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[HellishFiend]

FYI everyone, going to be putting out a quick evidence video with some footage Turbo sent me. Expect it within the hour.

[CoolioThane]

Sounds like Harby says "Serve us"

[D.Sharrah]

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

The best case of fail was Merizan tweeting to someone that is the destroy ending you could head canon the reunion (seriously paraphrased, but that was the message)...just, come on.

[Cecilia L]

Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Hey guys! Been busy today, so I have missed A LOT.

Can someone compile a list of any new evidence discovered from the EC? I've heard a few things, but if one of you could make a summary list, I would be really appreciative. Anything and everything from the EC that could be further 'hints' at the IT.

Thank you!

We have discussed:
-Sounds like Harbinger is saying "serve us" before Shep gets blasted with beam. www.youtube.com/watch
-Male/Female Shep voices sound more obvious in Starbinger's voice
-Mass relay explosion chain is still wrong in the EC
-Normandy picking up squad doesn't make a whole lot of sense, Harbinger is staring at Shep/Normandy during this, is not firing lasers.
-Much speculation on the Refuse choice.

There was also earlier a separate thread about Shepards arrival looking just like the Mako's arrival at the Citadel in ME1 as yet another thing among Citadel looking like Collector base, SB ship and such. Could be further evidence that surroundings and events are made up from familiar elements.

[comrade gando]

EpyonX3 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

I didn't find destroy depressing at all. Synthesis, believe it or not, almost choked me up when Liara hugged EDI. The look on EDI's face was just awesome. Control was down right disturbing.

they all suck because shepard gets treated like garbage no matter what choice you pick. it's nice to see all your friends getting on with their lives and all, civilization rebuilding (ignore all those plotholes. STOP LOOKING. LOOK AT ME!), and everyone's just getting along just fine. oh shepard? **** that dude he's dead and gone. will never see his friends again. thanks for playing.

[Makrys]

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

Lol. 

And yes, agreed. The EC endings insulted me, because it means that I'm expected to accept them. Sorry, but control and Synthesis I will never accept. 

I simply fail to see how all of the sudden WOOP DE DOOP, SHEPARD IS A SUPER HERO AND CAN NOW CONTROL THE REAPERS EVEN THOUGH COUNTLESS PREVIOUS CIVILIZATIONS HAVE TRIED AND FAILED. IT HAS BEEN A TRICK BY THE REAPERS FOR EONS OF TIME BUT NOPE, SHEPARD IS GOD MAN AND HE CAN DO ANYTHING.

Synthesis was what Saren wanted. How the hell is this not Reaper doctrine? WOOPSY DOOPSY YEAH SAREN WANTED THIS BUT ITZ TOTALLY FINEZ NOWZ. YEAH GO AHEAD AND COMBINE ORGANICS AND SYNTHETICS CONSIDERING THATS EXACTLY WHAT REAPERS ARE. PSHHH NO PROBLEM. DOES IT GO AGAINST THE PRINICIPLES OF THE ENTIRE TRILOGY? SURE! DOES IT MATTER? NO OF COURSE NOT! NOW GO AHEAD AND CHOOSE IT BECAUSE WE AT BIOWARE HAVE DECIDED ITS OUR FAVORITZ. WE'RE IDIOTS AND LIKE TO DESTROY OUR ENTIRE TRILOGY IN THE LAST 20 MINUTES, BUT WHO CARES! YOU MUST LOVE THE ENDINGS! YOU MUST! AHASFHASD FALERAHDFAKLSDKRAER AOIFHASDF.

Modifié par Makrys, 28 juin 2012 - 04:13 .

[Andromidius]

Lavans6879 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Lavans6879 wrote...

I don't care that BioWare released EC, I still say the indoctrination theory is correct, and that there's still a war to be won with Harbiner as the final boss after Shepard regains consciousness.

Wise move. BW even went out of their way to say that EC is not intended to prove or disprove IT, so it makes no sense to write it off at this point. 

Indeed. However, BioWare did state they would not be changing the ending of the game. By admitting the IT, they will effectively change the ending of the game.

I would argue that the EC changes the ending of the game anyway.  Altering certain details (Normandy crash) changes the nature of the three original endings, and adding a fourth ending is undisputably 'changing' the endings due to Starbinger's outburst showing its sinister nature.

[spotlessvoid]

My personal biggest new question is:

If you choose reject, the Reapers win conventionally, therefore the Reapers can win conventionally. Why even offer Shepard any options if winning conventionally is still fully possible? Shepard is completely vulnerable and Starchild doesn't need to explain anything to Shepard regardless...

[Starbuck8]

D.Sharrah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

The best case of fail was Merizan tweeting to someone that is the destroy ending you could head canon the reunion (seriously paraphrased, but that was the message)...just, come on.

Saw that. And this twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/217810186818162688

[comrade gando]

D.Sharrah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

The best case of fail was Merizan tweeting to someone that is the destroy ending you could head canon the reunion (seriously paraphrased, but that was the message)...just, come on.

I believe it went something like 

random tweet: all I want to do is save my crew and love interest tali

jessica: then pick destroy and go save her!


..................

[TJBartlemus]

Has anyone noticed that it looks like they put more detail into Harbinger and the Reaper in the distance you see while talking to Starchild?? Why would they put more detail in the 2nd one??

[DJBare]

So, the crucible is just basically a big ole power source according to the AI, okay, how did this big ole power source create the new possibilities the AI mentions?, it would have to be more than a PSU for something like that, yup, reject is starting to look more appealing.

[FellishBeast]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Domanese wrote...

Something does get my attention. If the Leviathan is a Renegade Reaper, the first one in fact then is it possible that this DLC could influence the endings as well or will it just be another war asset? I mean a treasonous reaper would have a lot more insight on how to achieve a much more powerful victory.

Exactly.  Why include that on this DLC?  Hasn't the community more than shown that we are willing to tear apart every single bit of data that we can find...if Bioware was trying to keep the Leviathan a secret this was not a very good plan...and if they didn't care that it was secret...

It was probably intentional. Gamble already said they were still working on DLC, they probably counted on people finding this. They can use it as additional hype and it's probably got a decent bearing on the ending.

I herd u liek speculationz twitter.com/GambleMike/status/217855875140952064

WHERE do they find these people? Mass effect was dead to you but they put out an slightly (slightly!) fleshed out version almost 4 months after launch and NOW you love it? The extended cut ending would have been almost as universally scorned if it was the the launch ending. It's still loving stupid. It's only slightly less nonsensical.

Yeh...the issues are much less obvious now, though. There are still huge questions, but the average person will not have them.

There were very odd unanswered questions in CoD:MW2 (don't hate) but do you think anyone gave a @#$%? I didn't until it was pointed out to me, and I claimed to love the story.

Go figure.

[EpyonX3]

Xavendithas wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Not at all. My response to that is then how did Tali know when Shepard's mind conversation was over if he wasn't speaking?

He didn't approach her.

Well, in that scene as the conversation with the reaper is winding down, Shepard realizes that Tali is behind him and turns to face her and then turns back to the reaper. The reaper doesn't say anything further and that is when Tali makes her comment about having killed a reaper.

Not really.



Reaper is talking here about Shepard having the same attitude as the quarians. Tali is standing right behind Shepard.

[D.Sharrah]

spotlessvoid wrote...

My personal biggest new question is:

If you choose reject, the Reapers win conventionally, therefore the Reapers can win conventionally. Why even offer Shepard any options if winning conventionally is still fully possible? Shepard is completely vulnerable and Starchild doesn't need to explain anything to Shepard regardless...

Great point...wish I had an answer for you.

[agmrpink]

[quote]Cecilia L wrote...

[/quote]
Hm. Buying 10 big DLCs and
in each one finding small pieces of the puzzle does sound like an
interesting idea. Then when you have all the pieces (information, war
assets etc), you can break out of indoctrination or defeat the Reapers
in a true ultimate ending.

Interesting.[/quote]


What if WE, THE PLAYERS, are in fact the ones getting indoctrinated?

Modifié par agmrpink, 28 juin 2012 - 04:14 .

[EpyonX3]

Starbuck8 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

The best case of fail was Merizan tweeting to someone that is the destroy ending you could head canon the reunion (seriously paraphrased, but that was the message)...just, come on.

Saw that. And this twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/217810186818162688

Her tweet makes sense. If the destroy ending didn't kill anything other than reapers, then there would be no consequence, since everything is rebuilt after time.

[Cecilia L]

HellishFiend wrote...

FYI everyone, going to be putting out a quick evidence video with some footage Turbo sent me. Expect it within the hour.

If you're interested in Mako/Shepard comparison arriving at the Citadel. Links to videos. Could be interesting to make a video of the two side by side to compare the very similar camera angles.

http://social.biowar.../index/12814321

[D.Sharrah]

HellishFiend wrote...

FYI everyone, going to be putting out a quick evidence video with some footage Turbo sent me. Expect it within the hour.

Don't know if I still be up...will try to keep eyes open...if I don't make it, make sure the vid doesn't get lost in the thread - I want to be able to find it in the morning.

[FellishBeast]

agmrpink wrote...

What if WE, THE PLAYERS, are in fact the ones getting indoctrinated?

Sort of old news...but that does make me wonder...

What if BioWare isn't done indoctrinating us?

[Starbuck8]

comrade gando wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

The best case of fail was Merizan tweeting to someone that is the destroy ending you could head canon the reunion (seriously paraphrased, but that was the message)...just, come on.

I believe it went something like 

random tweet: all I want to do is save my crew and love interest tali

jessica: then pick destroy and go save her!


..................

That sounds like something said way back before the EC. More recently she said that they didn't include reunion scenes in the EC because they didn't want to be prescriptive and wanted everyone to basically headcanon what their reunion would be, because everyone would want something different.

[TJBartlemus]

D.Sharrah wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

My personal biggest new question is:

If you choose reject, the Reapers win conventionally, therefore the Reapers can win conventionally. Why even offer Shepard any options if winning conventionally is still fully possible? Shepard is completely vulnerable and Starchild doesn't need to explain anything to Shepard regardless...

Great point...wish I had an answer for you.

Starchild is either trying to indoctrinate, or he really is trying to influence Shepard into making a choice that is favorable to him and ending the cycle. Hmmm....

[comrade gando]

anyway, that's what IT was all about pre-EC, the players themselves were experiencing indoctrination. people were waiting for EC to reveal what REALLY happened at the end of ME3. little did we know it was like waiting for a buffalo to fart in your face.

Modifié par comrade gando, 28 juin 2012 - 04:15 .

[FellishBeast]

Sounds good, Fe-....*ahem*....Hellish! 

Modifié par FellishBeast, 28 juin 2012 - 04:15 .

[Starbuck8]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

*plays EC, picks reject. scratches head... reloads game and picks destroy... looks up other endings on youtube*

come here bioware...c'mere... I'm not gonna hit you come here... just get over here.......*slaps bioware in the face* that's for being an **** yet again.

srsly wtf is casey's problem with these rediculous depressing endings. give the fans what they freakin' want man.

The best case of fail was Merizan tweeting to someone that is the destroy ending you could head canon the reunion (seriously paraphrased, but that was the message)...just, come on.

Saw that. And this twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/217810186818162688

Her tweet makes sense. If the destroy ending didn't kill anything other than reapers, then there would be no consequence, since everything is rebuilt after time.

I understand that. But I was more talking about how she had been implying before that EDI/geth could live in Destroy, and that "changed"