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#32851
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

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Uhhhhhh.....

This.

Looks like the begining of an underwear ad. Just make it grayscale and it would be perfect.

#32852
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HellishFiend wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

*snip*


Uhhhhhh.....

This.


Hey, dont Uhhh at me, I didnt make him look at the camera like that! lol

I don't think it's relevant Posted Image Unless there's some deep meaning behind Shepard having sex.

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plfranke wrote...

also guys in one playthrough javik told me that after the war him and liara were going to write a book about protheans together. why in most does he tell me he's gonna kill himself. damn it me javik and garrus are going on that beach and living off the royalties of that book. "Nobody else dies today!!!!"


His "decision" there is a direct result of whether you told him to look at the memory shard or not. Have him look at the shard and he becomes suicidal, apparently...

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

*snip*


Uhhhhhh.....

This.


Hey, dont Uhhh at me, I didnt make him look at the camera like that! lol

I don't think it's relevant Posted Image Unless there's some deep meaning behind Shepard having sex.


It is relevant because it happens immediately after the third dream. They also look at the camera within the dreams. Also there is no one laying next to Shepard in this case. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 28 juin 2012 - 08:14 .


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Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 Here's the scene where Shepard seems to show fear at the mention of Harbinger: 

This is pre-EC by the way, so it was there originally. 

Now, looking for a ME3 only playthrough version.


Oh. That's a little creepy when he looks at the camera.


:alien::alien::alien:

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HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

also guys in one playthrough javik told me that after the war him and liara were going to write a book about protheans together. why in most does he tell me he's gonna kill himself. damn it me javik and garrus are going on that beach and living off the royalties of that book. "Nobody else dies today!!!!"


His "decision" there is a direct result of whether you told him to look at the memory shard or not. Have him look at the shard and he becomes suicidal, apparently...


From writing a book with his least favorite crew member to suicide? Geez. :?

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:ph34r:

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 28 juin 2012 - 08:16 .


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plfranke wrote...

also guys in one playthrough javik told me that after the war him and liara were going to write a book about protheans together. why in most does he tell me he's gonna kill himself. damn it me javik and garrus are going on that beach and living off the royalties of that book. "Nobody else dies today!!!!"

It depends on if you do the chat with him and Liara and if you do the memory shard. It works like this:
1. If you make nice and he watches the shard, he commits suicide.
2. If you make nice and he doesn't watch it, he writes the book.
3. If you don't make nice and don't watch the shard he becomes King of the Hanar™
(I think)

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juin 2012 - 08:18 .


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god that is just too creepy that when shepard looks at the camera and says harbinger. anderson is standing like he's under control

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HellishFiend wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Found another example of Shep looking at the camera:

*snip*


Uhhhhhh.....

This.


Hey, dont Uhhh at me, I didnt make him look at the camera like that! lol

I don't think it's relevant Posted Image Unless there's some deep meaning behind Shepard having sex.


It is relevant because it happens immediately after the third dream. They also look at the camera within the dreams. Also there is no one laying next to Shepard in this case. 

I couldn't see that :P

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juin 2012 - 08:19 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

also guys in one playthrough javik told me that after the war him and liara were going to write a book about protheans together. why in most does he tell me he's gonna kill himself. damn it me javik and garrus are going on that beach and living off the royalties of that book. "Nobody else dies today!!!!"

It depends on if you do the chat with him and Liara and if you do the memory shard. It works like this:
1. If you make nice and he watches the shard, he commits suicide.
2. If you make nice and he doesn't watch it, he writes the book.
3. If you don't make nice and don't watch the shard he becomes King of the Hanar™
(I think)

hahahaha when I was reading that all I could think of is it sounds like something jessica merizan would tweet. and then if asked why all I got was a Normandy flying into the sunset I'd get the response "Oh well if that's how your game ends I guess that's the way it ends."

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

:ph34r:


lol Raistlin, you drop in to post and immediately get ninjaed on your very first post. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 28 juin 2012 - 08:21 .


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I totally share your opinion that the ending leaves us with too many flaws, not just the ones i mention above. If someone can give me answers to that, would still highly appreciate it.
But, lets say IT is true : We choose refusal and "wake up" . Where would be start all over again?
-at the beam where harbinger hit us?

-at the beginning of Mass effect 3, ( remember we got unconsious there, when the reaper suddenly attacked alliance headquarters in vancouver, theres also one scene where "camera" goes straight to sheppard while he was watching the emerge of Reapers in Vancouver...just focus on his eyes....

- back to Arrival DLC, where he was unconcious for 2 days and got in toch with a reaper artifact??

And from there, how would we finish the story? What ending would make sense? For me, "waking up" just before the beam would be difficult to finish it without leaving other flaws again.

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plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

also guys in one playthrough javik told me that after the war him and liara were going to write a book about protheans together. why in most does he tell me he's gonna kill himself. damn it me javik and garrus are going on that beach and living off the royalties of that book. "Nobody else dies today!!!!"

It depends on if you do the chat with him and Liara and if you do the memory shard. It works like this:
1. If you make nice and he watches the shard, he commits suicide.
2. If you make nice and he doesn't watch it, he writes the book.
3. If you don't make nice and don't watch the shard he becomes King of the Hanar™
(I think)

hahahaha when I was reading that all I could think of is it sounds like something jessica merizan would tweet. and then if asked why all I got was a Normandy flying into the sunset I'd get the response "Oh well if that's how your game ends I guess that's the way it ends."


No, no, no. You forgot the :)

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Has anyone been able to clearly work out what Harbinger says here: http://youtu.be/BeGZOSK1OFw?t=1m55s
To me it sounds like "serve us" but as we aren't offered any subtitles to clarify it I'd be interested to hear it isolated without the background noise. So if anyone has the means to unpack the EC and hunt down those audio files let me know because I'm damn curious as to what Harby-pants actually says.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 28 juin 2012 - 08:24 .


#32866
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Salient Archer wrote...

Has anyone been able to clearly work out what Harbinger says here: http://youtu.be/BeGZOSK1OFw?t=1m55s
To me it sounds like "serve us" but as we aren't offered any subtitles to clarify it I'd be interested to hear it isolated without the background noise. So if anyone has the means to unpack the EC and hunt down those audio files let me know because I'm damn curious as to what Harby-pants actually says.

Right. Wa ee said.

#32867
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fishfang wrote...

I totally share your opinion that the ending leaves us with too many flaws, not just the ones i mention above. If someone can give me answers to that, would still highly appreciate it.
But, lets say IT is true : We choose refusal and "wake up" . Where would be start all over again?
-at the beam where harbinger hit us?

-at the beginning of Mass effect 3, ( remember we got unconsious there, when the reaper suddenly attacked alliance headquarters in vancouver, theres also one scene where "camera" goes straight to sheppard while he was watching the emerge of Reapers in Vancouver...just focus on his eyes....

- back to Arrival DLC, where he was unconcious for 2 days and got in toch with a reaper artifact??

And from there, how would we finish the story? What ending would make sense? For me, "waking up" just before the beam would be difficult to finish it without leaving other flaws again.


Thats why Bioware writers get paid to write. ;) I cant answer that question, but that doesnt mean Bioware cant...

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HellishFiend wrote...

 Also there is no one laying next to Shepard in this case. 


Real men sleep with Quarian chicks... with Quarian BUM BUM!

Just saying...

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G'night everyone I'm out for now.

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Salient Archer wrote...

Has anyone been able to clearly work out what Harbinger says here: http://youtu.be/BeGZOSK1OFw?t=1m55s
To me it sounds like "serve us" but as we aren't offered any subtitles to clarify it I'd be interested to hear it isolated without the background noise. So if anyone has the means to unpack the EC and hunt down those audio files let me know because I'm damn curious as to what Harby-pants actually says.


A lot of us agree he says "serve us". Did you happen to come to the "serve us" interpretation on your own?

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HellishFiend wrote...

fishfang wrote...

I totally share your opinion that the ending leaves us with too many flaws, not just the ones i mention above. If someone can give me answers to that, would still highly appreciate it.
But, lets say IT is true : We choose refusal and "wake up" . Where would be start all over again?
-at the beam where harbinger hit us?

-at the beginning of Mass effect 3, ( remember we got unconsious there, when the reaper suddenly attacked alliance headquarters in vancouver, theres also one scene where "camera" goes straight to sheppard while he was watching the emerge of Reapers in Vancouver...just focus on his eyes....

- back to Arrival DLC, where he was unconcious for 2 days and got in toch with a reaper artifact??

And from there, how would we finish the story? What ending would make sense? For me, "waking up" just before the beam would be difficult to finish it without leaving other flaws again.


Thats why Bioware writers get paid to write. ;) I cant answer that question, but that doesnt mean Bioware cant...


well, to me we not only have to find clues for iT in the game, we also need to make sure what consequences it would have. pretty one sided now here in this forum. Maybe thats why Bioware gave up on it at some point....

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Also there is no one laying next to Shepard in this case. 


Real men sleep with Quarian chicks... with Quarian BUM BUM!

Just saying...

Unless you're femshep in which case: 
Real women sleep with Asari ... with Asari azure!

Just saying...

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fishfang wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

fishfang wrote...

I totally share your opinion that the ending leaves us with too many flaws, not just the ones i mention above. If someone can give me answers to that, would still highly appreciate it.
But, lets say IT is true : We choose refusal and "wake up" . Where would be start all over again?
-at the beam where harbinger hit us?

-at the beginning of Mass effect 3, ( remember we got unconsious there, when the reaper suddenly attacked alliance headquarters in vancouver, theres also one scene where "camera" goes straight to sheppard while he was watching the emerge of Reapers in Vancouver...just focus on his eyes....

- back to Arrival DLC, where he was unconcious for 2 days and got in toch with a reaper artifact??

And from there, how would we finish the story? What ending would make sense? For me, "waking up" just before the beam would be difficult to finish it without leaving other flaws again.


Thats why Bioware writers get paid to write. ;) I cant answer that question, but that doesnt mean Bioware cant...


well, to me we not only have to find clues for iT in the game, we also need to make sure what consequences it would have. pretty one sided now here in this forum. Maybe thats why Bioware gave up on it at some point....


:? so we have to write the IT endng ourselves and submit it to BioWare?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Also there is no one laying next to Shepard in this case. 


Real men sleep with Quarian chicks... with Quarian BUM BUM!

Just saying...

Unless you're femshep in which case: 
Real women sleep with Asari ... with Asari azure!

Just saying...


Watch your language! How is this not censored? :lol:

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Huh, alright, the Destroyer you face down in London makes the same "serve/save/join us" sound that Harbinger does. It does this in the very beginning of the cutscene for the ground troops (turian krogan asari salarian) vs the Destroyer. Will try to find a vid.