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[Sammuthegreat]

MaximizedAction wrote...

How come I enjoyed the EC immensely while so many didn't?

If not pleasing everyone as good as possible, what did the EC do wrong?
If you don't agree with the 'literal' endings, then look at the gazillion, polished hints for IT. If you don't agree with IT, then try to explain the 'literal' endings with the nice logic provided by the Catalyst.

To me, the EC made both of my sides happy: the IT sceptic and the literal sceptic. They baked a cake with all flavours for everyone to, unlike the Crucible, not discriminate anyone. And people are complaining how no one got a full cake of their own.

Or, that's my opinion. I think everybody should be pleased to some level.

As it happens, I actually didn't mind the EC itself. It's BioWare's appalling handling of the whole ending debacle that has really set me off. I won't go into it again though.

I do hope the picture is clearer by the time the last ME3 DLC is done though. Even if it takes a year or two.

[BansheeOwnage]

TJBartlemus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Can anyone make out who's speaking? I adjusted the pitch but it doesn't sound like starkid at all. Btw, I am not an audio engineer or anything.

Can you go any higher? Or is it just at 30%?

Tell me how high to go and I'll post it.

Well, to be fair for analysis it would be accurate to go all the way from 0% to 100% and see what we get. If that is possible. Also try the Harbinger lines. Slow them down or mess with them. The results could be interesting. I would but I lack the tech to do it. Thanks!! 

Okay I'll go from normal too 100% higher. Then I'm gonna play MP soon so I will do Harbinger's lines later

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juin 2012 - 10:12 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Can anyone make out who's speaking? I adjusted the pitch but it doesn't sound like starkid at all. Btw, I am not an audio engineer or anything.

That sounds like... ManShep? 

Could be.

Well, it DID seem like they made Mark Meer's voice in the Catalyst dialogue easier to hear. 

Then I will post Conspiracy Keanu only if in a Femshep playthrough it's Jennifer Hale's voice.

It's Mark Meer doing vorcha-like voice and then put through filters to make it Reaperish. The 3rd repetition is the most telling.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 10:13 .

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

How come I enjoyed the EC immensely while so many didn't?

If not pleasing everyone as good as possible, what did the EC do wrong?
If you don't agree with the 'literal' endings, then look at the gazillion, polished hints for IT. If you don't agree with IT, then try to explain the 'literal' endings with the nice logic provided by the Catalyst.

To me, the EC made both of my sides happy: the IT sceptic and the literal sceptic. They baked a cake with all flavours for everyone to, unlike the Crucible, not discriminate anyone. And people are complaining how no one got a full cake of their own.

Or, that's my opinion. I think everybody should be pleased to some level.

I personally am NOT pleased simply because I am being left hanging.

There isn't enough resolution, which is why right now I think there is more to come.

[Dwailing]

You know, I just had a thought that goes with the "Harbinger let the Normandy go so it would have leverage over Shepard so he wouldn't want to choose Destroy because of EDI Hypothesis" (That REALLY needs a shorter catchier name.). If Shepard had destroyed the Geth previously, then without EDI, Shepard would have absolutely NO reason to NOT destroy the Reapers.  Harbinger would HAVE to let the Normandy go if he wanted Shepard to consider ANYTHING other than Destroy.

Modifié par Dwailing, 28 juin 2012 - 10:14 .

[L0NEWOLF25]

The fact that they didn't list the Starchild's voice acter in the credits would make it seem that bioware wants to try and hide something from us, or have us discover it on our own.

[SubAstris]

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...


The fact that they didn't list the Starchild's voice acter in the credits would make it seem that bioware wants to try and hide something from us, or have us discover it on our own.

Or they missed him...

[dreamgazer]

MaximizedAction wrote...

How come I enjoyed the EC immensely while so many didn't?

If not pleasing everyone as good as possible, what did the EC do wrong?
If you don't agree with the 'literal' endings, then look at the gazillion, polished hints for IT. If you don't agree with IT, then try to explain the 'literal' endings with the nice logic provided by the Catalyst.

To me, the EC made both of my sides happy: the IT sceptic and the literal sceptic. They baked a cake with all flavours for everyone to, unlike the Crucible, not discriminate anyone. And people are complaining how no one got a full cake of their own.

Or, that's my opinion. I think everybody should be pleased to some level.

You're not alone there. 

I enjoyed seeing the visualizations of the other endings (for morbid curiosity's sake, I relished seeing their idea of Reaper-God Controller Shepard and Utopian Synthesis), as well as the added refusal and the catalyst's justification. And the core outlook I've developed since March remains, with a few natural tweaks that accompany the tweaks to the ending.   They played their hand well, and they added just enough weirdness and core, real clues to strengthen certain interpretations and speculation.  

Not perfect, but well done.

[Salient Archer]

Every time I read this line about the Leviathen of dis: "...the apparent corpse of a genetically engineered living starship." I can't help but think of Moya from Farscape, who was a living ship who happened to be from a species called *drum roll sound* Leviathens.

[DJBare]

HellishFiend wrote...

Mark my words, Bioware will not forever leave the current thematic disasters referred to as "endings" as they are. They would lose a lot of players that actually play BW games for the story. Including me.

As a "story" they can legitimately leave it the way it is, but it's not just a story, it's both a "game" and a "story", in my opinion a "game" should have a definitive end whether it's lose or win.

[Dwailing]

SubAstris wrote...

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...


The fact that they didn't list the Starchild's voice acter in the credits would make it seem that bioware wants to try and hide something from us, or have us discover it on our own.

Or they missed him...

Now do you REALLY think they would do that?  I mean, they even revised the credits to include the voice actress of the Female Stargazer.  Do you REALLY think they would just forget to include the Catalyst?

[Arian Dynas]

balance5050 wrote...

Refusal ending FTW!!

Let this cycle go down fighting with dignity and honor so the next cycle can use Liaras plans and nip the reaper problem in the bud. No choice is ideal but I won't forsake my morals and I won't agree with a broken AI's "solution".

About time you got your ass back in here.

[paxxton]

plfranke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

plfranke wrote...

the question is are we willing to pay god knows how much money for multiple dlc's just to get a reasonable ending? I don't know seeing all those upset posts is starting to get me riled up

There won't be any new endings for Mass Effect 3. Let's face it. If BioWare plans for IT, it'll be revealed in Mass Effect 4. No sooner, no later.
 
C'mon people, they aren't a charity to give everything away for free. We've already got 3 DLCs at no cost.

As for DLCs, I bet they'll enhance the game in a similar way From Ashes did.

I already paid up. I paid for a game and got 95% of a game and 5% of pure crap. Then my 5% of crap got a free paint job.

So now you have 100% for what you originally paid and it isn't required to buy the DLC. DLCs are extensions.

[dreamgazer]

SubAstris wrote...

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...


The fact that they didn't list the Starchild's voice acter in the credits would make it seem that bioware wants to try and hide something from us, or have us discover it on our own.

Or they missed him...

Or it's one of the "Additional Voices" that are listed on IMDB, perhaps with their vocal registry altered.

[Sero303]

I'm not sure if anyone has asked the SPECIFIC question or not, BUT-
Would we, the fans be willing to purchase another game, 59.99+tax & all that, if they announce Shepard's story will continue in Mass Effect 4, and that the story will center around Shepard's Indoctrination and the fight to overcome it and defeat the reapers. ( you know the ending, the theory, that we have all been discussing for the last 4 months )
So if they announced, a new man in charge of the project, a new writing staff, maybe even that bioware went back to microsoft after surviving the abuse from EA....would we invest more money, more time and more energy?

[delldo]

My random post...

I like the fact that the refuse ending has a different stargazer scene than the rest of the endings...

What I like most: (paraphrasing) "but I have only told you a few (3) of the stories" "can you tell me one more...please?" "Ok, but only one more story".

I thing that speaks for itself because even the diolague is different. I do like this ending the most, even though it implies a terrible fate for everyone.

[Dwailing]

Sero303 wrote...

I'm not sure if anyone has asked the SPECIFIC question or not, BUT-
Would we, the fans be willing to purchase another game, 59.99+tax & all that, if they announce Shepard's story will continue in Mass Effect 4, and that the story will center around Shepard's Indoctrination and the fight to overcome it and defeat the reapers. ( you know the ending, the theory, that we have all been discussing for the last 4 months )
So if they announced, a new man in charge of the project, a new writing staff, maybe even that bioware went back to microsoft after surviving the abuse from EA....would we invest more money, more time and more energy?

Uh, call me a sheep , but YES.  I don't care in what capacity IT is confirmed, just as long as it's confirmed.  At this point, I've invested too much of my time and energy in IT to refuse to see that I was right just because they're charging me money to do so.

[HellishFiend]

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Mark my words, Bioware will not forever leave the current thematic disasters referred to as "endings" as they are. They would lose a lot of players that actually play BW games for the story. Including me.

As a "story" they can legitimately leave it the way it is, but it's not just a story, it's both a "game" and a "story", in my opinion a "game" should have a definitive end whether it's lose or win.

Sure they could technically leave it the way it is, but I would no longer be a part of their target audience, and as such, would no longer consume their future products. 

[paxxton]

Sero303 wrote...

I'm not sure if anyone has asked the SPECIFIC question or not, BUT-
Would we, the fans be willing to purchase another game, 59.99+tax & all that, if they announce Shepard's story will continue in Mass Effect 4, and that the story will center around Shepard's Indoctrination and the fight to overcome it and defeat the reapers. ( you know the ending, the theory, that we have all been discussing for the last 4 months )
So if they announced, a new man in charge of the project, a new writing staff, maybe even that bioware went back to microsoft after surviving the abuse from EA....would we invest more money, more time and more energy?

Absolutely.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 10:20 .

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

How come I enjoyed the EC immensely while so many didn't?

If not pleasing everyone as good as possible, what did the EC do wrong?
If you don't agree with the 'literal' endings, then look at the gazillion, polished hints for IT. If you don't agree with IT, then try to explain the 'literal' endings with the nice logic provided by the Catalyst.

To me, the EC made both of my sides happy: the IT sceptic and the literal sceptic. They baked a cake with all flavours for everyone to, unlike the Crucible, not discriminate anyone. And people are complaining how no one got a full cake of their own.

Or, that's my opinion. I think everybody should be pleased to some level.

I personally am NOT pleased simply because I am being left hanging.

There isn't enough resolution, which is why right now I think there is more to come.

I forgot to add in my little anti-rant: the other group that should have gotten something from it are the ones that like speculations discussions -- you know, since the EC offers new material.

But yes, of course I'm not absolutely happy, as I want to finally get on with my life and call it a day from this damn game.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 juin 2012 - 10:21 .

[plfranke]

paxxton wrote...

plfranke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

plfranke wrote...

the question is are we willing to pay god knows how much money for multiple dlc's just to get a reasonable ending? I don't know seeing all those upset posts is starting to get me riled up

There won't be any new endings for Mass Effect 3. Let's face it. If BioWare plans for IT, it'll be revealed in Mass Effect 4. No sooner, no later.
 
C'mon people, they aren't a charity to give everything away for free. We've already got 3 DLCs at no cost.

As for DLCs, I bet they'll enhance the game in a similar way From Ashes did.

I already paid up. I paid for a game and got 95% of a game and 5% of pure crap. Then my 5% of crap got a free paint job.

So now you have 100% for what you originally paid and it isn't required to buy the DLC. DLCs are extensions.

You missed my point. The point was to say that a paint job does not transform crap.

[dreamgazer]

Oh, I'd definitely play a game centered on Shepard pulling him/herself out of indoctrination hell. I imagine it being kinda like Mass Effect's version of The Fade.

[jgibson14352]

Sero303 wrote...

I'm not sure if anyone has asked the SPECIFIC question or not, BUT-
Would we, the fans be willing to purchase another game, 59.99+tax & all that, if they announce Shepard's story will continue in Mass Effect 4, and that the story will center around Shepard's Indoctrination and the fight to overcome it and defeat the reapers. ( you know the ending, the theory, that we have all been discussing for the last 4 months )
So if they announced, a new man in charge of the project, a new writing staff, maybe even that bioware went back to microsoft after surviving the abuse from EA....would we invest more money, more time and more energy?

i dont know of any true Mass Effect fan who wouldnt

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Refusal ending FTW!!

Let this cycle go down fighting with dignity and honor so the next cycle can use Liaras plans and nip the reaper problem in the bud. No choice is ideal but I won't forsake my morals and I won't agree with a broken AI's "solution".

About time you got your ass back in here.

Lol, why did I read this in Family Guy's Herbert voice?

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

How come I enjoyed the EC immensely while so many didn't?

If not pleasing everyone as good as possible, what did the EC do wrong?
If you don't agree with the 'literal' endings, then look at the gazillion, polished hints for IT. If you don't agree with IT, then try to explain the 'literal' endings with the nice logic provided by the Catalyst.

To me, the EC made both of my sides happy: the IT sceptic and the literal sceptic. They baked a cake with all flavours for everyone to, unlike the Crucible, not discriminate anyone. And people are complaining how no one got a full cake of their own.

Or, that's my opinion. I think everybody should be pleased to some level.

I personally am NOT pleased simply because I am being left hanging.

There isn't enough resolution, which is why right now I think there is more to come.

I forgot to add in my little anti-rant: the other group that should have gotten something from it are the ones that like speculations discussions -- you know, since the EC offers new material.

But yes, of course I'm not absolutely happy, as I want to finally get on with my life and call it a day from this damn game.

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Noooooo! Don't go! We'll miss you!