because if I remember correctly we got that from our favorite Salarian scientist back on Omega.

Yeah, the Carnifex IS Shepard's pistol that he uses in ALL the cutscenes, to suddenly give him a predetor (both Saren  and TIM used it, plus other baddies) in the last few frames we see him, makes almost 0 sense to me.

Nah, balance, it's not. The Predator is the one used in ME3 cutscenes. The Carnifex is only used in one cutscene, or so I've been told. The cutscene in which you shoot Mordin. With the gun he gave you.

Or at least, I remember the Predator being the cutscene pistol and the wiki backs me up, anyone got any evidence that I'm wrong? :S

Alright, my fault, I thought the guns had more meaning to them.

They do. That's the point.

The gun is the tool you use to rebel in the indoctrination. That's why destroy is activated by it, while synthesis and control both involve you tossing it away. It's also why the scenes focus less and less on the gun each time you go further into the dream (wake up after Harby, gun is the first thing you see. Wake up in citadel, walk forward to pick up the gun. Wake up with starkid, you're holding the gun but it's invisible)

The gun you wake up with is the gun you do NOT normally have, and only use in cutscenes when some bad stuff is going down (Mordin). But, when you choose destroy, at the very last second we can see it's been replaced by the Predator - the correct gun.

Other things that link the Predator to this theme are the fact that Saren and TIM both free themselves from indoctrination (shoot themselves) with this gun. TIM takes the predator off Anderson, but Anderson is shown to have a Carnifex before the dream. Sheps paragon side has the Predator.

...is my reading of it - and I'll point out I had most of this stated before I found the gun switch

Ah, alright. I think I get it now. Thx for explaining that. I'm just depressed because of this mornign so I can't think straight.

[Big G13]

That was weird. Woke up in front of my computer only to find my whole world had been LOCKED DOWN. Thanks byne for keeping it going.

[UrgedDuke]

I just got back, why did they close the last thread Priestly could have just booted that troll. I don't get why he closed it for no reason

[HellishFiend]

Sad that the other topic got canned but I hate to say I saw it coming. Me along with several others tried warning everybody not to keep engaging the trolls and getting off topic, but it continued anyway.

Anyhow, on topic:

Shepard getting his Predator back for the Destroy ending is a great find. A few days back I posted about how Shepard almost always seems to be using the Carnifex in a negative context (specifically, when he kills Mordin and Wrex), and then is using it again for the end sequence. Then, when his willpower holds and he picks destroy, he has his trusty Predator back!

Nice!

[balance5050]

UrgedDuke wrote...

I just got back, why did they close the last thread Priestly could have just booted that troll. I don't get why he closed it for no reason

A troll cought one of us in his trap. I'll refrain from saying anything about Mr. Priestly.

[HellishFiend]

UrgedDuke wrote...

I just got back, why did they close the last thread Priestly could have just booted that troll. I don't get why he closed it for no reason

Because "we" are just as much to blame for engaging the trolls as the trolls are for trolling. Large Forum Management 101.

[marcelo_sdk]

I said a month ago ago in a local forum that he was using a Predator in Destroy, but everybody said I was mad, so I just abandoned the idea. Nice to know I was not crazy

[SS2Dante]

HellishFiend wrote...

Sad that the other topic got canned but I hate to say I saw it coming. Me along with several others tried warning everybody not to keep engaging the trolls and getting off topic, but it continued anyway.

Anyhow, on topic:

Shepard getting his Predator back for the Destroy ending is a great find. A few days back I posted about how Shepard almost always seems to be using the Carnifex in a negative context (specifically, when he kills Mordin and Wrex), and then is using it again for the end sequence. Then, when his willpower holds and he picks destroy, he has his trusty Predator back!

Nice!

I also noticed that the blue and green endings both load the red cinematics and sounds, as well as their own. I'm not much of a sound guy though so can't really analyse that. Would not surprise me to ind that you can hear all the red stuff in the background of the other endings or something. (since, theoretically, Shep is always lying there, just in the green and blue doesn't wake up)

[M Hedonist]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

I said a month ago ago in a local forum that he was using a Predator in Destroy, but everybody said I was mad, so I just abandoned the idea. Nice to know I was not crazy

Yeah... I stay out of 'local' forums because of that kind of stuff. Just stick to the English ones if you're fluent in that language, anyway.

[MegumiAzusa]

Sauruz wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

I said a month ago ago in a local forum that he was using a Predator in Destroy, but everybody said I was mad, so I just abandoned the idea. Nice to know I was not crazy

Yeah... I stay out of 'local' forums because of that kind of stuff. Just stick to the English ones if you're fluent in that language, anyway.

It's only changed in the very last scene so most miss it. Just give them a screenshot that shows them that.

[HellishFiend]

SS2Dante wrote...


I also noticed that the blue and green endings both load the red cinematics and sounds, as well as their own. I'm not much of a sound guy though so can't really analyse that. Would not surprise me to ind that you can hear all the red stuff in the background of the other endings or something. (since, theoretically, Shep is always lying there, just in the green and blue doesn't wake up)

Which "red cinematics and sounds" do you mean? Do you mean that the sounds and scenes from destroy are used exclusively for all 3 endings and the differences for the other two are overlayed?

[DistantUtopia]

paxxton wrote...
Or he could have passed away in Vancouver HQ after hitting his head against a bench. And his spirit is being indoctrinated.

Now I'm suddenly bombarded with theories of "Knowing."  What if the entire ME3 game is Shepard seeing the future?

Ugh...

[SS2Dante]

HellishFiend wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


I also noticed that the blue and green endings both load the red cinematics and sounds, as well as their own. I'm not much of a sound guy though so can't really analyse that. Would not surprise me to ind that you can hear all the red stuff in the background of the other endings or something. (since, theoretically, Shep is always lying there, just in the green and blue doesn't wake up)

Which "red cinematics and sounds" do you mean? Do you mean that the sounds and scenes from destroy are used exclusively for all 3 endings and the differences for the other two are overlayed?

Well i know that the red cinematics/instruction to load them are certainly present in the ending files for green blue AND red. Whether or not they're actually implemented...

Course, the last thing I noticed like this was Shep's Predator model in destroy ending, and that proved fruitful, so