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[Domanese]

Cecilia L wrote...

I just put forth an IT argument in another thread, thought I'd put it in here although it is probably already discussed:

Geigerstorm wrote...

I so very hope a Reunion DLC is in the works. When Tali (my LI during my EC playthrough) held that placard in her hands but wouldn't place it on the memorial, my heart skipped a bit. She knew -- she felt -- I was still alive.

But how would LI know shep was alive? They should think she's dead regardless of the breath scene.

So if it is an IT hallicination,
1. no breath) Shep knows she is dying and therefore imagines LI grieving her and putting her name on the wall
OR
2. breath scene) Shepard feels she can make it, she imagines that LI will not give up but come looking for her.

Thoughts?

Hellish? TSA have any of you looked for infrasound in the expanded endings?

[Cecilia L]

FellishBeast wrote...

Cecilia L wrote...

I just put forth an IT argument in another thread, thought I'd put it in here although it is probably already discussed:

Geigerstorm wrote...

I so very hope a Reunion DLC is in the works. When Tali (my LI during my EC playthrough) held that placard in her hands but wouldn't place it on the memorial, my heart skipped a bit. She knew -- she felt -- I was still alive.

But how would LI know shep was alive? They should think she's dead regardless of the breath scene.

So if it is an IT hallicination,
1. no breath) Shep knows she is dying and therefore imagines LI grieving her and putting her name on the wall
OR
2. breath scene) Shepard feels she can make it, she imagines that LI will not give up but come looking for her.

Thoughts?

According to IT the breath is the only thing at the end that isn't a hallucination, so I'ma say no.

That's just what I meant. I was offering an explanation to hallucinating different LI grieves Shepard scenes.

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh crap remember what Hackett said to Shepard in the response of Shepard asking " why pick me"

Hackett says look you can pay a soldier to run down a hill but you can't pay them to believe.

I am going to try to find the video like so i can get my fact's straight but just think about it.

What I was trying to say was

" You can pay someone to play a game but you can't make them belive in what happended at the end."

Don't you see watch hackett's speech to Shepard about How everyone said that's crazy to do all the stuff Shepard was going to do but Shepard's squad/crew belived in him/her.

Which makes my wonder IT people think it's crazy, or the Literaly ending people think it's crazy.



Watch it and reply back to me please.

[TJBartlemus]

Well, I am mildly surprised that no one has posted on my thread. I thought at least someone would have an opinion. What about you guys? I have been with this thread for a while and I know that you guys are very intelligent people that think things through. So here is a link. Please comment!!

http://social.biowar.../index/12841666

Also vote on the poll. So far it has had mostly positive feedback.

Regarding the Leviathan DLC, I remember that Michael Gamble said that he has played some new single player dlc. That was before the discovery of this, so could Leviathan possibly be out soon?

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 28 juin 2012 - 08:13 .

[dreamgazer]

clennon8 wrote...

Very quickly, I want to address the strange mechanical sound that we hear when Shepard wakes up on the Citadel. I have heard a very convincing argument that the sound is Shepard's implants restarting his heart. In other words, he died when he hit the beam and his implants revived him upon arrival. This could also explain why he ended up in a different place than Anderson. Corpses go to one location, living people go to another.

Not saying it's absolutely correct, but it seems quite plausible to me. Shepard does appear to sort of jolt awake in that scene.  It's plausible enough that I wouldn't count that sound as evidence for IT. It probably serves better as evidence for other theories.

Yeah, it both serves a pragmatic purpose and a figurative purpose: it's a reminder that Shepard is synthetic, it's a reminder that Shepard's on death's doorstep, and it's also a very pointed "shake awake" moment that could be the starting point of a mental framework. I lean towards the first two and indulge the third, currently, but ultimately I definitely buy into the idea of it being an internal resuscitation unit. 

Now, the Harbinger "Serve Us" soundbite? THAT is interesting. I want to hear more about that. I'm waiting for someone to clean it up, pitch-change it or whatever, and PROVE that's what Harby is saying. It's a very strong clue.

"(GARBLE-GARBLE) US".  It could be serve us, it could be save us, it could be join us, and, hell, it could be forgive us.  I think BioWare's sound designers specifically meant to punctuate the "us", though, and make people speculate on what the other word sounds like.  In any event, I think it plays into the nature of the Normandy rescue sequence, and why Harbinger "allowed" the crew to linger before Shepard went up the chute.  

Modifié par dreamgazer, 28 juin 2012 - 08:28 .

[robdunnhill]

quick question, on the destroy ending, the starchild says tech can be easilly fixed.... does that mean the geth and EDI can be 'fixed' ?

[masster blaster]

Wait who was the person that said Bioware has visited the IT before, and posted it a few pages back.

[dreamgazer]

szkasypcze wrote...

I will give you another one guys....

SO BE IT....

just focus on the last word.

I knew it:  BioWare have resorted to product placement. 

[dreamgazer]

robdunnhill wrote...

quick question, on the destroy ending, the starchild says tech can be easilly fixed.... does that mean the geth and EDI can be 'fixed' ?

You can fix anything mechanical if you have the tools, but the real question comes in whether you can recreate a soul/conscious if they haven't lived through the same experiences.  I think not.

[EpyonX3]

robdunnhill wrote...

quick question, on the destroy ending, the starchild says tech can be easilly fixed.... does that mean the geth and EDI can be 'fixed' ?

I don't remember that but it still goes back to what I said earlier. If they could repair the Normandy, why not EDI? Edi was the ship essentially. Maybe she loses her body but at least she's alive. Same for the geth. Couldn't there be servers with geth underground and not affected by red wave of death? They may not have bodies but they still exist in some form.

[masster blaster]

robdunnhill wrote...

quick question, on the destroy ending, the starchild says tech can be easilly fixed.... does that mean the geth and EDI can be 'fixed' ?

WAIT does that mean EDI , the geth and Shepard ARE TO SUPPOST TO DISSAPER because the husk did and so do some Reapers.

Also maybe since the end has Shepard breathing.

[Semi-Sweet Serpent Charmer]

I love you guys.

[BansheeOwnage]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Well, I am mildly surprised that no one has posted on my thread. I thought at least someone would have an opinion. What about you guys? I have been with this thread for a while and I know that you guys are very intelligent people that think things through. So here is a link. Please comment!!

http://social.biowar.../index/12841666

Also vote on the poll. So far it has had mostly positive feedback.

Regarding the Leviathan DLC, I remember that Michael Gamble said that he has played some new single player dlc. That was before the discovery of this, so could Leviathan possibly be out soon?

According to the leak, it seems like the script is done already. So the whole Bioware team wasn't actually working on EC for the last 3 months! 
Which makes sense if you think about it. No way the EC is a product of 3 months of dedication from an entire dev team.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juin 2012 - 08:27 .

[TSA_383]

Domanese wrote...

Cecilia L wrote...

I just put forth an IT argument in another thread, thought I'd put it in here although it is probably already discussed:

Geigerstorm wrote...

I so very hope a Reunion DLC is in the works. When Tali (my LI during my EC playthrough) held that placard in her hands but wouldn't place it on the memorial, my heart skipped a bit. She knew -- she felt -- I was still alive.

But how would LI know shep was alive? They should think she's dead regardless of the breath scene.

So if it is an IT hallicination,
1. no breath) Shep knows she is dying and therefore imagines LI grieving her and putting her name on the wall
OR
2. breath scene) Shepard feels she can make it, she imagines that LI will not give up but come looking for her.

Thoughts?

Hellish? TSA have any of you looked for infrasound in the expanded endings?

Actually, yes.
It's there at a fairly high level in the "SO BE IT" line (like, really quite high).
But, at this point I don't know if that's entirely relevant.

I'm more along the lines of interested in whether they'll be adding to the ending with the Leviathan DLC and other such things, but if things are left as they stand then I'll think twice before buying Bioware games in future, for the sake of my mental health

[TSA_383]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Well, I am mildly surprised that no one has posted on my thread. I thought at least someone would have an opinion. What about you guys? I have been with this thread for a while and I know that you guys are very intelligent people that think things through. So here is a link. Please comment!!

http://social.biowar.../index/12841666

Also vote on the poll. So far it has had mostly positive feedback.

Regarding the Leviathan DLC, I remember that Michael Gamble said that he has played some new single player dlc. That was before the discovery of this, so could Leviathan possibly be out soon?

According to the leak, it seems like the script is done already. So the whole Bioware team wasn't actually working on EC for the last 3 months! 
Which makes sense if you think about it. No way the EC is a product of 3 months of dedication from an entire dev team.

True. I understand it's had some QA issues and such, but it's maybe a few weeks worth, perhaps 6 weeks tops.
But also, you don't hire your VA's back and then not have them record lines for the other DLCs you're planning, so those scripts are done well in advance.

[Orph]

Guys, what if the Harbinger says "save us" and the rumor about the rogue reaper is true? Maybe the civilizations harvested are conscious inside the reaper but imprisoned by the reaper logic?
Bah, it makes no sense.

[BansheeOwnage]

TSA_383 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Well, I am mildly surprised that no one has posted on my thread. I thought at least someone would have an opinion. What about you guys? I have been with this thread for a while and I know that you guys are very intelligent people that think things through. So here is a link. Please comment!!

http://social.biowar.../index/12841666

Also vote on the poll. So far it has had mostly positive feedback.

Regarding the Leviathan DLC, I remember that Michael Gamble said that he has played some new single player dlc. That was before the discovery of this, so could Leviathan possibly be out soon?

According to the leak, it seems like the script is done already. So the whole Bioware team wasn't actually working on EC for the last 3 months! 
Which makes sense if you think about it. No way the EC is a product of 3 months of dedication from an entire dev team.

True. I understand it's had some QA issues and such, but it's maybe a few weeks worth, perhaps 6 weeks tops.
But also, you don't hire your VA's back and then not have them record lines for the other DLCs you're planning, so those scripts are done well in advance.

Which reminds me. It seems like a waste to bring in all the VA's besides Shepards and have them say what? 1-5 lines?

[smokingotter1]

TSA_383 wrote...

Domanese wrote...

Cecilia L wrote...

I just put forth an IT argument in another thread, thought I'd put it in here although it is probably already discussed:

Geigerstorm wrote...

I so very hope a Reunion DLC is in the works. When Tali (my LI during my EC playthrough) held that placard in her hands but wouldn't place it on the memorial, my heart skipped a bit. She knew -- she felt -- I was still alive.

But how would LI know shep was alive? They should think she's dead regardless of the breath scene.

So if it is an IT hallicination,
1. no breath) Shep knows she is dying and therefore imagines LI grieving her and putting her name on the wall
OR
2. breath scene) Shepard feels she can make it, she imagines that LI will not give up but come looking for her.

Thoughts?

Hellish? TSA have any of you looked for infrasound in the expanded endings?

Actually, yes.
It's there at a fairly high level in the "SO BE IT" line (like, really quite high).
But, at this point I don't know if that's entirely relevant.

I'm more along the lines of interested in whether they'll be adding to the ending with the Leviathan DLC and other such things, but if things are left as they stand then I'll think twice before buying Bioware games in future, for the sake of my mental health

I believe in IT but I have a bad feeling that we will never see a reunion DLC for ME3 but IT fans will get their answer 10 years from now when Casey Hudson gives a tell all interview.

I just keep thinking "Battlestar Galattica" with all the hints and details thinking "oh boy I can't wait for them to explain this and that and why Starbuck came back to life in a brand new Viper for some reason!"

Ronald Moore: "Best I can do is a big NOPE"

[UrgedDuke]

dreamgazer wrote...

szkasypcze wrote...

I will give you another one guys....

SO BE IT....

just focus on the last word.

I knew it:  BioWare have resorted to product placement. 

Yvonne Strahovski was in that one sobe commercial

Modifié par UrgedDuke, 28 juin 2012 - 08:37 .

[balance5050]

Refusal ending FTW!!

Let this cycle go down fighting with dignity and honor so the next cycle can use Liaras plans and nip the reaper problem in the bud. No choice is ideal but I won't forsake my morals and I won't agree with a broken AI's "solution".

[TSA_383]

SO

Got an interesting message, someone pointing out that harbinger has extra lines in the low-ems destroy ending:



~2:05, sounds like "they can't help you" to me on first listen, and I swear he has a different line right before the blast too, it's got to be "join us"...

It's curious... That and shep's reaction to the squadmates getting vaporised.

[MilitanT07]

I posted this several times but nobody seems to care.

Shepard eyes become brown when you enter the citidal after the beam regardless of what it was before.

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

SO

Got an interesting message, someone pointing out that harbinger has extra lines in the low-ems destroy ending:



~2:05, sounds like "they can't help you" to me on first listen, and I swear he has a different line right before the blast too, it's got to be "join us"...

It's curious... That and shep's reaction to the squadmates getting vaporised.

His reaction....wow. Now if that isn't breaking him, I don't know what....
Very interesting. That, and Harbinger's 'words'.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 juin 2012 - 08:46 .

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

 I'm not sure everyone saw this - so I'll just double post:

http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Remember IN  ME1 each Reapar is Independent so ya this is a big clue for IT espacially Harby goes missing.

[MaximizedAction]

MilitanT07 wrote...

I posted this several times but nobody seems to care.

Shepard eyes become brown when you enter the citidal after the beam regardless of what it was before.

EDIT: Sheploo's blue eyes are perfectly blue up at the Catalyst's. But before that...
His eyes seem to be normal again, when looking at Earth. But before that the eyes' color seems to be altered by the surrounding light. Interestingly, same happens with the color of the Corridor part on the Citadel, when those doors open up.

The color dimming might have interesting implications, as everything seems so colorless when TIM's around.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 juin 2012 - 08:55 .