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[Dwailing]

@Dreamgazer and BansheeOwnage: I'll answer both of your questions at once. It's not real. Just because you hear Star-Brat saying the cycle continues, and you see one dreadnought getting destroyed (Which, based on Megumi's video from earlier, probably happens anyway.), doesn't mean that the current cycle actually failed. I get the feeling that the time capsule buried by Liara was programmed to say that they failed, given that it was intended to be opened by a future cycle if they failed. And if it wasn't programmed to say that from the beginning, and if Liara was killed on the run down the hill, how could she have changed what the time capsule said?

[DJBare]

unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC. 

I think it's quite clear what he is stating, that's it, done, EC gave is the definitive ending, game over, everything else will be icing on the cake, sour icing but icing none the less.

Modifié par DJBare, 28 juin 2012 - 10:42 .

[masster blaster]

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

[BansheeOwnage]

SirLugash wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...


The fact that they didn't list the Starchild's voice acter in the credits would make it seem that bioware wants to try and hide something from us, or have us discover it on our own.

Or they missed him...

Now do you REALLY think they would do that?  I mean, they even revised the credits to include the voice actress of the Female Stargazer.  Do you REALLY think they would just forget to include the Catalyst?

Maybe they didn't because it's still a little boy who doesn't want the attention ?

Anyways, I checked IMDB for this and I just saw that the voice actor of Kai Leng is also the Multiplayer Announcer ?

SRS? I always thought it was manshep

[EpyonX3]

Dwailing wrote...

@Dreamgazer and BansheeOwnage: I'll answer both of your questions at once. It's not real. Just because you hear Star-Brat saying the cycle continues, and you see one dreadnought getting destroyed (Which, based on Megumi's video from earlier, probably happens anyway.), doesn't mean that the current cycle actually failed. I get the feeling that the time capsule buried by Liara was programmed to say that they failed, given that it was intended to be opened by a future cycle if they failed. And if it wasn't programmed to say that from the beginning, and if Liara was killed on the run down the hill, how could she have changed what the time capsule said?

Wouldn't Liara go get the capsule then and keep it as a reminder of Shepard or as a historical artifact of the war? Why would she leave it there broadcasting a message that was no longer needed?

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

@Dreamgazer and BansheeOwnage: I'll answer both of your questions at once. It's not real. Just because you hear Star-Brat saying the cycle continues, and you see one dreadnought getting destroyed (Which, based on Megumi's video from earlier, probably happens anyway.), doesn't mean that the current cycle actually failed. I get the feeling that the time capsule buried by Liara was programmed to say that they failed, given that it was intended to be opened by a future cycle if they failed. And if it wasn't programmed to say that from the beginning, and if Liara was killed on the run down the hill, how could she have changed what the time capsule said?

Good point.

[SixG90]

jgibson14352 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

delldo wrote...

My random post...

I like the fact that the refuse ending has a different stargazer scene than the rest of the endings...

What I like most: (paraphrasing) "but I have only told you a few (3) of the stories" "can you tell me one more...please?" "Ok, but only one more story".

I thing that speaks for itself because even the diolague is different. I do like this ending the most, even though it implies a terrible fate for everyone.

I'm curious: as we sure that's an asari in the new stargazer scene?

We can't be certain, but given that she has what look like Asari head folds (Or whatever the heck you want to call them.), and she sounds a LOT like the various Asari we've met throughout the game, plus the fact that she's FEMALE in the first place, kind of suggests, to me anyway, that she's an Asari.

I agree with all that, but I have a curious question about it: why wouldn't the asari be one of the advanced races that were "ascended" in the current cycle?

all the races were ascended, but only one per cycle is uplifted to capital ship form. it would have been the asari, but how they relied on aliens for reproduction showed genetic weakness

The silouhette is one of an Asari. Plus, Javik said the asari where uplifted to lead the current cycle. I don't see why Liara's beacon couldn't be a " Vigil" and some Asari couldn't be put in stasis for 50000 years like Javik... Also, given Asari reproduction, there could have been really few of them to create another "Asari Empire". To quote Vendetta: ''The pattern repeats itself'' 

[EpyonX3]

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

[Smeffects]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

GamerrangerX wrote...

FORGET ABOUT IT,CONTROL ENDING RULE= IMMORTAL SHEPARD

Hell, yeah!!!

Shepard as a Reaper can still die, which makes me wonder if Shepard ever dies in Control but as a Reaper does that mean the God child comes back and the Cycle continus? Just a thought I would like to point out.

Actually when you have the sc explain control. He clearly states he doesent like that option because you replace him, but he would have no choise. Shepard is not a reaper himself, he is the catalyst.

[TSA_383]

[quote]Sammuthegreat wrote...

Seriously, do BioWare think they're being clever here? Do they think they're doing something really brilliant that we just don't understand? Because from where I'm sat, stringing fans along with endless ambiguous little clues and coy little "oh, did you see that? WINKY SMILEY" statements, to then come along and stomp on it all with a sweeping "no more ending DLC" the very next day is just flat out bullSH!T.

Are they honestly trying to ****** us all off? Because I just don't get it. From the day the game came out and the garbage endings were revealed, I just haven't understood what their gameplan is. It seems to be "let's dick around with our fans' heads for a while, see how long they put up with it." Coming out with those smug little teases, like "don't delete your saves!" and "did you notice that about the Destroy ending?"

I just don't get it. Ambiguity can go suck my dick. Just give us an answer, tell us, straight up, what the deal is. No-one wants all this "clever" "artistic" gob****e. Because it's not clever or artistic. It's cruel to string us all along like this. No-one likes it.
[/quote]

QFT!
Seriously, I'll be taking a less substantial role on here until something important emerges. It's just a bit ridiculous. WE WERE PROMISED CLOSURE!

*Sigh*

[quote]Dwailing wrote...

[quote]dreamgazer wrote...

[quote]delldo wrote...

My random post...

I like the fact that the refuse ending has a different stargazer scene than the rest of the endings...

What
I like most: (paraphrasing) "but I have only told you a few (3) of the
stories" "can you tell me one more...please?" "Ok, but only one more
story".

I thing that speaks for itself because even the diolague
is different. I do like this ending the most, even though it implies a
terrible fate for everyone.[/quote]

I'm curious: as we sure that's an asari in the new stargazer scene?

[/quote]

We
can't be certain, but given that she has what look like Asari head
folds (Or whatever the heck you want to call them.), and she sounds a
LOT like the various Asari we've met throughout the game, plus the fact
that she's FEMALE in the first place, kind of suggests, to me anyway,
that she's an Asari.

[/quote]
The original (2011) script called for an asari-like character as the stargazer, which is interesting...

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]dreamgazer wrote...

[quote]delldo wrote...

My random post...

I like the fact that the refuse ending has a different stargazer scene than the rest of the endings...

What
I like most: (paraphrasing) "but I have only told you a few (3) of the
stories" "can you tell me one more...please?" "Ok, but only one more
story".

I thing that speaks for itself because even the diolague
is different. I do like this ending the most, even though it implies a
terrible fate for everyone.[/quote]

I'm curious: as we sure that's an asari in the new stargazer scene?

[/quote]

My
first thought was, it was an evolution from an asari & turian: The
head tenticles were too long for a pure asari and the body too 'soft'
for a pure turian.
[/quote]
My first thought was "****! BANSHEE!"
Maybe I was a little paranoid after the missile truck battle

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

Can anyone make out who's
speaking? I adjusted the pitch but it doesn't sound like starkid at all.
Btw, I am not an audio engineer or anything.
[/quote]

That sounds like... ManShep? 

[/quote]
From my own analysis, I reckon it's Mark Meer's Vorcha voice, plus a metric ****ton of effects
Could be wrong, in the process of reaperising a voice you destroy most of the original signal...

[Dwailing]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

@Dreamgazer and BansheeOwnage: I'll answer both of your questions at once. It's not real. Just because you hear Star-Brat saying the cycle continues, and you see one dreadnought getting destroyed (Which, based on Megumi's video from earlier, probably happens anyway.), doesn't mean that the current cycle actually failed. I get the feeling that the time capsule buried by Liara was programmed to say that they failed, given that it was intended to be opened by a future cycle if they failed. And if it wasn't programmed to say that from the beginning, and if Liara was killed on the run down the hill, how could she have changed what the time capsule said?

Wouldn't Liara go get the capsule then and keep it as a reminder of Shepard or as a historical artifact of the war? Why would she leave it there broadcasting a message that was no longer needed?

Like I said, it's quite possible for Liara to die on the run down the hill.  And also, besides this, I'm not even going to bother trying to answer your question, not because I don't think I could, but because I'm not in the mood to argue with someone who might as well be a brick wall for all that my answers will do to change your views.  Good day.

Modifié par Dwailing, 28 juin 2012 - 10:59 .

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yes, I saved it and the rachni betrayed me. In London there is a cutscenes with rachni, also there are rachni to shoot.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 10:47 .

[dreamgazer]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

@Dreamgazer and BansheeOwnage: I'll answer both of your questions at once. It's not real. Just because you hear Star-Brat saying the cycle continues, and you see one dreadnought getting destroyed (Which, based on Megumi's video from earlier, probably happens anyway.), doesn't mean that the current cycle actually failed. I get the feeling that the time capsule buried by Liara was programmed to say that they failed, given that it was intended to be opened by a future cycle if they failed. And if it wasn't programmed to say that from the beginning, and if Liara was killed on the run down the hill, how could she have changed what the time capsule said?

Wouldn't Liara go get the capsule then and keep it as a reminder of Shepard or as a historical artifact of the war? Why would she leave it there broadcasting a message that was no longer needed?

Another interesting question: where the hell is Liara-Vigil buried, anyway?

[MaximizedAction]

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that one.

Well, that must be because the EC wasn't among their initial planning...or maybe it was...ah hell, who knows.

@Dwailing: I like your take on the Refusal visuals. But how would you dismiss the alternate Stargazer scene? Non-canon, like Hellish' take on old-Stargazer?

[Cyberfrog81]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

If you take the endings literally, it can't be an Asari. Our entire cycle was destroyed. Plus the kid is male.

Not convinced she's asari, either.

But asari would be hard to eradicate. If there is a species that could run off to hide somewhere, and even find something to mate with, it'd be them.

However, the kid is not asari, so, yeah... odd.

[Andromidius]

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yeah, there's tonnes in London.

[zvetro]

mrs.N7 wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

delldo wrote...

My random post...

I like the fact that the refuse ending has a different stargazer scene than the rest of the endings...

What I like most: (paraphrasing) "but I have only told you a few (3) of the stories" "can you tell me one more...please?" "Ok, but only one more story".

I thing that speaks for itself because even the diolague is different. I do like this ending the most, even though it implies a terrible fate for everyone.

I'm curious: as we sure that's an asari in the new stargazer scene?

We can't be certain, but given that she has what look like Asari head folds (Or whatever the heck you want to call them.), and she sounds a LOT like the various Asari we've met throughout the game, plus the fact that she's FEMALE in the first place, kind of suggests, to me anyway, that she's an Asari.

I agree with all that, but I have a curious question about it: why wouldn't the asari be one of the advanced races that were "ascended" in the current cycle?

all the races were ascended, but only one per cycle is uplifted to capital ship form. it would have been the asari, but how they relied on aliens for reproduction showed genetic weakness

The silouhette is one of an Asari. Plus, Javik said the asari where uplifted to lead the current cycle. I don't see why Liara's beacon couldn't be a " Vigil" and some Asari couldn't be put in stasis for 50000 years like Javik... Also, given Asari reproduction, there could have been really few of them to create another "Asari Empire". To quote Vendetta: ''The pattern repeats itself'' 

Then again, Javik practically said to Shepard that he was saying that Asari were the top dogs to Liara just to make her feel better...

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

From my own analysis, I reckon it's Mark Meer's Vorcha voice, plus a metric ****ton of effects
Could be wrong, in the process of reaperising a voice you destroy most of the original signal...

That's exactly what I wrote on the previous page.

[Dwailing]

MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that one.

Well, that must be because the EC wasn't among their initial planning...or maybe it was...ah hell, who knows.

@Dwailing: I like your take on the Refusal visuals. But how would you dismiss the alternate Stargazer scene? Non-canon, like Hellish' take on old-Stargazer?

I don't necessarily think it's non-canon.  If you listen to her dialogue, she doesn't outright SAY that the old cycle failed.  Like she said, "They fought a terrible battle, so we wouldn't have to (Or something like that.)."  It almost sounds like she's saying that they WON and that they were able to preserve the galaxy for future generations.

Modifié par Dwailing, 28 juin 2012 - 10:51 .

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...
From my own analysis, I reckon it's Mark Meer's Vorcha voice, plus a metric ****ton of effects
Could be wrong, in the process of reaperising a voice you destroy most of the original signal...

Just like...ascending into a Reaper? :alien:

[MothershipChip]

DJBare wrote...

unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC. 

I think it's quite clear what he is stating, that's it, done, EC gave is the definitive ending, game over, everything else will be icing on the cake, sour icing but icing none the less.

Yep other than more MP packs and some pre-Cronos SP DLC ME3 is definative now that the EC is out. IT can be our head cannon if we choose, which is why they left some things and got rid of the others. It appears that the Ashely, Kaiden bodies are just poor renders of dead alliance soldiers. We can look forward to battling a rouge reaper and probably re-taking Omega, other than that it is up to our own interpretation of the story. 

[Dwailing]

Never mind. Thank goodness for smart phones!

Modifié par Dwailing, 28 juin 2012 - 11:13 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...
From my own analysis, I reckon it's Mark Meer's Vorcha voice, plus a metric ****ton of effects
Could be wrong, in the process of reaperising a voice you destroy most of the original signal...

Just like...ascending into a Reaper? :alien:

In this case the voice DEscended into Reaperish.  

[Dwailing]

MothershipChip wrote...

DJBare wrote...

unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC. 

I think it's quite clear what he is stating, that's it, done, EC gave is the definitive ending, game over, everything else will be icing on the cake, sour icing but icing none the less.

Yep other than more MP packs and some pre-Cronos SP DLC ME3 is definative now that the EC is out. IT can be our head cannon if we choose, which is why they left some things and got rid of the others. It appears that the Ashely, Kaiden bodies are just poor renders of dead alliance soldiers. We can look forward to battling a rouge reaper and probably re-taking Omega, other than that it is up to our own interpretation of the story. 

Not so sure about that.  Just give BW some time.  Remember Fallout 3 and how long it took them to bring out the Broken Steel pack (If I remember correctly.)?

[Rifneno]

McWhitey3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC.

People are still listening to BW about these things?  Come on.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me a hundred and fourty-seven times, shame on the community.

Modifié par Rifneno, 28 juin 2012 - 10:52 .