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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Auralius Carolus

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SwobyJ wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

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Mind you, I don't believe it. I just LOVE theories. Loveemloveemlovem. And stories. And storytelling.


Analysis and Stories: Two of my favorites.

Wanna have some fun with that? Go around the US where all manner of strange creatures are sighted: The Loup Garou of Louisiana, the Sasquatch of Northern California or Washington, Ghosts, etc., then go a spend some time out in the wilds and listen to the noises.

Be sure to bring fresh undies if you're weak in the bowles. :?


I'm going to play The Secret World when it launches soon and I heard from closed beta testers that the later parts of the story have quite a few twists! :D

And that doesn't even count the faction questlines, as those were disabled for public-closed testing due to spoilers.


It looks interesting, and I absolutely love lore and mythology, but the thought of running into a real-life counterpart... hearing some of these calls at night... man it's a new kind of thrill.

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In regards to the comments about BW dragging the full explanations out, I still have many of the BW tweets saved from the first thread where they were hint dropping every damn day that IT had merit. One of them even linked to the original thread Byne made and said something along the lines of "these guys are on the right track". I still believe that BW is trying to indoctrinate us for a big "haha, got you!" moment in upcoming DLC where we find out that Shep was indoc'd and that they had duped all their players. Fingers crossed. There's still tons of evidence in IT's favor.


Would really like to see those tweets as well.

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Haha for some reason the way Anderson delivers the "It gets worse" line it always cracks me up. He just feels like he's trolling in that mission. "Shepard I need you to stay allive! Also I'm sending you through 5 miles of the most Reaper infested territory of London. And,,, It gets worse"

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Starbuck8 wrote...

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 Here's the scene where Shepard seems to show fear at the mention of Harbinger: 

This is pre-EC by the way, so it was there originally. 

Now, looking for a ME3 only playthrough version.


Oh. That's a little creepy when he looks at the camera.


Lol, he did didn't he.

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plfranke wrote...

Haha for some reason the way Anderson delivers the "It gets worse" line it always cracks me up. He just feels like he's trolling in that mission. "Shepard I need you to stay allive! Also I'm sending you through 5 miles of the most Reaper infested territory of London. And,,, It gets worse"


Lol

Anderson just won't let poor Shep get off easy.

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Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.

Modifié par runwhileucan, 28 juin 2012 - 07:53 .


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runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.

I thought it was odd that Hackett is clearly talking about Shepard but he says "Someone"

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runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.

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Domanese wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

In regards to the comments about BW dragging the full explanations out, I still have many of the BW tweets saved from the first thread where they were hint dropping every damn day that IT had merit. One of them even linked to the original thread Byne made and said something along the lines of "these guys are on the right track". I still believe that BW is trying to indoctrinate us for a big "haha, got you!" moment in upcoming DLC where we find out that Shep was indoc'd and that they had duped all their players. Fingers crossed. There's still tons of evidence in IT's favor.


Would really like to see those tweets as well.


This. Please provide.

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Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.


What's even stranger than that is the fact that the Normandy & crew fleeing the scene was explained by adding a scene to the game that couldnt have occurred in the original version. It's like they expect us to say "Oh, ok, they got on to the Normandy and fled because Shepard told them to"  even though that clearly didnt happen in the original game. 

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Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.

The line is not by accident. It is symbolic, meaning that your decisions on the citadel decide who you really are.

#32837
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Makrys wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 Here's the scene where Shepard seems to show fear at the mention of Harbinger: 

This is pre-EC by the way, so it was there originally. 

Now, looking for a ME3 only playthrough version.


Oh. That's a little creepy when he looks at the camera.


Lol, he did didn't he.


1:32:06 exactly. He does have the "horror face" and he does look at the screen. Maybe I didn't notice because I had a custom Shep? I don't know but it's weird.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.


What's even stranger than that is the fact that the Normandy & crew fleeing the scene was explained by adding a scene to the game that couldnt have occurred in the original version. It's like they expect us to say "Oh, ok, they got on to the Normandy and fled because Shepard told them to"  even though that clearly didnt happen in the original game. 

That scene without a shadow of a doubt did not happen. Even if you believe for some reason that Harbinger would just stare at the Normandy without shooting it down... I brought Javik with me on the mission, this dude is not backing down from a fight with the Reapers I don't care what anyone says it's not his character. He is the Shepard of the Protheans. He wouldn't even listen to Shepard if Shepard told him to stay in the ship for that matter, so the fact that he escaped.... nope once I saw that I knew IT was alive.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.


What's even stranger than that is the fact that the Normandy & crew fleeing the scene was explained by adding a scene to the game that couldnt have occurred in the original version. It's like they expect us to say "Oh, ok, they got on to the Normandy and fled because Shepard told them to"  even though that clearly didnt happen in the original game. 


Lol so they changed the endings, like they said they wouldn't. Or one of them was an illusion... =]

#32840
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plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.


What's even stranger than that is the fact that the Normandy & crew fleeing the scene was explained by adding a scene to the game that couldnt have occurred in the original version. It's like they expect us to say "Oh, ok, they got on to the Normandy and fled because Shepard told them to"  even though that clearly didnt happen in the original game. 

That scene without a shadow of a doubt did not happen. Even if you believe for some reason that Harbinger would just stare at the Normandy without shooting it down... I brought Javik with me on the mission, this dude is not backing down from a fight with the Reapers I don't care what anyone says it's not his character. He is the Shepard of the Protheans. He wouldn't even listen to Shepard if Shepard told him to stay in the ship for that matter, so the fact that he escaped.... nope once I saw that I knew IT was alive.


Yeah that's like out-of-the-galaxy-OOC for Javik. He'd kill Shepard in a second if he stood between him and the reapers.

Edit: and do I even have to mention that Javik already told Shep he was planning on comitting suicide after they defeat the reapers. it's established he has nothing to live for other than fighting the reapers. he doesn't even plan to go on living once it's all said and done.

Modifié par Starbuck8, 28 juin 2012 - 08:06 .


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Okay so, was going through the ending with another Shepard and noticed the sound of the London FOB building settling, put it on Skydrive,  here.

Thought it was interesting, especially since it's somewhat comparable to the original breath scene sounds. What do we think, more evidence for the breath occuring in London? Not like the rubble lready didn't put the nail in <_<

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plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.


What's even stranger than that is the fact that the Normandy & crew fleeing the scene was explained by adding a scene to the game that couldnt have occurred in the original version. It's like they expect us to say "Oh, ok, they got on to the Normandy and fled because Shepard told them to"  even though that clearly didnt happen in the original game. 

That scene without a shadow of a doubt did not happen. Even if you believe for some reason that Harbinger would just stare at the Normandy without shooting it down... I brought Javik with me on the mission, this dude is not backing down from a fight with the Reapers I don't care what anyone says it's not his character. He is the Shepard of the Protheans. He wouldn't even listen to Shepard if Shepard told him to stay in the ship for that matter, so the fact that he escaped.... nope once I saw that I knew IT was alive.

All I saw was my LI Tali getting on the ship because she got injured and was begging Shepard to come with her. Only for Shepard to tell her to go build the house on the home world and that he loves her. I almost cried there. Although I did find it odd that Harbinger didn't just blast the Normandy out of the sky. Maybe he was caught up in the moment too.

#32843
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Starbuck8 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

That scene without a shadow of a doubt did not happen. Even if you believe for some reason that Harbinger would just stare at the Normandy without shooting it down... I brought Javik with me on the mission, this dude is not backing down from a fight with the Reapers I don't care what anyone says it's not his character. He is the Shepard of the Protheans. He wouldn't even listen to Shepard if Shepard told him to stay in the ship for that matter, so the fact that he escaped.... nope once I saw that I knew IT was alive.


Yeah that's like out-of-the-galaxy-OOC for Javik. He'd kill Shepard in a second if he stood between him and the reapers.


Agreed. 

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Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

runwhileucan wrote...

Anyone notice that they said "Someone made it to the Citadel"? Not 2, 1. Only Shepard was mentioned yet Anderson was there. I thought that was odd.


Yeah, I did find that odd as well. And they don't even say Shepard's name. Just "s/he did it" and "someone made it". There's lots of speculation to be had about these lines.


What's even stranger than that is the fact that the Normandy & crew fleeing the scene was explained by adding a scene to the game that couldnt have occurred in the original version. It's like they expect us to say "Oh, ok, they got on to the Normandy and fled because Shepard told them to"  even though that clearly didnt happen in the original game. 


Lol so they changed the endings, like they said they wouldn't. Or one of them was an illusion... =]

Speaking of Javik, we mostly agree that synthesis is retarded and disgusting (seeing Liara all synthesised was too much Posted Image) seeing Javik green circuitry? ****ing JAVIK! Makes. No. Sense. He would sooner kill himself. No question.

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 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

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HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:


Uhhhhhh.....
:pinched: cant... stop... laughing...

Modifié par Starbuck8, 28 juin 2012 - 08:09 .


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wasn't the crucible build to only destroy reapers, so why did we end up with control and synthesis option then? I mean, countless civilizations before build it only for the purpose to destroy so how is it possible that all of sudden it has the design to do different things?
Why didnt the reaper defend the interior of the citadel with infantry, so they make sure nobody ever reaches the control pannel? Annd also, what happened to the people inside the citadel after the reaper took control?

When the crucible got transfered and protected by "shield" to the citadel, shouldn't it be easier for the reapers to destroy the crucible with their sheer combat power instead of protecting the beam??
what can "shield " do, if all reapers on sol system engage them?

Why exactly does the catalyst not interact during the whole events of mass effect? Maybe he cant interact, because he was only designed to find a solution nothing else, and if his solution, the reapers, fail , he decided to try and find an other solution. would that make sense?

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Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

Posted Image


Uhhhhhh.....

This.

#32849
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

Posted Image


Uhhhhhh.....

This.


Hey, dont Uhhh at me, I didnt make him look at the camera like that! lol

Modifié par HellishFiend, 28 juin 2012 - 08:10 .


#32850
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also guys in one playthrough javik told me that after the war him and liara were going to write a book about protheans together. why in most does he tell me he's gonna kill himself. damn it me javik and garrus are going on that beach and living off the royalties of that book. "Nobody else dies today!!!!"