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[Arian Dynas]

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Anyone still think that IT was BW's original intention for ME3?

Yep.

Oh, you want more than that? I thought you were immune to logic.

And so you believe that BW made 3 months worth of pointless dream sequences and spent a lot of time removing the "cracks" in which IT resides? No need for the attack

If I already long ago declared you my enemy and you have made no overtures of peace since, why should I start now?

What I think Bioware DID do was A). Stick to the DLC itinerary I have shown you at least 4 or 5 times now, with the final DLC likely being intended as a Pay for DLC, the EC being the unexpected "band-aid" they stated it to be.

. Made the endings what they originally wanted them to be ( which for some reason did not reach snuff on release day, perhaps the slight rush from EA, giving them 3 less months than they needed?) on the disc, since now the endings actually match what was described in the Prima strategy guide over three months ago.

C). Did preciscely what they said they would not, granting no confirmation, the logic there being that they chose not to alienate one fanbase or the other, (while IT remains a majority, your crowd is a significant amount I cannot deny, significant enough for the beancounters anyway) so that both sides would continue to buy DLC.

Haha y so serious?

Anyway, ok, I assume you are aware that BW have explicitly stated no more ending DLC

Ok

"IT remains the majority", how do you know this?

Your logic (or lack thereof) impresses me. You completely ignore my major points to pick at nits?

First I will start off by saying I hate your guts with the burning passion of a bonfire. You annoy me greatly little man. That is why I usually do not bother responding to you.

Second off, I will apologize, I forgot one point I was going to make; We have seen Mass Effect 3's ending. Mass Effect 3 is complete, done, finis, excepting of course pre ending DLC, which things like Leviathan seem to be.

However, The Arrival, Project Overlord and Lair of the Shadowbroker were all stories that took place post ME2. They were not "ending content" merely stories taking place after the events of ME2 that conveniently used the ME2 game as their engine rather than selling each as an individual short game. They filled in the arch between ME2 and ME3. I expect further DLC to do the same for ME4. Last I checked they never denied more Mass Effect Stories being made, or the chances of a sequel. They won't futz around with the ending anymore. But there is more to come that we don't know about yet.'

Hmm, well let's see; HTL forums. ~80% in favor of IT.

I call that a majority, even in the place where the statistics would naturally be skewed in your direction.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

[Joedogg9999]

Ok im going to point out something very obvious and im sure its veen pointed out, but since i havent seen it yet, but, in the EC they make it clear of showing harbinger a lot more. He even starea at you and before blasting you in the face he says "serve us" , but right when you wake up, and are walking extremely slow, why doesent harbinger just blast you again right there?????

Surely he had time to reload or w.e and finish you off...

And then shepard moves slow as hell the rest of the game. Just like in a dream where you can never run full speed, always in slow motion or is very hars to run at all.

The only logical scenario is that the crew that just picked up your squadmates must sweep back around after seeing you get hit and evac you before harbinger can fire again.

Theres just too much time from harbingers first shot to when shepard reachea the beam for harby to not finish him off.

So in my hopes and dreams, mass effect 4 opens up with (in my case) garrus and javik swooping back down and saving me. The crucible still fails and turns out to be a reaper trap the whole time. Then the adventure begins

[TSA_383]

https://twitter.com/...200494911401984
SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!

FFZero wrote...

If what we’re seeing in the Leviathan DLC leak is true then it is possible that bioware will continually add to the ending through DLC which could lead to the indoc theory being used. They have said from the beginning that they were going to try something new with the story structure this time round. It is unlikely, but possible, and lets be honest here, we have absolutely no idea what Bioware have planned for DLC. We can speculate until we’re blue in the face and our fingers have been whittled down to little more than bloody stumps, and we’ll still be in the dark until Bioware say something official.

I hope so, but this whole EC thing still feels like a kick in the balls.

That said, the bit about the crucible being "almost" complete... hmmmmm

Also, my unpacker won't grab the audio files - does someone have them?

SwobyJ wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

The fact that IT isn't debunked or proved really rustles my jimmies. I'd rather IT be dead or true, not this limbo crap.

It's
impossible to disprove (anything could be a dream, by definition) and
they're not going to acknowledge it (ever) so this is as close as you
guys will get. Sorry.

CoolioThane wrote...

I'ma still hope for the IT...I love it and it's interesting.

What
I hate are all of these ****y pro-enders taking a **** all over the
people who do believe in the IT! **** off the thread if you are just
going to try and ****** over our interest.

Go circlejerk in your love-in threads.

No one's stopping you from believing what you want.

Not
really. As previously said, more story DLC can unlock things later in
the game - thus the friggin large 1.8GB EC DLC that clearly does not
show 1.8GB worth of content even if you add all of the endings together.

Unfortunately, the FMVs alone are 1.3GB.

[SubAstris]

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Anyone still think that IT was BW's original intention for ME3?

Yep.

Oh, you want more than that? I thought you were immune to logic.

And so you believe that BW made 3 months worth of pointless dream sequences and spent a lot of time removing the "cracks" in which IT resides? No need for the attack

If I already long ago declared you my enemy and you have made no overtures of peace since, why should I start now?

What I think Bioware DID do was A). Stick to the DLC itinerary I have shown you at least 4 or 5 times now, with the final DLC likely being intended as a Pay for DLC, the EC being the unexpected "band-aid" they stated it to be.

. Made the endings what they originally wanted them to be ( which for some reason did not reach snuff on release day, perhaps the slight rush from EA, giving them 3 less months than they needed?) on the disc, since now the endings actually match what was described in the Prima strategy guide over three months ago.

C). Did preciscely what they said they would not, granting no confirmation, the logic there being that they chose not to alienate one fanbase or the other, (while IT remains a majority, your crowd is a significant amount I cannot deny, significant enough for the beancounters anyway) so that both sides would continue to buy DLC.

Haha y so serious?

Anyway, ok, I assume you are aware that BW have explicitly stated no more ending DLC

Ok

"IT remains the majority", how do you know this?

Your logic (or lack thereof) impresses me. You completely ignore my major points to pick at nits?

First I will start off by saying I hate your guts with the burning passion of a bonfire. You annoy me greatly little man. That is why I usually do not bother responding to you.

Second off, I will apologize, I forgot one point I was going to make; We have seen Mass Effect 3's ending. Mass Effect 3 is complete, done, finis, excepting of course pre ending DLC, which things like Leviathan seem to be.

However, The Arrival, Project Overlord and Lair of the Shadowbroker were all stories that took place post ME2. They were not "ending content" merely stories taking place after the events of ME2 that conveniently used the ME2 game as their engine rather than selling each as an individual short game. They filled in the arch between ME2 and ME3. I expect further DLC to do the same for ME4. Last I checked they never denied more Mass Effect Stories being made, or the chances of a sequel. They won't futz around with the ending anymore. But there is more to come that we don't know about yet.'

Hmm, well let's see; HTL forums. ~80% in favor of IT.

I call that a majority, even in the place where the statistics would naturally be skewed in your direction.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Let's just cut through the pointless crap and get to the nitty gritty.

1) Yes those DLC did take place after the game; however the difference is that ME3 is the end of Shepard's story completely (and this is something BW have already confirmed ).  Furthermore I would to add that an "IT DLC" of some kind would constitute a key plot piece which stands in stark contrast to DLC such as Overload which are more or less frivolous. I don't deny there won't be other ME games, just that Shepard will be involved in them.

2) If you could somehow present evidence of a poll conducted amongst average ME gamers and whether they would prefer IT, they would be acceptable, but of course you can't, no-one can. Any other evidence is largely negligible in its usefullness. But if it is indeed 80%, as you seem to suggest, that would qualify as a very large majority; it begs the question as to why, despite this great number, BW went with an idea which only at most 20% of their fanbase likes. Surely you would spend time on a new IT DLC instead of this pointless, and in your words deeply unpopular, EC?

BTW nice use of Latin, makes you seem very smart

[FFZero]

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...200494911401984
SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!

FFZero wrote...

If what we’re seeing in the Leviathan DLC leak is true then it is possible that bioware will continually add to the ending through DLC which could lead to the indoc theory being used. They have said from the beginning that they were going to try something new with the story structure this time round. It is unlikely, but possible, and lets be honest here, we have absolutely no idea what Bioware have planned for DLC. We can speculate until we’re blue in the face and our fingers have been whittled down to little more than bloody stumps, and we’ll still be in the dark until Bioware say something official.

I hope so, but this whole EC thing still feels like a kick in the balls.

That said, the bit about the crucible being "almost" complete... hmmmmm

Also, my unpacker won't grab the audio files - does someone have them?

Yeah I've got them, all 2,231 of them...

Haven't listened to all of them but it seems to mostly be dialogue, I can't find any new reaper noises or the new music track which is odd.

Modifié par FFZero, 28 juin 2012 - 11:03 .

[Silent Rogue]

The Extended Cut dlc comes out on the 4th of July where I live. I just couldn't wait that long so I had to see it on youtube today (only watchted perfect destroy with Liara as LI). I will say this; it's a lot better than the original. And that scene with the plaque just made me cry which I don't easily do. However I'm still not fully satisfied.. As was expected of course. I believe there are still things that need explaining (like how does Shepard survive?) and just the very concept of Starchild still bothers me immensely.

Modifié par Silent Rogue, 28 juin 2012 - 11:03 .

[TSA_383]

FFZero wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...200494911401984
SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!

FFZero wrote...

If what we’re seeing in the Leviathan DLC leak is true then it is possible that bioware will continually add to the ending through DLC which could lead to the indoc theory being used. They have said from the beginning that they were going to try something new with the story structure this time round. It is unlikely, but possible, and lets be honest here, we have absolutely no idea what Bioware have planned for DLC. We can speculate until we’re blue in the face and our fingers have been whittled down to little more than bloody stumps, and we’ll still be in the dark until Bioware say something official.

I hope so, but this whole EC thing still feels like a kick in the balls.

That said, the bit about the crucible being "almost" complete... hmmmmm

Also, my unpacker won't grab the audio files - does someone have them?

Yeah I've got them, all 2,231 of them...

Haven't listened to all of them but it seems to mostly be dialogue, I can't find any new reaper noises or the new music track which is odd.

Give me a hand unpacking? 

By the by, music, non-dialogue audio etc will be in "wwise" folders

[Arian Dynas]

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Anyone still think that IT was BW's original intention for ME3?

Yep.

Oh, you want more than that? I thought you were immune to logic.

And so you believe that BW made 3 months worth of pointless dream sequences and spent a lot of time removing the "cracks" in which IT resides? No need for the attack

If I already long ago declared you my enemy and you have made no overtures of peace since, why should I start now?

What I think Bioware DID do was A). Stick to the DLC itinerary I have shown you at least 4 or 5 times now, with the final DLC likely being intended as a Pay for DLC, the EC being the unexpected "band-aid" they stated it to be.

. Made the endings what they originally wanted them to be ( which for some reason did not reach snuff on release day, perhaps the slight rush from EA, giving them 3 less months than they needed?) on the disc, since now the endings actually match what was described in the Prima strategy guide over three months ago.

C). Did preciscely what they said they would not, granting no confirmation, the logic there being that they chose not to alienate one fanbase or the other, (while IT remains a majority, your crowd is a significant amount I cannot deny, significant enough for the beancounters anyway) so that both sides would continue to buy DLC.

Haha y so serious?

Anyway, ok, I assume you are aware that BW have explicitly stated no more ending DLC

Ok

"IT remains the majority", how do you know this?

Your logic (or lack thereof) impresses me. You completely ignore my major points to pick at nits?

First I will start off by saying I hate your guts with the burning passion of a bonfire. You annoy me greatly little man. That is why I usually do not bother responding to you.

Second off, I will apologize, I forgot one point I was going to make; We have seen Mass Effect 3's ending. Mass Effect 3 is complete, done, finis, excepting of course pre ending DLC, which things like Leviathan seem to be.

However, The Arrival, Project Overlord and Lair of the Shadowbroker were all stories that took place post ME2. They were not "ending content" merely stories taking place after the events of ME2 that conveniently used the ME2 game as their engine rather than selling each as an individual short game. They filled in the arch between ME2 and ME3. I expect further DLC to do the same for ME4. Last I checked they never denied more Mass Effect Stories being made, or the chances of a sequel. They won't futz around with the ending anymore. But there is more to come that we don't know about yet.'

Hmm, well let's see; HTL forums. ~80% in favor of IT.

I call that a majority, even in the place where the statistics would naturally be skewed in your direction.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Let's just cut through the pointless crap and get to the nitty gritty.

1) Yes those DLC did take place after the game; however the difference is that ME3 is the end of Shepard's story completely (and this is something BW have already confirmed ).  Furthermore I would to add that an "IT DLC" of some kind would constitute a key plot piece which stands in stark contrast to DLC such as Overload which are more or less frivolous. I don't deny there won't be other ME games, just that Shepard will be involved in them.

2) If you could somehow present evidence of a poll conducted amongst average ME gamers and whether they would prefer IT, they would be acceptable, but of course you can't, no-one can. Any other evidence is largely negligible in its usefullness. But if it is indeed 80%, as you seem to suggest, that would qualify as a very large majority; it begs the question as to why, despite this great number, BW went with an idea which only at most 20% of their fanbase likes. Surely you would spend time on a new IT DLC instead of this pointless, and in your words deeply unpopular, EC?

BTW nice use of Latin, makes you seem very smart

I genuinely do not know why I bother with you. It's like talking to a brick wall.

I'm going to bed, I have a class in the morning and I am far too tired to deal with your bull.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Ok, Thane doesn't look like he's shaking his head at you, looks more like a neck twitch or just some kind of jarring. I think he does something similar when you first meet him in Dantius Tower, when he delivers the line "Not for me....*head twitch* for her." Or maybe I'm imagining it.

Also, for some reason it looks like Miranda dies in Synthesis somehow, saw a still image of Jacob and Brin...bryn? Whatever, Dr. Cole consoling Orianna or someone who looks a lot like her. In the Control ending I got a still or Miranda and Orianna examining Reaper scans on a screen.

Another odd thing, Grunt seems absent from the Synth ending when Wrex lands on Tuchanka. Instead a Krogan in the MP Kroguard armor is there.

Hmm. Puzzle Theory is creeping up on me again. Back with more tomorrow maybe.

[SubAstris]

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Anyone still think that IT was BW's original intention for ME3?

Yep.

Oh, you want more than that? I thought you were immune to logic.

And so you believe that BW made 3 months worth of pointless dream sequences and spent a lot of time removing the "cracks" in which IT resides? No need for the attack

If I already long ago declared you my enemy and you have made no overtures of peace since, why should I start now?

What I think Bioware DID do was A). Stick to the DLC itinerary I have shown you at least 4 or 5 times now, with the final DLC likely being intended as a Pay for DLC, the EC being the unexpected "band-aid" they stated it to be.

. Made the endings what they originally wanted them to be ( which for some reason did not reach snuff on release day, perhaps the slight rush from EA, giving them 3 less months than they needed?) on the disc, since now the endings actually match what was described in the Prima strategy guide over three months ago.

C). Did preciscely what they said they would not, granting no confirmation, the logic there being that they chose not to alienate one fanbase or the other, (while IT remains a majority, your crowd is a significant amount I cannot deny, significant enough for the beancounters anyway) so that both sides would continue to buy DLC.

Haha y so serious?

Anyway, ok, I assume you are aware that BW have explicitly stated no more ending DLC

Ok

"IT remains the majority", how do you know this?

Your logic (or lack thereof) impresses me. You completely ignore my major points to pick at nits?

First I will start off by saying I hate your guts with the burning passion of a bonfire. You annoy me greatly little man. That is why I usually do not bother responding to you.

Second off, I will apologize, I forgot one point I was going to make; We have seen Mass Effect 3's ending. Mass Effect 3 is complete, done, finis, excepting of course pre ending DLC, which things like Leviathan seem to be.

However, The Arrival, Project Overlord and Lair of the Shadowbroker were all stories that took place post ME2. They were not "ending content" merely stories taking place after the events of ME2 that conveniently used the ME2 game as their engine rather than selling each as an individual short game. They filled in the arch between ME2 and ME3. I expect further DLC to do the same for ME4. Last I checked they never denied more Mass Effect Stories being made, or the chances of a sequel. They won't futz around with the ending anymore. But there is more to come that we don't know about yet.'

Hmm, well let's see; HTL forums. ~80% in favor of IT.

I call that a majority, even in the place where the statistics would naturally be skewed in your direction.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Let's just cut through the pointless crap and get to the nitty gritty.

1) Yes those DLC did take place after the game; however the difference is that ME3 is the end of Shepard's story completely (and this is something BW have already confirmed ).  Furthermore I would to add that an "IT DLC" of some kind would constitute a key plot piece which stands in stark contrast to DLC such as Overload which are more or less frivolous. I don't deny there won't be other ME games, just that Shepard will be involved in them.

2) If you could somehow present evidence of a poll conducted amongst average ME gamers and whether they would prefer IT, they would be acceptable, but of course you can't, no-one can. Any other evidence is largely negligible in its usefullness. But if it is indeed 80%, as you seem to suggest, that would qualify as a very large majority; it begs the question as to why, despite this great number, BW went with an idea which only at most 20% of their fanbase likes. Surely you would spend time on a new IT DLC instead of this pointless, and in your words deeply unpopular, EC?

BTW nice use of Latin, makes you seem very smart

I genuinely do not know why I bother with you. It's like talking to a brick wall.

I'm going to bed, I have a class in the morning and I am far too tired to deal with your bull.

What, pre-school? jk

Your ad hominems are just pathetic though. At least try or don't respond; I'm being totally reasonable, you just seem like your throwing all your toys out of the pram to be honest just for asking a few questions. Get in the real world. It's harsh, but true

[FFZero]

TSA_383 wrote...

FFZero wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...200494911401984
SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!

FFZero wrote...

If what we’re seeing in the Leviathan DLC leak is true then it is possible that bioware will continually add to the ending through DLC which could lead to the indoc theory being used. They have said from the beginning that they were going to try something new with the story structure this time round. It is unlikely, but possible, and lets be honest here, we have absolutely no idea what Bioware have planned for DLC. We can speculate until we’re blue in the face and our fingers have been whittled down to little more than bloody stumps, and we’ll still be in the dark until Bioware say something official.

I hope so, but this whole EC thing still feels like a kick in the balls.

That said, the bit about the crucible being "almost" complete... hmmmmm

Also, my unpacker won't grab the audio files - does someone have them?

Yeah I've got them, all 2,231 of them...

Haven't listened to all of them but it seems to mostly be dialogue, I can't find any new reaper noises or the new music track which is odd.

Give me a hand unpacking? 

By the by, music, non-dialogue audio etc will be in "wwise" folders

That's the thing though, there isn't a wwise folder for EC.

Also I'll pm you a link to all the audio I've found for the EC in a few minutes.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Sooo! Any interesting news in the last 11 hours? Already saw Gamble's tweet...

[Starbuck8]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Ok, Thane doesn't look like he's shaking his head at you, looks more like a neck twitch or just some kind of jarring. I think he does something similar when you first meet him in Dantius Tower, when he delivers the line "Not for me....*head twitch* for her." Or maybe I'm imagining it.

Also, for some reason it looks like Miranda dies in Synthesis somehow, saw a still image of Jacob and Brin...bryn? Whatever, Dr. Cole consoling Orianna or someone who looks a lot like her. In the Control ending I got a still or Miranda and Orianna examining Reaper scans on a screen.

Another odd thing, Grunt seems absent from the Synth ending when Wrex lands on Tuchanka. Instead a Krogan in the MP Kroguard armor is there.

Hmm. Puzzle Theory is creeping up on me again. Back with more tomorrow maybe.

K. Sounds good. See u tomorrow. I'm off to bed myself

[gunslinger_ruiz]

And another thing! Before I go to bed for real. This time around in Control, Starchild seems more or less like he's smirking at you. Will try and get a vid of it.

[Silent Rogue]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Sooo! Any interesting news in the last 11 hours? Already saw Gamble's tweet...

What did it say?

[paxxton]

Silent Rogue wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Sooo! Any interesting news in the last 11 hours? Already saw Gamble's tweet...

What did it say?

He specifically asked if anyone noticed differences in the memorial wall scene after Destroy.

[TSA_383]

paxxton wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Sooo! Any interesting news in the last 11 hours? Already saw Gamble's tweet...

What did it say?

He specifically asked if anyone noticed differences in the memorial wall scene after Destroy.

After "shepard lives" destroy

Maybe worth taking a closer look at the two scenes?

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Sooo! Any interesting news in the last 11 hours? Already saw Gamble's tweet...

What did it say?

He specifically asked if anyone noticed differences in the memorial wall scene after Destroy.

After "shepard lives" destroy

Maybe worth taking a closer look at the two scenes?

Yes, could be worth it but what would you expect to find there?

[gpost]

Starbuck8 wrote...

Lol was just watching a renegade control ending. Slightly more disturbing than the paragon, if that was even possible

It does have that extra hint of menace, and emphasises the fact that he has power of the fact that he has the responsibility to use it - it's a nice little touch

[gpost]

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Sooo! Any interesting news in the last 11 hours? Already saw Gamble's tweet...

What did it say?

He specifically asked if anyone noticed differences in the memorial wall scene after Destroy.

After "shepard lives" destroy

Maybe worth taking a closer look at the two scenes?

Yes, could be worth it but what would you expect to find there?

I think it's more than just the destroy memorial scene, look at this tweet conversation: https://twitter.com/...204322146684928

[Earthborn_Shepard]

gpost wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Lol was just watching a renegade control ending. Slightly more disturbing than the paragon, if that was even possible

It does have that extra hint of menace, and emphasises the fact that he has power of the fact that he has the responsibility to use it - it's a nice little touch

I have to admit the Renegade version makes me want to play a renegade FemShep. Unfortunately I am too nice for that.

[monrapias]

I wonder what bioware have up their sleeve. a lot of hints about more dlc, but is it just multiplayer, or what?

Anyway, jacob is the only dude that cheats on female shepard right? and he has daddy issues, and he gets his new girlfriend "knocked up" and he's your only black squadmate.

I wouldn't be suprised if bioware comes out and says that his favorite food is chicken, just to add to the stereotype.

[gpost]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

gpost wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Lol was just watching a renegade control ending. Slightly more disturbing than the paragon, if that was even possible

It does have that extra hint of menace, and emphasises the fact that he has power of the fact that he has the responsibility to use it - it's a nice little touch

I have to admit the Renegade version makes me want to play a renegade FemShep. Unfortunately I am too nice for that.

Renegade Shep in ME2 was a lot of fun because he was just an edgier version, skirting the rules, etc - Renegade Shep in ME3 is borderline sociopathic. It's interesting though and totally worth playing because you get to view this change from beginning to end

[monrapias]

by the way, did anyone see the new maskless quiarien? didn't look anything like tali.

[JestersShade]

Sorry but just read this one that seems pretty clear to me :
https://twitter.com/...107278174339073