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[Dwailing]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

You know, it's funny, the Reapers are ALREADY a fusion of organic and synthetic, and yet they STILL get the same green circuitry effects that all the other races get.

Also, if the synthetics stay synthetic, and the organics become partially synthetic, doesn't that make it sound like everyone became more like the Reapers? 

Modifié par Dwailing, 28 juin 2012 - 05:54 .

[llbountyhunter]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Prove it.

Lair of the Shadow Broker took less time and has more content.

Next.

 I know right? The EC cutscene are probably 300mb at the most ... Im dumbfounded on where exactly those 1.7gigs are....

They are 1.3GB out of 2.3GB (extracted)

Are there perhaps scene not found in EC? Because that seems lIke alot.

I've downloaded entire movies with a good resolition at .5 gigs

Resolution isn't everything. Videos in ME3 are in 720p, depending on how much changes in the scenes file size can vary. Also bink isn't the best when it comes to file size, but it does support good quality, especially if you do upscaling.
Also just did a test so you have something to compare, I binked a random screencap of the ending and also encoded it with H.264 with standard settings for YT.
The binked file is 17.7MB, the other one 5.6MB

True, true, but does it seem like all EC stuff? Maybe they snuck in vids for other dlc. 

Also are the slides in bink format?

[Dwailing]

Well, I'm off for now. See you all later.

[Orph]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

Have you ever seen the guts of a reaper? Maybe they use organic to create a new reaper... maybe organic are the fuel of the new reaper...

[MegumiAzusa]

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Prove it.

Lair of the Shadow Broker took less time and has more content.

Next.

 I know right? The EC cutscene are probably 300mb at the most ... Im dumbfounded on where exactly those 1.7gigs are....

They are 1.3GB out of 2.3GB (extracted)

Are there perhaps scene not found in EC? Because that seems lIke alot.

I've downloaded entire movies with a good resolition at .5 gigs

Resolution isn't everything. Videos in ME3 are in 720p, depending on how much changes in the scenes file size can vary. Also bink isn't the best when it comes to file size, but it does support good quality, especially if you do upscaling.
Also just did a test so you have something to compare, I binked a random screencap of the ending and also encoded it with H.264 with standard settings for YT.
The binked file is 17.7MB, the other one 5.6MB

True, true, but does it seem like all EC stuff? Maybe they snuck in vids for other dlc. 

Also are the slides in bink format?

No they didn't snuck in anything, and yes the slides are in bink format as you can also see as there are some moving elements.

[Judas Bock]

Hi everyone.

I'll just repost what I previously most clearly posted in another thread:

One of the points in IT is how a lot of what happens on the Citadel can be seen as being based on Shepard's memories (Shadowbroker ship, Saren/TIM suicide), and in the EC I noticed a new memory-based snippet.

The new scene where you actually see Shepard arrive on the Citadel, he teleports out of a device and flies in an arc onto the ground, and this arrival to me seemed very similar to how the Mako arrives on the Citadel
in ME1.

The mood and even the cutting between angles is similar.

Here are youtube links if anyone's interested in comparing for themselves:

ME1: www.youtube.com/watch (the relevant stuff ends when the Mako has stopped moving, at about 1:33)

ME3: www.youtube.com/watch (the relevant stuff ends when Shepard has stopped moving, at about 3:30)

While not exactly the same, I'd say the similarities are undeniable.

This to me was an obvious new clue to the IT crowd, because the ME team must certainly know of that the IT-ers have talked about these similiarities, and adding a new great similarity can't just be a coincidence, it must have been done on purpose.

(original thread here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12814321)

Any comments on this now that the IT thread seems more willing to discuss IT evidence again?

[llbountyhunter]

Orph wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

Have you ever seen the guts of a reaper? Maybe they use organic to create a new reaper... maybe organic are the fuel of the new reaper...

Yeah I think that too, isn't that what me2 showed us about the reapers anyways?

[MothershipChip]

Lokanaiya wrote...

I think this got lost in the arguing....

Lokanaiya wrote...

I just got a friend of mine who knows absolutely nothing about Mass Effect or even games in general to listen to Harbinger's line right before you get hit, and she says that it really sounded like "Serve us" to her.

Here's what I'm talking about for anyone who doesn't know.

That sounds like "serve us" to me as well. This combined with "SO BE IT" is very interesting indeed. 

[EpyonX3]

Dwailing wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Who says that the EC wasn't planned?  I remember Arian thought that, but I'm not completely sure.  Personally, I'm starting to think that what we got in the EC might have been what they intended originally, it's just that they didn't have the time.  I'm not saying that they necessarily ran out of time, but rather, they decided it would be better to release the endings in the form we saw originally (Prompting speculation.), and then they decided to release the full original endings (So they can claim that they weren't actually changing the endings because this is what they had intended in the first place.) given the amount of time they had to develope them (To prompt even more speculations.).  Remember, they had originally asked for six more months of dev time (June 2012) back when the release date was Holiday 2011, but they only got three months (March 2012).  And when did the EC come out?  In June, three months after the release of ME3, but six months after they had asked for more time.

Edit: I know this may be a little inelegant, but hopefully you'll all understand what I'm getting at.

If EC was planned, we would have seen it much sooner because the scripts, designs of the levels for prerendered scenes and some dialog would have been complete or at least conceptualized. Or, they would have delayed the game another month or two.

But they couldn't delay the game any longer, EA wouldn't let them have any more time.  Also, like I said before, they only said that they were reprioritizing the post-launch single-player DLC.  That doesn't mean they actually stopped developing other DLC, it just means they changed their priorities around slightly.

Let's not forget that it was EA that made the delay, not bioware.

Uh, no, I believe it was Bioware that asked for six months of extra development time, and EA only gave them three.  Not the other way around.  I'm pretty sure that's how the developer/publisher relationship works. 

http://www.cinemable...ayed-31780.html

""Essentially, step by step, [BioWare is] adjusting some of the gameplay
mechanics and some of the features that you'll see at E3 that can put
this into a genre equivalent of shooter-meets-RPG, and essentially
address a far larger market opportunity than Mass Effect 1 did and Mass
Effect 2 began to approach," said Riccitiello.
"

Not always. I'm sure the publisher has a say in what they want in the game or not. If EA want's more market share, they'll make bioware do it. Bioware will if they want their game published.

Uh, that sounds to me like Bioware needed more time to refine the game, actually.

3-6 months to refine gamplay?

[llbountyhunter]

MothershipChip wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

I think this got lost in the arguing....

Lokanaiya wrote...

I just got a friend of mine who knows absolutely nothing about Mass Effect or even games in general to listen to Harbinger's line right before you get hit, and she says that it really sounded like "Serve us" to her.

Here's what I'm talking about for anyone who doesn't know.

That sounds like "serve us" to me as well. This combined with "SO BE IT" is very interesting indeed. 

I thought it said "join us"

[Grubas]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

to become a combination of both. And the reapers can not be a combination of both because the catalyst tried synthesis in different cycles and failed. The reapers are more some sort of a shell to harvest organics.

Modifié par Grubas, 28 juin 2012 - 06:05 .

[paxxton]

LOL. Do you see!? The Catalyst says "So be IT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it's a message from BioWare, a hint !!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are considering IT.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 06:05 .

[EpyonX3]

Riot86 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

*quote pyramide snip*

If EC was planned, we would have seen it much sooner because the scripts, designs of the levels for prerendered scenes and some dialog would have been complete or at least conceptualized. Or, they would have delayed the game another month or two.

The "Low EMS Squadmate death scene" could be found the Final Hours App in a slightly different version than in the Extended Cut (Video).

So at least this cutscene seems to be something BioWare originally planned to be in the game but was left out for some reasons in the final game  (maybe due to the dead line). So it might be possible, that other sequences from the EC were also in an early development stage, but didn't find their way into the game.

I can agree with that. However, I don't think Reject was part of the deal as they could have implemented it just like the other endings.

Also, if the problem was time constraints, then it's perfectly understanble that EC took 3 months to complete.

[llbountyhunter]

Grubas wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

to become a combination of both.

 Actually pathe catalyst says the sythetiwill understand organics ,but reamain synthetics. its even more suspicious that only the reapers remain  unchanged.  Its a win for them, and only for them.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 28 juin 2012 - 06:07 .

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

hey, this help anything at all?

https://twitter.com/...464201645428736

EDIT hope link works

This can help with the Sp File DLC we found in the EC.

Guys highlight the web site and it states the more DLC is on the way so maybe the Leaviathien is what he might be refuering to and maybe more DLC.

Sorry poor grammer on the Reaper's name.

[EpyonX3]

paxxton wrote...

LOL. Do you see!? The Catalyst says "So be IT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it's a message from BioWare, a hint !!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are considering IT.

How?

[BP20125810]

Orph wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

It's more so the combinning of the two.  This is shown by the reapers and geth and EDI changing with the same green glow as everyone else.  My personal fave ending.

BTW, I think I've heard that RENEGADE CONTROL ending is pretty evil.

No, it isn't. Starchild says the synthetic will understand the organic but remain 
synthetic. The organic will "evolve" and become 
synthetic...

The reapers are clearly changed though.  Hence the green lights.  Plus, synthetics not understanding organics was the main reason for the "soultion" because it lead to syntheitcs wipping out organics.  

Also, "understand" can be interpreted in different ways.  In the bible, knowing someone meant that you took them to funky town.  So understand could still mean that synthetics were given organic properties.

Plus, synthesis is the only ending that allows the romancing of a reapers.  Who hasn't wanted to try that.  Although they could be "compensatiting" for something with all that mass genocide.

[MaximizedAction]

masster blaster wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

Hey... wait, what about this whole saving organics stuff?

She would know too, she was partially made with reaper tech/code.

Brought this back up to also help the Non-ITer's about what EDI said.

Hm, interesting. So either the Catalyst is lying or EDI is lying.

[Orph]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Orph wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

Have you ever seen the guts of a reaper? Maybe they use organic to create a new reaper... maybe organic are the fuel of the new reaper...

Yeah I think that too, isn't that what me2 showed us about the reapers anyways?

You saw the organics being processed but you didn't see the baby reaper with skin or muscles... As EDI said, they need the organics to reproduce. Ok, the trees needs minerals to grow up, does it means the trees are minerals?

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. Do you see!? The Catalyst says "So be IT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it's a message from BioWare, a hint !!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are considering IT.

How?

By playing with words. Plus, the Rejection option was clearly added based on fan feedback. Proof: shooting the Catalyst was viral on BSN in March.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 06:08 .

[llbountyhunter]

Orph wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Orph wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

Have you ever seen the guts of a reaper? Maybe they use organic to create a new reaper... maybe organic are the fuel of the new reaper...

Yeah I think that too, isn't that what me2 showed us about the reapers anyways?

You saw the organics being processed but you didn't see the baby reaper with skin or muscles... As EDI said, they need the organics to reproduce. Ok, the trees needs minerals to grow up, does it means the trees are minerals?

I'm saying there part organic, but I don't think the organic part is alive. Its more like.... Humans drink water and are 70% water.... 

[Grubas]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

source or it didnt happen.

The reapers are already an combination, only organics and other synthetics were changed. 

to become a combination of both.

 Actually pathe catalyst says the sythetiwill understand organics ,but reamain synthetics. its even more suspicious that only the reapers remain  unchanged.  Its a win for them, and only for them.

I altered my post. Reapers offer just the hull for harvested organics. The catalyst explained that synthesis failed in past cycles. Therefoe they are not truly synthesised beings.

[llbountyhunter]

BP20125810 wrote...

Orph wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

Orph wrote...

Synthesis.

The synthetic remains synthetic.

The organic becomes synthetic.

Uhm... That's suspicious... ¬¬

It's more so the combinning of the two.  This is shown by the reapers and geth and EDI changing with the same green glow as everyone else.  My personal fave ending.

BTW, I think I've heard that RENEGADE CONTROL ending is pretty evil.

No, it isn't. Starchild says the synthetic will understand the organic but remain 
synthetic. The organic will "evolve" and become 
synthetic...

The reapers are clearly changed though.  Hence the green lights.  Plus, synthetics not understanding organics was the main reason for the "soultion" because it lead to syntheitcs wipping out organics.  

Also, "understand" can be interpreted in different ways.  In the bible, knowing someone meant that you took them to funky town.  So understand could still mean that synthetics were given organic properties.

Plus, synthesis is the only ending that allows the romancing of a reapers.  Who hasn't wanted to try that.  Although they could be "compensatiting" for something with all that mass genocide.

And that's why synthesis makes no sense,.....

[dreamgazer]

MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

Hey... wait, what about this whole saving organics stuff?

She would know too, she was partially made with reaper tech/code.

Brought this back up to also help the Non-ITer's about what EDI said.

Hm, interesting. So either the Catalyst is lying or EDI is lying.

To be fair, it could be argued that the Reapers doing the cycle's bidding could be considered "self-preservation", since it appears to be their sole function.

[paxxton]

The most obvious things are always the easiest to miss. "So be IT."