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[jgibson14352]

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

[Andromidius]

plfranke wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

you aren't discouraged by that andromidus?

No.  Firstly I don't know who that is.  Secondly IT doesn't require post-ending DLC.  And thirdly I take whatever people claiming to know what's coming with a massive grain of salt based on previous things said that were untrue.  And lastly I have to ask why Bioware would EVER spoil what's coming up next, because admitting nothing is coming after the ending would ruin potential for the future DLC's sales.

So no.  Not in the slightest.

[Andromidius]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Well if you take this all at face value, that's fine.

But the fact is, the question was never answered and more hints were thrown to support a non-literal ending.

So whoever this guy is, I don't much care.  They said they were leaving it open to interpretation, and they did.  So why would they then send someone who isn't well known to declare otherwise?  They wouldn't.

Not unless you think Bioware is REALLY stupid.

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I'm going to screw around with the "SO BE IT" audio and try to figure out who's speaking. I've had some succes in the past.

I'm curious, was this dialogue cut? 'Cause if so, BW screwed up BIG TIME by removing it.

Yeah sorry for not saying what it is. It's Geth Prime dialogue (though clearly legion's VA ) that was cut from the end. This implies a lot of things, including the fact that they were going to have the Prime there as well as Tali. Why they removed it is beyond me, unless you know they didn't want us to think organics could ever live with synthetics and buy into starkid's logic. Synergy when we are in consensus.

The combat dialogue pisses me off the most though. Because it means they were also going to have scenes with Quarians and Geth fighting Reapers. Here are some more examples if you're interested.
Grunt:
Jack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AK6vz4_bM&feature=relmfu
Zaeed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJ_QsIVOD0&feature=relmfu
Edit: Incase you missed Anderson's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZsRUEEr-AU

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juin 2012 - 09:33 .

[plfranke]

Andromidius wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

you aren't discouraged by that andromidus?

No.  Firstly I don't know who that is.  Secondly IT doesn't require post-ending DLC.  And thirdly I take whatever people claiming to know what's coming with a massive grain of salt based on previous things said that were untrue.  And lastly I have to ask why Bioware would EVER spoil what's coming up next, because admitting nothing is coming after the ending would ruin potential for the future DLC's sales.

So no.  Not in the slightest.

you're right. I was about to say something to the effect of I don't know how you do it but then I thought that would sound way too much like shepard's squadmates throughout mass effect 3.  lol that would be a funny convo. "You've always stayed so focused on indoctrination theory." "I just think about how horrible the endings would be if I didn't."

[jgibson14352]

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Well if you take this all at face value, that's fine.

But the fact is, the question was never answered and more hints were thrown to support a non-literal ending.

So whoever this guy is, I don't much care.  They said they were leaving it open to interpretation, and they did.  So why would they then send someone who isn't well known to declare otherwise?  They wouldn't.

Not unless you think Bioware is REALLY stupid.

its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I'm going to screw around with the "SO BE IT" audio and try to figure out who's speaking. I've had some succes in the past.

I'm curious, was this dialogue cut? 'Cause if so, BW screwed up BIG TIME by removing it.

There's an audio file in the EC with Anderson's voice saying that with the firepower the Reapers have they coould simply wipe organics out. Then he asks what do they want.

As for the Legion Prime audio, the additional recordings are probably for a future DLC.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 09:39 .

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

you aren't discouraged by that andromidus?

No.  Firstly I don't know who that is.  Secondly IT doesn't require post-ending DLC.  And thirdly I take whatever people claiming to know what's coming with a massive grain of salt based on previous things said that were untrue.  And lastly I have to ask why Bioware would EVER spoil what's coming up next, because admitting nothing is coming after the ending would ruin potential for the future DLC's sales.

So no.  Not in the slightest.

you're right. I was about to say something to the effect of I don't know how you do it but then I thought that would sound way too much like shepard's squadmates throughout mass effect 3.  lol that would be a funny convo. "You've always stayed so focused on indoctrination theory." "I just think about how horrible the endings would be if I didn't."

I think about how mad Liara would be if she saw the endings. WAIT!

[Dwailing]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Well if you take this all at face value, that's fine.

But the fact is, the question was never answered and more hints were thrown to support a non-literal ending.

So whoever this guy is, I don't much care.  They said they were leaving it open to interpretation, and they did.  So why would they then send someone who isn't well known to declare otherwise?  They wouldn't.

Not unless you think Bioware is REALLY stupid.

its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

Uh, Jessica's not a dev, she's the community manager. 

[MaximizedAction]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Well if you take this all at face value, that's fine.

But the fact is, the question was never answered and more hints were thrown to support a non-literal ending.

So whoever this guy is, I don't much care.  They said they were leaving it open to interpretation, and they did.  So why would they then send someone who isn't well known to declare otherwise?  They wouldn't.

Not unless you think Bioware is REALLY stupid.

its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

Yeah, I've yet to see a professional scriptwriter say, "you go ahead and imagine your endings yourself".

Yes, there are endings like LOST's, Sopranos (thank god they didn't do that one), Mulholland Drive, Blade Runner...

With the EC they nearly managed to do a Blade Runner, but IT (in some varieties) doesn't allow a too ambiguous ending, simply because we were promised an ending to the war.

So IT is a very special kind of 'arty' ending, as in, it's nature doesn't allow it, as it would just leave the ending hanging. The original ending somehow did this. The EC however...

This EC is actually strange, because they altered the ending so much (not THAT much, but still a lot) that it makes me question the purpose of the original ending...
was it a test?

[Dwailing]

plfranke wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

you aren't discouraged by that andromidus?

No.  Firstly I don't know who that is.  Secondly IT doesn't require post-ending DLC.  And thirdly I take whatever people claiming to know what's coming with a massive grain of salt based on previous things said that were untrue.  And lastly I have to ask why Bioware would EVER spoil what's coming up next, because admitting nothing is coming after the ending would ruin potential for the future DLC's sales.

So no.  Not in the slightest.

you're right. I was about to say something to the effect of I don't know how you do it but then I thought that would sound way too much like shepard's squadmates throughout mass effect 3.  lol that would be a funny convo. "You've always stayed so focused on indoctrination theory." "I just think about how horrible the endings would be if I didn't."

Steak, Liara, I think about when there's so much steak.  I ****ing love steak. 

[Andromidius]

jgibson14352 wrote...
its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

And they said pre-release and post-release how important the Rachni would be.

Trust me, they say a lot of things that are untrue.  It wouldn't get them anywhere by saying this.

[Sammuthegreat]

Seriously, do BioWare think they're being clever here? Do they think they're doing something really brilliant that we just don't understand? Because from where I'm sat, stringing fans along with endless ambiguous little clues and coy little "oh, did you see that? WINKY SMILEY" statements, to then come along and stomp on it all with a sweeping "no more ending DLC" the very next day is just flat out bullSH!T.

Are they honestly trying to ****** us all off? Because I just don't get it. From the day the game came out and the garbage endings were revealed, I just haven't understood what their gameplan is. It seems to be "let's dick around with our fans' heads for a while, see how long they put up with it." Coming out with those smug little teases, like "don't delete your saves!" and "did you notice that about the Destroy ending?"

I just don't get it. Ambiguity can go suck my dick. Just give us an answer, tell us, straight up, what the deal is. No-one wants all this "clever" "artistic" gob****e. Because it's not clever or artistic. It's cruel to string us all along like this. No-one likes it.

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 28 juin 2012 - 09:43 .

[jgibson14352]

Dwailing wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Well if you take this all at face value, that's fine.

But the fact is, the question was never answered and more hints were thrown to support a non-literal ending.

So whoever this guy is, I don't much care.  They said they were leaving it open to interpretation, and they did.  So why would they then send someone who isn't well known to declare otherwise?  They wouldn't.

Not unless you think Bioware is REALLY stupid.

its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

Uh, Jessica's not a dev, she's the community manager. 

im using dev loosely, she was one of the people using the gamertags BioWareDev(1-11) during Xbox LIVEs game with fame night. either way, her statements obviously represent those of the bioware team

[DiebytheSword]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Just like those times when we didn't have a Geth Squadmate, a Prothean Squadmate, we didn't need to play MP to get the best endings, and when we got wildly divergent endings based on our choices.

I like Tully, he's a cool dude, but even if he were telling the truth as it stands now, nothing, absolutely nothing, stops the producers from going back on those words should plans change from what they've told others.  Tully is a community coordinator, not part of the decision makers in development.

Modifié par DiebytheSword, 28 juin 2012 - 09:43 .

[plfranke]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

Uh huh.  Okay.  That's nice.

Moving along.

dont know what thats supposed to mean, but what i posted is a bioware dev saying the extended cut is final. there will be NO more dlc pertaining to the ending. this thread is "was the ending a hallucination?". it wasnt. i dont want it to be like this, but thats the statement from the devs

Well if you take this all at face value, that's fine.

But the fact is, the question was never answered and more hints were thrown to support a non-literal ending.

So whoever this guy is, I don't much care.  They said they were leaving it open to interpretation, and they did.  So why would they then send someone who isn't well known to declare otherwise?  They wouldn't.

Not unless you think Bioware is REALLY stupid.

its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

lol jessica merizan is not a dev and has said many things that turned out to be false. If this guy is as reputable as jessica I don't feel threatened by that statement at all.

[Andromidius]

Oh, and my friend (who's not played ME3) thinks Harbinger says 'This one is powerful' right before saying 'join us' or 'serve us' (she isn't sure which).

Which is interesting, I can kind of hear it too if I try. Its really garbled though, as if Bioware didn't want it to be clear

[MaximizedAction]

Uhh, slow down the rage people. We've already been there a few months ago. You know the drill...

[insomniak9]

Andromidius wrote...

Oh, and my friend (who's not played ME3) thinks Harbinger says 'This one is powerful' right before saying 'join us' or 'serve us' (she isn't sure which).

Which is interesting, I can kind of hear it too if I try. Its really garbled though, as if Bioware didn't want it to be clear

So Harbinger is a Hanar now? 

[jgibson14352]

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

And they said pre-release and post-release how important the Rachni would be.

Trust me, they say a lot of things that are untrue.  It wouldn't get them anywhere by saying this.

if you can show me proof of a direct statement from a bioware dev saying something thats later proven wrong, ill drop my whole argument and say youre right, i shouldnt take this so seriously.
but, this is multiple devs saying, "no. this is final. just think the rest." they leave the possibility open by saying they have nothing planned, but lets be honest, that cant mean very much.

[Andromidius]

insomniak9 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Oh, and my friend (who's not played ME3) thinks Harbinger says 'This one is powerful' right before saying 'join us' or 'serve us' (she isn't sure which).

Which is interesting, I can kind of hear it too if I try. Its really garbled though, as if Bioware didn't want it to be clear

So Harbinger is a Hanar now? 

Either that or he's talking about Shepard.

Or my friend needs her ears checked.

[Andromidius]

jgibson14352 wrote...
if you can show me proof of a direct statement from a bioware dev saying something thats later proven wrong, ill drop my whole argument and say youre right, i shouldnt take this so seriously.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10056886/1

[plfranke]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
its Tully Ackland, a dev from bioware. notice the official bioware mark on his profile. all the devs are saying they made the EC the way they did because they want us to imagine our own endings. as stupid as that sounds (because it is), its true, check jessica merizans twitter (another dev, im assuming you havent heard of her)
they WILL release other dlc. thats pretty much garunteed. but, it will take place before the ending unfortunately. i would pay almost any amount to see an after ending dlc, but unfortunalely i dont think it will happen. of course i have hope, but the link i posted says otherwise

And they said pre-release and post-release how important the Rachni would be.

Trust me, they say a lot of things that are untrue.  It wouldn't get them anywhere by saying this.

if you can show me proof of a direct statement from a bioware dev saying something thats later proven wrong, ill drop my whole argument and say youre right, i shouldnt take this so seriously.
but, this is multiple devs saying, "no. this is final. just think the rest." they leave the possibility open by saying they have nothing planned, but lets be honest, that cant mean very much.

he just did and he is citing things that were said by actual devs not community managers like you are

[MilitanT07]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Seriously, do BioWare think they're being clever here? Do they think they're doing something really brilliant that we just don't understand? Because from where I'm sat, stringing fans along with endless ambiguous little clues and coy little "oh, did you see that? WINKY SMILEY" statements, to then come along and stomp on it all with a sweeping "no more ending DLC" the very next day is just flat out bullSH!T.

Are they honestly trying to ****** us all off? Because I just don't get it. From the day the game came out and the garbage endings were revealed, I just haven't understood what their gameplan is. It seems to be "let's dick around with our fans' heads for a while, see how long they put up with it." Coming out with those smug little teases, like "don't delete your saves!" and "did you notice that about the Destroy ending?"

I just don't get it. Ambiguity can go suck my dick. Just give us an answer, tell us, straight up, what the deal is. No-one wants all this "clever" "artistic" gob****e. Because it's not clever or artistic. It's cruel to string us all along like this. No-one likes it.

QFT

I'm getting really pissed.

[HellishFiend]

Suggestive Shep will change the tone of this thread:



edit: Wow, Suggestive Shep takes top of the page.

No but seriously guys, this thread isnt about raging over the state of the endings. It's about discussing the theory. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 28 juin 2012 - 09:53 .