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Uncle Jo wrote...
Furthermore, only by reject Harby reveals his true nature (voice change).
masster blaster wrote...
Oh and if you pick Synthesis have you forgotten all of the People how have DIED and now THEIR KIDS HAVE NO PARENT"S OR FAMILY and not to mention why the hell is their peace. You would think that Synthesis brings PEACE but it doesn't say that it only states from the GOD CHILD that synthesis would stop the CYCLE not bring peace but stop. And if you think for a moment would you even trust the Reapers after all they have done to KILL YOU. NO. And I hardly think that many people would come to terms with the Reapers being good guys in the end.
Oh and did anyone think about all the PEOPLE THAT WERE being processed to create a Reaper for SHEPARD IN CONTROL. Now that's funny to me because I forgot that ya it does not tale one person to create a Reaper but Manley millions and maybe BILLIONS.
Modifié par masster blaster, 28 juin 2012 - 04:25 .
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Is is kind of greedy of me that I want a longer epilogue? Because honestly I didn't get much closure on my friends' fates, other then Jacob seems to be a school teacher, Samara likes sitting on benches and Miranda likes standing around a table with other people.
Even Fallout New Vegas had a more detailed epilogue, and that wasn't a character driven story.
Not greedy at all. The monologue + epilogue slides is pretty weak for 3 months of dev time and 1.9 gigs of data. The only thing keeping me from being vastly disappointed is the belief that not all is said and done.
Each cinematic comes in four different languages, plust textures to fix mars, additional fixes for banters, and the slides and such. They had to rerecord not only the english voices but the other languages as well. I can see how it took three months to do all of this.
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Is is kind of greedy of me that I want a longer epilogue? Because honestly I didn't get much closure on my friends' fates, other then Jacob seems to be a school teacher, Samara likes sitting on benches and Miranda likes standing around a table with other people.
Even Fallout New Vegas had a more detailed epilogue, and that wasn't a character driven story.
Not greedy at all. The monologue + epilogue slides is pretty weak for 3 months of dev time and 1.9 gigs of data. The only thing keeping me from being vastly disappointed is the belief that not all is said and done.
Each cinematic comes in four different languages, plust textures to fix mars, additional fixes for banters, and the slides and such. They had to rerecord not only the english voices but the other languages as well. I can see how it took three months to do all of this.
Turbo_J wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Is is kind of greedy of me that I want a longer epilogue? Because honestly I didn't get much closure on my friends' fates, other then Jacob seems to be a school teacher, Samara likes sitting on benches and Miranda likes standing around a table with other people.
Even Fallout New Vegas had a more detailed epilogue, and that wasn't a character driven story.
Not greedy at all. The monologue + epilogue slides is pretty weak for 3 months of dev time and 1.9 gigs of data. The only thing keeping me from being vastly disappointed is the belief that not all is said and done.
I'm starting to suspect that the EC is a cover for file size of the first real DLC. It's probably larger than the 2 gig DL limit for consoles. What better way to slip it in there. Evidence is in the files to support this.
Side note:
I'm taking notes on dialog hints through the game. I'm noting all references to London; which start at Alliance HQ.
I'm noting all anti control, synthesis, and destroy dialog from all NPCs.
Miri's chat in the apartments always annoyed me. Why this again! But it's important anti-control dialog.
I'm also noting all instances of character looking at the PLAYER. Someone is trying to tell us something and we are not listening! Not fully. I think the timing of when these things happen may turn out to be quite telling.
I'm also trying to determine when dialog is reduced to a minimum and becomes more or less reused phrases that Shepard has heard before. Essentially, when no new data is available and things become fuzzy bits of memory repurposed to create a 'reality'.
I'll be cutting clips and if you have time, I'll send them Hellish's way to be fancy packaged and posted, time permitting of course.
HellishFiend wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
I'm starting to suspect that the EC is a cover for file size of the first real DLC. It's probably larger than the 2 gig DL limit for consoles. What better way to slip it in there. Evidence is in the files to support this.
I hadnt considered that. Good point!! It does seem a bit too convenient that the EC just so happened to be right at the file size limit for 360.
One, that's not the point. Why did he change his voice is the most appropriate question.OdanUrr wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
Furthermore, only by reject Harby reveals his true nature (voice change).
One, that voice sounded nothing like Harbinger's. To be honest, it sounded more like the dying Reaper on Rannoch.
Two, do you really think the Catalyst speaks English, or that he has a kid's voice? Do you really think he's a kid?
OdanUrr wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
Furthermore, only by reject Harby reveals his true nature (voice change).
One, that voice sounded nothing like Harbinger's. To be honest, it sounded more like the dying Reaper on Rannoch.
Two, do you really think the Catalyst speaks English, or that he has a kid's voice? Do you really think he's a kid?
HellishFiend wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Is is kind of greedy of me that I want a longer epilogue? Because honestly I didn't get much closure on my friends' fates, other then Jacob seems to be a school teacher, Samara likes sitting on benches and Miranda likes standing around a table with other people.
Even Fallout New Vegas had a more detailed epilogue, and that wasn't a character driven story.
Not greedy at all. The monologue + epilogue slides is pretty weak for 3 months of dev time and 1.9 gigs of data. The only thing keeping me from being vastly disappointed is the belief that not all is said and done.
Each cinematic comes in four different languages, plust textures to fix mars, additional fixes for banters, and the slides and such. They had to rerecord not only the english voices but the other languages as well. I can see how it took three months to do all of this.
The slides? Really? Those could all be done in a week, and thats without taking up any of the developers' time. It's all artistry.
Can you prove that our download of the EC includes localization? Besides, even if it includes the localization, that still doesnt equal 1.9 gigs. And I dont know where you get the impression that the EC justifies 3 months of dev time, because Shadow Broker was done in less time and was far more complex and lengthy.
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
I'm starting to suspect that the EC is a cover for file size of the first real DLC. It's probably larger than the 2 gig DL limit for consoles. What better way to slip it in there. Evidence is in the files to support this.
I hadnt considered that. Good point!! It does seem a bit too convenient that the EC just so happened to be right at the file size limit for 360.
In the interview with Casey Hudson about EC, he says they tried to fit as much as EC as possible without going over the 2 GB limit of the 360. This suggests that the could have done more but wanted the content identical on all three platforms.
OdanUrr wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Is is kind of greedy of me that I want a longer epilogue? Because honestly I didn't get much closure on my friends' fates, other then Jacob seems to be a school teacher, Samara likes sitting on benches and Miranda likes standing around a table with other people.
Even Fallout New Vegas had a more detailed epilogue, and that wasn't a character driven story.
Not greedy at all. The monologue + epilogue slides is pretty weak for 3 months of dev time and 1.9 gigs of data. The only thing keeping me from being vastly disappointed is the belief that not all is said and done.
Each cinematic comes in four different languages, plust textures to fix mars, additional fixes for banters, and the slides and such. They had to rerecord not only the english voices but the other languages as well. I can see how it took three months to do all of this.
Is it available in French?
Yup. It's no surprised no one has bothered responding, though. Godwin's law is the last thing this thread needs.masster blaster wrote...
Did anyone read this?masster blaster wrote...
Oh and If Hitler was to say " Oh I killed all theses people to make the world save,/Concentration Camps" Does that mean you will agree to Hitlers terms hell no , so why agree with the Catalyst if it's doing the same thing as Hitler did, but this time killing Organics/Synthetics but not gassing them but becoming liquid fiend to make new Reapers.
Also does that mean all the dictators have to have a good reason of killing people and making their peoples life like hell. NO! That's what the Catalyst has been doing to the Galaxy EVER SINCE IT WAS CREATED. Did it give a F*** about asking the Organics and Synthetics about not wanting to die? No it killed them, and you know what happened after that.
Uncle Jo wrote...
Now I'm not convinced that destroy is the only way to break free from indoctrination. With low EMS destroy you still can refuse the brat's choice and he gets mad regardless.
Note that if you choose any option implying the Crucible, the last words of Shep are "Let's finish this" (or something like that), while by refuse she says : "At least I'll die knowing I did everything to stop you".
IMO reject demands even more resolve, note also the added dialogue lines insist on "You can't win conventionally", "You're outpowered" in other words "Choose one of my solutions or you're doomed"
Furthermore, only by reject Harby reveals his true nature (voice change).
Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Yup. It's no surprised no one has bothered responding, though. Godwin's law is the last thing this thread needs.masster blaster wrote...
Did anyone read this?masster blaster wrote...
Oh and If Hitler was to say " Oh I killed all theses people to make the world save,/Concentration Camps" Does that mean you will agree to Hitlers terms hell no , so why agree with the Catalyst if it's doing the same thing as Hitler did, but this time killing Organics/Synthetics but not gassing them but becoming liquid fiend to make new Reapers.
Also does that mean all the dictators have to have a good reason of killing people and making their peoples life like hell. NO! That's what the Catalyst has been doing to the Galaxy EVER SINCE IT WAS CREATED. Did it give a F*** about asking the Organics and Synthetics about not wanting to die? No it killed them, and you know what happened after that.
Hi Jo^^ Well, I did a second run with refuse (once more) I was playing at night in silence with my headphones on. Cmon, his speech in refuse alone was better then the entire end sequence since conduit run. And mad Starbrat? Priceless.Uncle Jo wrote...
Now I'm not convinced that destroy is the only way to break free from indoctrination. With low EMS destroy you still can refuse the brat's choice and he gets mad regardless.
Note that if you choose any option implying the Crucible, the last words of Shep are "Let's finish this" (or something like that), while by refuse she says : "At least I'll die knowing I did everything to stop you".
IMO reject demands even more resolve, note also the added dialogue lines insist on "You can't win conventionally", "You're outpowered" in other words "Choose one of my solutions or you're doomed"
Furthermore, only by reject Harby reveals his true nature (voice change).
masster blaster wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
Oh and if you pick Synthesis have you forgotten all of the People how have DIED and now THEIR KIDS HAVE NO PARENT"S OR FAMILY and not to mention why the hell is their peace. You would think that Synthesis brings PEACE but it doesn't say that it only states from the GOD CHILD that synthesis would stop the CYCLE not bring peace but stop. And if you think for a moment would you even trust the Reapers after all they have done to KILL YOU. NO. And I hardly think that many people would come to terms with the Reapers being good guys in the end.
Oh and did anyone think about all the PEOPLE THAT WERE being processed to create a Reaper for SHEPARD IN CONTROL. Now that's funny to me because I forgot that ya it does not tale one person to create a Reaper but Manley millions and maybe BILLIONS.
Did anyone read this too?
Not much left to say about it really. He puts his own foot in his mouth many times, so we dont even really have to try very hard to poke holes in what he says.
HellishFiend wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
I'm starting to suspect that the EC is a cover for file size of the first real DLC. It's probably larger than the 2 gig DL limit for consoles. What better way to slip it in there. Evidence is in the files to support this.
I hadnt considered that. Good point!! It does seem a bit too convenient that the EC just so happened to be right at the file size limit for 360.
In the interview with Casey Hudson about EC, he says they tried to fit as much as EC as possible without going over the 2 GB limit of the 360. This suggests that the could have done more but wanted the content identical on all three platforms.
Please dont take this as a personal attack, but considering the state of the game as of this moment, if you believe everything Casey Hudson says, then you're foolish.
Modifié par masster blaster, 28 juin 2012 - 04:34 .
Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Yup. It's no surprised no one has bothered responding, though. Godwin's law is the last thing this thread needs.
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
I'm starting to suspect that the EC is a cover for file size of the first real DLC. It's probably larger than the 2 gig DL limit for consoles. What better way to slip it in there. Evidence is in the files to support this.
I hadnt considered that. Good point!! It does seem a bit too convenient that the EC just so happened to be right at the file size limit for 360.
In the interview with Casey Hudson about EC, he says they tried to fit as much as EC as possible without going over the 2 GB limit of the 360. This suggests that the could have done more but wanted the content identical on all three platforms.
Please dont take this as a personal attack, but considering the state of the game as of this moment, if you believe everything Casey Hudson says, then you're foolish.
Well I don't expect them to come out say what they have planned in specifics. However, what reasons should I have to not believe him. There's a 2GB limit on the 360, the dlc is 1.9 GB and it actually fixes things not in relation to the ending. I'm sure there could have been for fixes if they could fit it.
masster blaster wrote...
Oh and If Hitler was to say " Oh I killed all theses people to make the world save,/Concentration Camps" Does that mean you will agree to Hitlers terms hell no , so why agree with the Catalyst if it's doing the same thing as Hitler did, but this time killing Organics/Synthetics but not gassing them but becoming liquid fiend to make new Reapers.
Also does that mean all the dictators have to have a good reason of killing people and making their peoples life like hell. NO! That's what the Catalyst has been doing to the Galaxy EVER SINCE IT WAS CREATED. Did it give a F*** about asking the Organics and Synthetics about not wanting to die? No it killed them, and you know what happened after that.
You became quite active the last days, don't you ?SubAstris wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
Now I'm not convinced that destroy is the only way to break free from indoctrination. With low EMS destroy you still can refuse the brat's choice and he gets mad regardless.
Note that if you choose any option implying the Crucible, the last words of Shep are "Let's finish this" (or something like that), while by refuse she says : "At least I'll die knowing I did everything to stop you".
IMO reject demands even more resolve, note also the added dialogue lines insist on "You can't win conventionally", "You're outpowered" in other words "Choose one of my solutions or you're doomed"
Furthermore, only by reject Harby reveals his true nature (voice change).
How can you tell it's Harbinger and not just a generic Reaper voice? Even if it is Harbinger, the reason he presumably is annoyed is because Shepard hasn't chosen Control or Synthesis (the indoc. options). Surely you would also expect that for destroy?
Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 juin 2012 - 04:37 .
dreamgazer wrote...
Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Yup. It's no surprised no one has bothered responding, though. Godwin's law is the last thing this thread needs.
Strongly agree.
SubAstris wrote...
Silhouett3 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
I understand IT, I am asking you to consider also not just the story implications of IT
Nothing
But I am a fan. Of course my main focus is the fiction itself more than anything. No one can expect me to suddenly enjoy Morinth's -almost insulting- banshee cameo just because she was one of the less popular characters among fan-base. At least retconn a chacter in a proper way right.
What I am trying to say is that too often ITers neglect the implications of their theory in the real world and whether their beliefs about new ending DLC really live up to what a for-profit company would do in such a situation. Making 3 months of pointless dream sequences doesn't constitute sound financial practice
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