It also works the other way around: the absence of Shepard being killed suggests to me that it is an ideal outcome.HellishFiend wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
You are missing the point of "I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop you!". She doesn't reject because of the ones she likes, she rejects because it would again mean using methodes provided by the Reapers. Notice the "you". Choosing destroy is using a method provided by the Catalyst aka a Reaper or the Reaper in Chief. Like Reaper technology provided by saving the Collector Base corrupting the soul of the species the Reaper methods provided by the Catalyst is corrupting and therefor she rejects.HellishFiend wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
I disagree with rejecting is rejecting victory. It is rejecting the premise the Catalyst offers, Shepard is still fighting, but in her own way like she did since Eden Prime. "I gonna end this war on my terms." It is actually worded pretty similar to when rejecting to save the collector base. "I gonna win this war without sacrificing the soul of our species"HellishFiend wrote...
I sent this as a reply to a PM, thought some of you might like to read it:
Reject is certainly an enigma for IT. I personally feel that it's presence among the endings doesnt detract from the core IT beliefs even one bit, but it is difficult to put a finger on what the outcome would be from it. Whatever it may be, I think it is safe to say that it is not as good an outcome as Destroy, because to quote Lieutenant Victus: "Victory, at any cost".
Choosing reject is rejecting victory over the Reapers on the grounds of not wanting to sacrifice his friends. If you've seen my Choose Wisely video, I highlight how sacrifice, and willingness to sacrifice, is a huge theme in the game. Reject is essentially choosing inaction over a costly victory, which would most likely lead to inevitable defeat.
Well, I didnt mean to imply that he was rejecting victory altogether, just that he was rejecting an available means to victory because it would require sacrificing some of his friends and technology. That's pretty different than sacrificing the soul of the species, dont you think? Especially when said friends have explicated that they are willing to sacrifice themselves for a good cause.
But he doesnt die knowing that he did everything he could to stop them... He had an option right in front of him and he didnt take it. At least, thats the way I see it. If we got the breath scene after the Reject ending I might agree with you, but the absence of it suggests to me that it is not an ideal outcome.
"He had an option right in front of him and he didnt take it." which would have required trusting the Reaper in Chief who isn't even bothered to order at least a cease fire until Shepard made a decision and without anything suggesting it is sincere.




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