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[jgibson14352]

Dwailing wrote...

MothershipChip wrote...

DJBare wrote...

unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC. 

I think it's quite clear what he is stating, that's it, done, EC gave is the definitive ending, game over, everything else will be icing on the cake, sour icing but icing none the less.

Yep other than more MP packs and some pre-Cronos SP DLC ME3 is definative now that the EC is out. IT can be our head cannon if we choose, which is why they left some things and got rid of the others. It appears that the Ashely, Kaiden bodies are just poor renders of dead alliance soldiers. We can look forward to battling a rouge reaper and probably re-taking Omega, other than that it is up to our own interpretation of the story. 

Not so sure about that.  Just give BW some time.  Remember Fallout 3 and how long it took them to bring out the Broken Steel pack (If I remember correctly.)?

yes, but did anyone in the bethesda team flat out say "nope this is it deal with it. just think the rest"?

Modifié par jgibson14352, 28 juin 2012 - 10:55 .

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

McWhitey3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC.

People are still listening to BW about these things?  Come on.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me a hundred and fourty-seven times, shame on the community.

Just to be clear, I never said that.  Someone just messed up the quotation marks.

And I agree.  They've not been overly earnst recently.

[Reever]

To be honest, I´ve never like the IT and I´m happy it doesn´t seem to be true (at least not in my games... =)).
Can´t say this was a dream ending, but better than the standard one!

[jgibson14352]

BlueDemonX wrote...

To be honest, I´ve never like the IT and I´m happy it doesn´t seem to be true (at least not in my games... =)).
Can´t say this was a dream ending, but better than the standard one!

ill be honest ive never heard anybody say anything bad about IT, what exactly didnt you like about it? it gave the endings meaning and it established that the base theme throughout all three games is hope, that youve only lost if you lose hope. it showed that the endings werent made in five minutes but rather took them a long time to think of an ending that did the whole series justice

[Dwailing]

BlueDemonX wrote...

To be honest, I´ve never like the IT and I´m happy it doesn´t seem to be true (at least not in my games... =)).
Can´t say this was a dream ending, but better than the standard one!

And you're in the IT thread telling us this... why?

[CoolioThane]

Get the **** out if you don't like the IT, this is the thread about the IT. Christ

[senshi420]

www.youtube.com/watch

EC vlog by clevernoob, donno if its been posted here yet.

im about 1/3 the way through it.

hes got his own interpretations of some of the stuff thats been comming up, but hey its worth a watch.

Modifié par senshi420, 28 juin 2012 - 11:15 .

[MaximizedAction]

Dwailing wrote...

BlueDemonX wrote...

To be honest, I´ve never like the IT and I´m happy it doesn´t seem to be true (at least not in my games... =)).
Can´t say this was a dream ending, but better than the standard one!

And you're in the IT thread telling us this... why?

Before I call it a night, I just wanted to say, when it comes to posts fitting their avatar, yours sound the most like Garrus.

Good night!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 juin 2012 - 11:20 .

[Andromidius]

CoolioThane wrote...

Get the **** out if you don't like the IT, this is the thread about the IT. Christ

Be friendly

Non-Indoctrination Theorists are welcome here, so long as they aren't rude or trollish.  Always good to see the other side of a debate.

[paxxton]

LOL. Did you notice how fast Normandy showed up to evacuate the squadmates? Also, Joker says they are taking heavy losses. How the hell does he appear over the ground zero so fast? And then Shepard has a long farewell chat while Harby is waiting for him to finish it?? Something doesn't add up here.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 11:27 .

[smokingotter1]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Mark my words, Bioware will not forever leave the current thematic disasters referred to as "endings" as they are. They would lose a lot of players that actually play BW games for the story. Including me.

As a "story" they can legitimately leave it the way it is, but it's not just a story, it's both a "game" and a "story", in my opinion a "game" should have a definitive end whether it's lose or win.

Sure they could technically leave it the way it is, but I would no longer be a part of their target audience, and as such, would no longer consume their future products. 

They purposely didn't acnowledge the ending cause: 

1- Speculations = hype = money.

2- If they catered to one side, the other would be angry. (This point illustrates that they have yet to prove or disprove) 

3- They possibly proved both were right. Explained in WNT: EC (Also still need opinions on thread. It's too silent.)

4- They won't continue after the endings for the point of 1 and 2. Instead they will make before ending dlc that will provide excellent story, gameplay, and hints towards the endings making it a must buy by the Mass Effect fanbase.

THIS x1000. I believe in IT but-THERE WILL BE NO RESOLUTION FFFWWWHHOOPPP (reaper sound) CGIing all the war assets would be incredibly expensive. As long as Bioware keeps teasing and keeping us on edge they'll get what they want from us.

IT is like an itch that is barely out of reach. Keeps us in the game, but is ulimately frustrating.

[Auralius Carolus]

Rifneno wrote...

McWhitey3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC.

People are still listening to BW about these things?  Come on.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me a hundred and fourty-seven times, shame on the community.

Mhm. And he may be telling the truth. If he is, too bad for Bioware: I know of a healthy chunk of people who aren't paying extra for seat upgrades on the train heading over the cliff.

[paxxton]

When Normandy flies away, Harby looks at it.
http://www.youtube.c...2jEnvQh4#t=117s

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 11:30 .

[CoolioThane]

There's seeing the other side of the debate and there's blatant attempts at gloating and stuff from these people that think they've got one over on us.

The endings are still not clarified...the IT is alive and well. More than ever I would say

[masster blaster]

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yes, I saved it and the rachni betrayed me. In London there is a cutscenes with rachni, also there are rachni to shoot.

Which on the one from ME1 or ME3 if you killed the Queen from ME1.

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yes, I saved it and the rachni betrayed me. In London there is a cutscenes with rachni, also there are rachni to shoot.

Which on the one from ME1 or ME3 if you killed the Queen from ME1.

In ME3.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 juin 2012 - 11:33 .

[Jere85]

I still believe, i simply ignore the trolls, its obvious IT has been challenged, but has it been debunked? No.

[byne]

So, about the EC. Did it add anything anywhere other than the last 10 minutes, starting at the conduit run?

Cause I figured they'd at least add some stuff for the ME2 romances, but I dont have any characters that are in a romance with a ME2 character, so I cant check.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yes, I saved it and the rachni betrayed me. In London there is a cutscenes with rachni, also there are rachni to shoot.

Which on the one from ME1 or ME3 if you killed the Queen from ME1.

In ME3.

To quote Joker:

You killed the normal queen back on Noveria, but the crazy reapified thing, that's the one you take a chance on?

[Kabraxal]

The reject ending seems to fit with IT logic as well... whether or not any of this is realised, no one can say IT is dead. Everything still fits with IT at this point.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yes, I saved it and the rachni betrayed me. In London there is a cutscenes with rachni, also there are rachni to shoot.

Which on the one from ME1 or ME3 if you killed the Queen from ME1.

In ME3.

To quote Joker:

You killed the normal queen back on Noveria, but the crazy reapified thing, that's the one you take a chance on?

That was from Garrus.

[SirLugash]

Rifneno wrote...

McWhitey3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...
unfortunately, there is no hope, for IT or anything else. check social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12799212/3#12807105

To me he is just saying they wont be doing an EC to the EC.

People are still listening to BW about these things?  Come on.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me a hundred and fourty-seven times, shame on the community.

They might not change the endings, but don't discount the ability to add to it.
I don't know whether you followed the the thread on the Leviathan DLC, but from what I understand there are also lines for the Catalyst scene.
So they could possibly take future DLC into account for the Catalyst scene/end.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya how did the Rachni make a huge affect On mE3's endings.

mike Gamble-“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Question. Do we see Rachni husks after we save/kill the queen? I don't remember what my choices were.

Yes, I saved it and the rachni betrayed me. In London there is a cutscenes with rachni, also there are rachni to shoot.

Which on the one from ME1 or ME3 if you killed the Queen from ME1.

In ME3.

To quote Joker:

You killed the normal queen back on Noveria, but the crazy reapified thing, that's the one you take a chance on?

That was from Garrus.

Bull****

Fun fact: If you make a bad word a hyperlink, the censor wont censor it, so I had to censor it myself. 

Modifié par byne, 28 juin 2012 - 11:39 .

[Salient Archer]

Ok, I’m going to try and bring this up again, but every time I make a point since EC it seems to be ignored or glossed over... so fingers crossed I get my point across this time or at least get some constructive answers. Here we go...

My canon Shepard never met Harbinger and never spoke to him (as Harbinger) in Arrival, rather my Shepard spoke to Harby while he was posing as the collector general.

[as shown in the image below]



Now this raises an issue: If my Shepard never saw Harbinger in his true form how would anyone know what Harbinger looks like? No one ever had any face-to-face contact with him, not even Shepard in this case. So even when Shepard filled his reports how would he be able to describe something that he had never seen? It would be like a blind man trying to describe colour.

I should also point out that during this conversation in Arrival, Harbinger never announces what his name is regardless of what form he takes. Obviously a Reaper wouldn’t name itself considering they have no need for names, this is something we assign to them but regardless, Harbinger is clearly the name Shepard had assigned to this unique Reaper antagonist and would have been the name he gave it when presenting this information to the Alliance, but yet without seeing Harbingers image how would he be able to describe it’s defining characteristics? As far as my Shepard knew it just looked like Sovereign.

Anyway, skip forward to ME3 just before the beam charge and not only does my Shepard show fear at the mention of Harbinger’s name but Anderson also knew exactly which one was Harbinger and that somehow this information was relevant to Shepard (because a regular Reaper wouldn’t be terrifying enough apparently) So somehow without either or them (or anyone for that matter) having any idea what made Harbinger cosmetically different to all the other Reaper types both men and the entire Alliance knew exactly who Harbinger was... So why add more emphasis to Harbinger? any sovereign class reaper would have sufficed, why did Harbinger personally feel the need to be the one to confront Shepard in this final confrontation if they are just a collective intelligence after all?

[jgibson14352]

look, they didnt debunk the IT, and they never will. theres a very small chance thats because they plan more dlc, but its an insanely small chance. from what ive read from the bioware team members, they want you to speculate all you want and come up with your own story. yes. and entertainment company wants you to use your imagination, instead of the way its supposed to work, where we give them money to imagine for us. these are all on jessica merizans twitter, if you dont believe me