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[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Anyone who didn't buy or play Arrival is either too stuck up to buy "DLC" or too much of a Jew to spend the money for it. They said it was important for ME3. That alone should warrant the purchase. The fact Bioware made it technically not important is a load of bull and should patch that out. Enough ranting, I have always said Arrival is the only real proof of IT that you can't dismiss either way.

It is strange that some people are invested enough in the franchise to argue about it on forums, but not invested enough to buy a fairly cheap and plot important DLC.

Especially after "completing" ME3.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[DJBare]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
-snip-
Go ahead, enlarge it, and tell me if the circled area reminds you of a particular thing that we have been guessing about, what it was...

The rubble? Lends credence to the idea that some of the rubble is from the conduit.

Or Shep never left the asteroid.

*shudders* if the entirety of ME3 turns out to be an illusion, I would not want to be around these forums when the backlash hits, no wait, I would want to be here, it would be quite entertaining, even surpassing the ending furore.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
-snip-
Go ahead, enlarge it, and tell me if the circled area reminds you of a particular thing that we have been guessing about, what it was...

The rubble? Lends credence to the idea that some of the rubble is from the conduit.

Or Shep never left the asteroid.

It could be defended but I doubt BioWare intended it.

Yeah, I'm also rooting for the rubble. The inner, lower spikes of the London conduit have a similar architecture as the Arrival artifact (unfortunatelly, I have no high res pics of the conduit to back that up), but are less curved.

Shepard never have left the asteroid would nullify all stories that happened on ME3 i feel, and that would seem like a waste of resources for BW.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 20 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Have Literalist been able to completely debunk the Breath Scene yet? As far as I'm concerned, we have too much proof it's on Earth and outside the Conduit with the Reaper War still going on. Right?

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
-snip-
Go ahead, enlarge it, and tell me if the circled area reminds you of a particular thing that we have been guessing about, what it was...

The rubble? Lends credence to the idea that some of the rubble is from the conduit.

Or Shep never left the asteroid.

It could be defended but I doubt BioWare intended it.

Yeah, I'm also rooting for the rubble. The inner, lower spikes of the London conduit have a similar architecture as the Arrival artifact (unfortunatelly, I have no high res pics of the conduit to back that up), but are less curved.

Shepard never have left the asteroid would nullify all stories that happened on ME3 i feel, and that would seem like a waste of resources for BW.

The problem with the rubble is that the Alpha Relay went supernova that would destroy Object Rho. How did it reappear (even in parts) on Earth billions of light years away? Did it jump before the explosion?

Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 03:59 .

[OneWithTheAssassins]

@UrgentArchengel Not that I've seen no.

Modifié par OneWithTheAssassins, 20 mai 2012 - 03:47 .

[Lokanaiya]

This has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

[MegumiAzusa]

Just saw, the dream plants are also on Tuchanka in the green region.

[RavenEyry]

Lokanaiya wrote...

This has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

It's possible that Liara's 'gift' helped Shep resist the indoctrination. Apart from that, I've got nothing.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Just saw, the dream plants are also on Tuchanka in the green region.

Very nice!  What about Sur'Kesh?

Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 03:57 .

[DJBare]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Just saw, the dream plants are also on Tuchanka in the green region.

Yup, all can point to a case of reused assets.

[UrgentArchengel]

Lokanaiya wrote...

This has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

It's a bug, and Bioware is too lazy to fix it.

[DJBare]

Lokanaiya wrote...

This has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

It has to be a random bug, Ashley appeared in my flashbacks.

[paxxton]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

This has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

It's a bug, and Bioware is too lazy to fix it.

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Miranda was too busy with her implants. Too bad.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 04:11 .

[MegumiAzusa]

DJBare wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

This has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

It has to be a random bug, Ashley appeared in my flashbacks.

No they only did these flashbacks for Liara, Ash, and Kaidan. (+Joker and Anderson who are always there) seems Liara is a fallback if another LI is picked.

[UrgentArchengel]

Quiet today on the boards.

[Big Bad]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Quiet today on the boards.

A little...too quiet.

[balance5050]

Big Bad wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Quiet today on the boards.

A little...too quiet.

BLAM!! red laser out of no where!!!! 



....sorry.

[TSA_383]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Right so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a 30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the actual issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Or the original endings before the sligth changes?  Speculations at full power!

Just thought I'd quote this again - does someone have a link for these "clues"?
I'd really like to take a look ASAP.

Vox Draco wrote...

*sigh* I hate this thread...and the other closed one too...

Just when I thougt I might have made my peace with the ending and buried IT as never intended/never planned etc...

well...then
I read some stuff like that from Arian Dynas and...I am all the way
back on hoping Bioware actually tricked us all and Shepard will be back
for a final round...

It just makes so much good sense, sounds so good and would be truly awesome! *sigh*...

But about that ANN stuff...when exactly would it "sync" with realtime? Is that even predictable?

Not really, they wouldn't announce said multiplayer event until the relevant DLC was ready to go.

Out of curiosity, what would you make of a Mass Effect themed MMO - it'd be an interesting one...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Have Literalist been able to
completely debunk the Breath Scene yet? As far as I'm concerned, we
have too much proof it's on Earth and outside the Conduit with the
Reaper War still going on. Right?

Nope, but "Bioware is stupid" and "artistic integrity" are still pretty popular phrases...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

This
has probably already been discussed, but did anyone figure out why
Liara and not your LI appears in the flashbacks when you make your
choice? I think the explanation before was Bioware laziness, but given
all we've found, I don't think that works anymore.

It's a bug, and Bioware is too lazy to fix it.

Not even a bug, the Liara video is the only one they made... Makes sense with her being the only character from either ME1 or ME2 still guaranteed to be alive by this point though...

[WizzyWarlock]

Okay, so I just finished my full playthrough from ME1 to ME3 and after watching it and knowing what I know now, I think it's an Indoctrination attempt, but not in the same lines that people have been saying. I think what happened actually happened. Shepard made it to the beam, shot a few things, went up to the Citadel, reached the console, passed out for a while then pressed a button causing the Crucible to fire.

In between all that, the Reapers were trying to indoctrinate her. Anderson and the Illusive Man were never really there, they were parts of Shepards personality that were appearing as 'ghosts'. Remember in the description of indoctrination in the journal, it says that you see ghosts and can betray your friends and befriend your enemies. Anderson was Shepards good side who, under the indoctrination attempt, was being strangled, while the bad side, TIM, was trying to convince Shepard that Control was the way forward.

To prove the power of indoctrination, Shepard is forced to shoot Anderson, which is actually just a part of her personality. So when the argument with TIM is over, Shepard is actually bleeding in the same location as she had really shot herself. When all is done, the good and the bad are both gone, leaving Shepard in a neutral state.

This is where Shepard sees the starkid and is told about the options. Shepard, against character, doesn't question the child because of her neutral state, any good or bad has been indoctrinated out of her so she can only see the possibilities without emotion getting in the way. There are still some real problems with the ending, especially the final scene with the Normandy and the planet - like, how did Garrus get on there when he was running down the hill with me? But I can see what they were trying to do, it just doesn't entirely work.

[MegumiAzusa]

TSA_383 wrote...

Not even a bug, the Liara video is the only one they made... Makes sense with her being the only character from either ME1 or ME2 still guaranteed to be alive by this point though...

Liara, Ash, and Kaidan

[MegumiAzusa]

Just did Tuchanka in my third playthrough.
As I said before on my first Aequitas was marked after Thessia. On my second it's marked after Rannoch until Thessia. Now it's marked just after finishing Tuchanka. I am pretty sure it will cease when I do Thessia this time.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Not even a bug, the Liara video is the only one they made... Makes sense with her being the only character from either ME1 or ME2 still guaranteed to be alive by this point though...

Liara, Ash, and Kaidan

I really hope they fix that with the EC DLC. I want my Tali flashback...

[D.Sharrah]

Reading through some of this just reminded me of some of the scenes from "Fight Club"...in particular the ending sequence where Edward Norton Jr. shoots himself through the cheek in order to "kill" Brad Pitt (this of course relating to the Anderson shot/Shepard clutching the wound thing)...

@ AD, you marketing timeline theory is brillant!

I agree with most here that IT seems more and more plausible each day that evidence is teased out of the game, and find it hard to believe/understand that there are still people that do want to even give IT a second thought.

As fas as the highlighted portion of the architecture from Object Rho, I think what the poster was trying to get at (and I could be wrong), is that the unindentified piece of rubble looks eerily similar to the structure of reaper tech/artifact that was clearly capable of indoctrination...perhaps Shepard does cause something to actually blow-up and what it was that device - the last "dream" imgaes that we see are a last ditch indoctrination effort to place fear/doubt in Shepard's unconscious mind - which (if EMS is low enough) results in Shepard not having the willpower to go on, hence no "breath scene".

[blooregard]

I don't know what the current status of the foliage is but after looking around in one of the dream sequences I noticed most of the plants that are on gilligan's planet in the dream. I can't do much to show you but feel free to check yourself the tall grass plant and the leaves are there I need to see dream_foliage again but I think those were the two major things.