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FFZero wrote...
Okay I had a friend who works with audio try and get rid of as much of the distortion as possible from the bit where harbinger speaks/growls in the EC and it definitely sounds like ‘serve us’. She's still working on it, once I have something clearer I'll post a link to it.
So the whole talking about metagaming in this thread was just BS??EpyonX3 wrote...
byne wrote...
paxxton wrote...
The most obvious things are always the easiest to miss. "So be IT."
Paxxton. 'It' is actually a word. I dont know if you're aware of that. Unless IT is randomly all caps in subtitles (which it isnt), you're just grasping at straws and look really stupid. Even if you're just joking.
Ah Ah....Emergency Induction Ports...
Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 06:46 .
He's right. Shepard's helmet doesn't have an Alliance symblol on it. Moreover, doesn'tMaximizedAction wrote...
robdunnhill wrote...
< anyone seen the LOW EMS destroy ending? on 34 mins they find Shepard's Helmet on earth(loves clutching at "straws")
His helmet doesn't have the Alliance symbol on it.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
I've been noticing that a lot lately. Like how everyone in synthesis have eyes from the Overlord DLC. Citadel parts from the Shadow Broker DLC. Major hints from Arrival DLC. I'm noticing a trend. I wonder what we'll find in the Leviathan DLC?byne wrote...
DJBare wrote...
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure he is saying "help us"; cannot make out the first word but if I took a wild guess I'd say "Shepard"; so the sentence ends up "Shepard, help us!"Salient Archer wrote...
Has anyone been able to clearly work out what Harbinger says here: http://youtu.be/BeGZOSK1OFw?t=1m55s
To me it sounds like "serve us" but as we aren't offered any subtitles to clarify it I'd be interested to hear it isolated without the background noise. So if anyone has the means to unpack the EC and hunt down those audio files let me know because I'm damn curious as to what Harby-pants actually says.
I'll admit bias in what I'm hearing because of the things the AI said, like turning it's creators into reapers against their will.
PS, note I call it an AI now, it's actually become difficult for me to consider this "thing" having a name.
If Harby really is saying help us, thats interesting. It'd be yet another thing that suspiciously resembles a past event.
Plus, why would he suddenly change his voice? He gets angry because Shepard rejected the attempted indoctrination.paxxton wrote...
LOL. Do you see!? The Catalyst says "So be it." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it's a message from BioWare, a hint !!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are considering IT and wink to the IT community by playing with words. Plus, the Rejection option was clearly added based on fan feedback. Proof: shooting the Catalyst was viral on BSN in March.
BioWare added the Rejection option in the EC because they see the potential in IT but to not give it away completely they camouflaged it in the Catalyst's short answer. Adding the bassy voice further distracts the player from the actual meaning because you concentrate on the sudden change in his voice rather than on discovering what it might mean that he says.
The most obvious things are always the easiest to miss. "So be IT."
Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 07:07 .
masster blaster wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
@ Byne
Here's some stuff:
How does anyone live through this without armor and a helmet?
Also, the white light "dream transition effect is very telling that the ending could be a combination of a dream and being somehow mentally linked to some reaper somehow.
Dreams
http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing
Shepard in Geth consensus
The ending
Also, look at Shepards eyes when he chooses either control or synthesize
Reposting for justice
i know that this is very old but if it's the same Breath scene in the EC then look at the Mako in the not EC.
Well actualy Sub it could be but ya I don't know..
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Sorry Byne, the bag would fall at the same rate. Part of the reason Shepard didn't die (kind of) before is because that planet's atmosphere is thin (little friction) and it had low gravity (Shepard would fall slower and friction would be reduced even more).byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
EpyonX3 wrote...
FFZero wrote...
Okay I had a friend who works with audio try and get rid of as much of the distortion as possible from the bit where harbinger speaks/growls in the EC and it definitely sounds like ‘serve us’. She's still working on it, once I have something clearer I'll post a link to it.
Can she adjust the pitch of the So Be It line aswell? If the pitch can be reverse and it's indeed the catalyst's voice just deeper then we can rule out harbinger.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
He's right. Shepard's helmet doesn't have an Alliance symblol on it. Moreover, doesn'tMaximizedAction wrote...
robdunnhill wrote...
< anyone seen the LOW EMS destroy ending? on 34 mins they find Shepard's Helmet on earth
His helmet doesn't have the Alliance symbol on it.
Shepard's helmet always "fall off" when he gets lased?
Good catch. I'm sure there are many more.Judas Bock wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
I've been noticing that a lot lately. Like how everyone in synthesis have eyes from the Overlord DLC. Citadel parts from the Shadow Broker DLC. Major hints from Arrival DLC. I'm noticing a trend. I wonder what we'll find in the Leviathan DLC?byne wrote...
DJBare wrote...
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure he is saying "help us"; cannot make out the first word but if I took a wild guess I'd say "Shepard"; so the sentence ends up "Shepard, help us!"Salient Archer wrote...
Has anyone been able to clearly work out what Harbinger says here: http://youtu.be/BeGZOSK1OFw?t=1m55s
To me it sounds like "serve us" but as we aren't offered any subtitles to clarify it I'd be interested to hear it isolated without the background noise. So if anyone has the means to unpack the EC and hunt down those audio files let me know because I'm damn curious as to what Harby-pants actually says.
I'll admit bias in what I'm hearing because of the things the AI said, like turning it's creators into reapers against their will.
PS, note I call it an AI now, it's actually become difficult for me to consider this "thing" having a name.
If Harby really is saying help us, thats interesting. It'd be yet another thing that suspiciously resembles a past event.
Also the new scene of Shep arriving at the Citadel which is very similar to the Mako arriving at the Citadel in ME1 (discussed here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12814321/1).
DJBare wrote...
What confuses me is I got the breath scene with only 3810 EMS, never got that before the EC, always had to do 4000 or above, now it's lower?robdunnhill wrote...
< anyone seen the LOW EMS destroy ending? on 34 mins they find Shepard's Helmet on earth
It all depends of the surface area of the 2 objects. I would imagine a piece of "space metal" would have more surface area than a bag...Andromidius wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Sorry Byne, the bag would fall at the same rate. Part of the reason Shepard didn't die (kind of) before is because that planet's atmosphere is thin (little friction) and it had low gravity (Shepard would fall slower and friction would be reduced even more).byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
Actually, the bag would fall slower due to air resistance. It would be like a very crude parachute.
Exactly. It's not Shepard's helmet.Turbo_J wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
He's right. Shepard's helmet doesn't have an Alliance symblol on it. Moreover, doesn'tMaximizedAction wrote...
robdunnhill wrote...
< anyone seen the LOW EMS destroy ending? on 34 mins they find Shepard's Helmet on earth
His helmet doesn't have the Alliance symbol on it.
Shepard's helmet always "fall off" when he gets lased?
My Shep does not wear a helmet at all in London.
Where is the helmet from?
Where is Shepard's helmet from the Normandy SR1 crash that was sitting on his/her desk?
masster blaster wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
This is the Breathing scene, and now I want you to watch closely.
You can tell from one of the Concrete that that's an Alliance/Earth human symbolism.
Also if you look very closely you can see a Mako right behind the metal structure.
Then lastly we see Shepard not Vega, because it was conferred a long time ago that Vega was not in the Breath scene.
But it looks to Shepard is surrounded by Concrete like we all have said, but is isn't it weird that in the Low EMS of Destroy an Alliance Soldier so happens to pull a Helmet out of a hep of rubble.
Granted that is not Shepard's helmet but it's weird that in high EMS in Destroy we see Shepard in a hep of Rubble and i ask this because why isn't Shepard on the Citadel in Space since the Citadel did not fall to Earth.
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Ya TWO YEARS and He was inrentry when it happened too/Oxygen loss, and Remember Tempreture also in rentrey would have cooked Shepard for good espacailly if it's metal. Also seriusly a peace of rubble back to Earth I think Shepard would have been in floting in Space then fallinf to Earth because gravity would have pulled Shepard down if Shepard was floting in Space.
byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
Exept in Inception there was no actual mystery. It's just there to make you think there is one.BP20125810 wrote...
byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
Actually, even though I don't believe in IT, I find that the Shepard wake up scene is the most vital pice of evidence that I don't have "water tight" evidence against. Besides the change in the memoiral scene, which shows their is a possiblity of a reunion, the scene sticks out like a sore thumb. WHY is this scene shown after everything else? I mean, Shepard's breath scene is shown even after the rebuilding, which is going to take months at least. Is this Bioware's little input to say that maybe everything was a dream and the EC just details that dream a little more. Bioware kept this the way it is, because they WANT people to keep guessing. There will be NO MORE ENDING DLC, evident in the many Bioware Developer posts stating such. They want debate to continue, because Mass Effect 3 will live on in that debate, even after the final DLC hits the shelf.
My belief is that the wake up scene is akin to the spinner scene in Inception. While there will not be any more clarification from the developer, the debate must go on.
Basica
Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juin 2012 - 07:00 .
BP20125810 wrote...
byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
Actually, even though I don't believe in IT, I find that the Shepard wake up scene is the most vital pice of evidence that I don't have "water tight" evidence against. Besides the change in the memoiral scene, which shows their is a possiblity of a reunion, the scene sticks out like a sore thumb. WHY is this scene shown after everything else? I mean, Shepard's breath scene is shown even after the rebuilding, which is going to take months at least. Is this Bioware's little input to say that maybe everything was a dream and the EC just details that dream a little more. Bioware kept this the way it is, because they WANT people to keep guessing. There will be NO MORE ENDING DLC, evident in the many Bioware Developer posts stating such. They want debate to continue, because Mass Effect 3 will live on in that debate, even after the final DLC hits the shelf.
My belief is that the wake up scene is akin to the spinner scene in Inception. While there will not be any more clarification from the developer, the debate must go on.
Basica
No amount of ECs will explain that from a literal POV.MrT493 wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
Actually, even though I don't believe in IT, I find that the Shepard wake up scene is the most vital pice of evidence that I don't have "water tight" evidence against. Besides the change in the memoiral scene, which shows their is a possiblity of a reunion, the scene sticks out like a sore thumb. WHY is this scene shown after everything else? I mean, Shepard's breath scene is shown even after the rebuilding, which is going to take months at least. Is this Bioware's little input to say that maybe everything was a dream and the EC just details that dream a little more. Bioware kept this the way it is, because they WANT people to keep guessing. There will be NO MORE ENDING DLC, evident in the many Bioware Developer posts stating such. They want debate to continue, because Mass Effect 3 will live on in that debate, even after the final DLC hits the shelf.
My belief is that the wake up scene is akin to the spinner scene in Inception. While there will not be any more clarification from the developer, the debate must go on.
Basica
Yeah the only issue is that I dont think there can be much debate about the breath scene- Shepard isnt superman, how is it at all possible for him to survive that citadel explosion when he is right at the centre of it??
I think what you're trying to say is it takes more EMS for Shepard to live in destroy than to unlock synthesis? That is interesting because it goes against synthesis being implied as the best option.masster blaster wrote...
Oh and I forgot that you unlock Synthesis first after you get Destroy and Control not including refuse/reject because it's in all EMS high, or LOW EMS, but then if you go Higher you get Shepard lives in Destroy and that is after unlocking Synthesis.
BP20125810 wrote...
My belief is that the wake up scene is akin to the spinner scene in Inception. While there will not be any more clarification from the developer, the debate must go on.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Exept in Inception there was no actual mystery. It's just there to make you think there is one.BP20125810 wrote...
byne wrote...
BP20125810 wrote...
The citadel is clearly damaged badly after destroy, but the damage is abled to be repaired, so I believe that the higher EMS means the crucible was in better shape, which means the blast is more controlled. A more controlled blast allows shepard to ride a piece of the rubble back to earth. It may sound a bit far fetched, but this is the guy who was revived after dieing.
Right. And she died due to what? Oh right! Reentry to a planet's atmosphere! And at that time she was wearing fully intact armor and not injured in anyway.
'Riding' a piece of rubble doesnt even make sense. It'd still be falling super fast when it hit the ground. Its not like space metal falls at the same rate of speed as an empty plastic bag.
Actually, even though I don't believe in IT, I find that the Shepard wake up scene is the most vital pice of evidence that I don't have "water tight" evidence against. Besides the change in the memoiral scene, which shows their is a possiblity of a reunion, the scene sticks out like a sore thumb. WHY is this scene shown after everything else? I mean, Shepard's breath scene is shown even after the rebuilding, which is going to take months at least. Is this Bioware's little input to say that maybe everything was a dream and the EC just details that dream a little more. Bioware kept this the way it is, because they WANT people to keep guessing. There will be NO MORE ENDING DLC, evident in the many Bioware Developer posts stating such. They want debate to continue, because Mass Effect 3 will live on in that debate, even after the final DLC hits the shelf.
My belief is that the wake up scene is akin to the spinner scene in Inception. While there will not be any more clarification from the developer, the debate must go on.
Basica
Edit: I get your point though.
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