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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#34201
MegumiAzusa

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FellishBeast wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

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Joedogg9999 wrote...

Has anyone pointed out that the stargazer scene is a stolen art image from a metal band? The art was used on their song on youtube uploaded before me3 cameout. The song is titled "starchild" and the lyrics are about indoctrination.

Wait! What? Have you got a link?

The image is an image from deviantArt and added by the one who uploaded the video. This is the original album art:
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Not a bad album. I've had it for a few years now, lol.


Though I would think Stargazer from Blood Stain Child is much more fitting. (The lyrics, not the art that is.)

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So apparently this song was being composed between 2000 and 2003 and released in 2004. How the hell could this all be a coincidence. A song called StarChild that comes from an album called WinterSun and all this predates not only Mass Effect 3 but Mass Effect as a series, oh and than there's the songs lyrics... far out.



[Part I (Wanderer of Time)]

So mysterious is your world,
concealed beyond the stars
Far away from the earth,
it flows one with time and dark as the night
Million shapes and colours
are storming inside your mind
Creating endless dimensions
Forming universes without walls

Let go! of the stars, the stars that fell into the sea
Let go! of your thoughts and dreams,
what can you see now

You cannot save them anymore
- Wanderer of time -
It's too late now
- Creator of Dimensions -
Destroy the walls of time
Hands of the blind are holding your fate
Tides of life will take you away, will take you away

Starchild!
Visions are born from the unknown force
It dominates the way of time
The dream only ends, when the worlds come to an end
Starchild!
You cannot escape to the dark streams of the sea,
to suppress your dreams
Nothing can keep you away from the need to create
'cause your path is free...

[Part II (Buring Star)]

I've hold the fire within myself
Years I've walked in the coldest winds
Through the deserts of sand and snow
The time is passing and I know,
that I'm wasting my life, destroying my dreams
I'm diving into the bottomless sea
From sorrow and pain I find my strength
the more pain I feel, the more I see
Now I'm watching my life flowing in the dark
like streams of fear running through my heart
And it's wearing me down until I'm gone
Soon I'll join the endless whirls of stars
And I fall deeper into the unknown voids
Something is dying, yet something is born
And I fall into infinity like a burning star
When will I find my silent dawn
I fall like a burning star!

[Part III (The Creation)]

The curtains of mist are fading
and the veils of star clouds are revealed
Storms of new energy
flows in the depths of my mind
New constellations are born
in total harmony of perfection
And the dissonant unbalance was broken
as the colours fell straight from the light

[Part IV (The Sea of Stars)]

I'm floating in the sea of stars,
I'm drifting away from the shore
I will be lost in the dream when the dark days come
But I will make the time run backwards and
I'll make the stars shine again
I will light up the sky to a bright crimson nights
... And they'll shine together forever
With brilliant silver colours they'll shine forever

[Part V (Finale)]

The whirls of stars takes you now far away
away from the cold nightmare
Let go of you thoughts and dreams
and you will feel the warmth once again
Starchild! in the Sea of Stars you fall
You fall like a burning star!
Starchild! in the Sea of Stars you fall
... But there is no end to creation

Modifié par Salient Archer, 29 juin 2012 - 12:27 .


#34203
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FellishBeast wrote...

Okay, that makes a lot more sense. It's actually kind of cool that BioWare wrote themselves an excuse to dismiss that as an option, as well. Though it does seem silly that if a few Turians could do it, the combined minds of the galaxy couldn't. But stranger things have happened.

I think a line has to be drawn. If we started ramming ships into Reapers I think it could lead to things getting ridiculous, but that's just my take on it.


A few turians? There's no telling what technological genius was involved with Facinus. It may not have even been Facinus. It's possible that they got help from the Reapers via an indoctrinated agent who was told how to do it. Make the turians exhaust some of their military power on themselves before the invasion.

Ridiculous? Oh, yeah, you're right. We should stick with this Starbinger thing. Wouldn't want things to get ridiculous now by involving real military strategy. *eyeroll*

... Oh, we're back to that song thing now? I should go.

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Salient Archer wrote...

So apparently this song was being composed between 2000 and 2003 and released in 2004. How the hell could this all be a coincidence. A song called StarChild that comes from an album called WinterSun and all this predates not only Mass Effect 3 but Mass Effect as a series, oh and than there's the songs lyrics... far out.



*snip*

If it predates Mass Effect, BioWare likely knew about it during the development process. I would be surprised if Mass Effect 3 predated the song several years. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juin 2012 - 12:32 .


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Ah yes, 2000-2004, the time songs were longer then 3 minutes and lyrics didn't repeat every two lines... good times.

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The indoctrination theory is stupid, because you can't teleport in dreams.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, 2000-2004, the time songs were longer then 3 minutes and lyrics didn't repeat every two lines... good times.

In a perfect world it would still be this way, but sadly today points (re: cash) are awarded to those who are uncreative, untalented and uninspiring carbon copies of fundamental money making formulas.

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M0ynihan wrote...

The indoctrination theory is stupid, because you can't teleport in dreams.

Thank you for your feedback. What did you like about IT?

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Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, 2000-2004, the time songs were longer then 3 minutes and lyrics didn't repeat every two lines... good times.

In a perfect world it would still be this way, but sadly today points (re: cash) are awarded to those who are uncreative, untalented and uninspiring carbon copies of fundamental money making formulas.


I saw it. That thing that you did there.

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Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, 2000-2004, the time songs were longer then 3 minutes and lyrics didn't repeat every two lines... good times.

In a perfect world it would still be this way, but sadly today points (re: cash) are awarded to those who are uncreative, untalented and uninspiring carbon copies of fundamental money making formulas.


While true, epic lol's if you guys think that's only in the past decade or so.

inb4 someone without a "Bioware" tag tries to play topic police

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M0ynihan wrote...

The indoctrination theory is stupid, because you can't teleport in dreams.



Your right, the literal ending is stupid with all that teleportation going on. Fortunately IT removed any mysterious character jumping.

That IS What you meant,right?

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I don't like the Mass Effect universe, it goes against the bible.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

M0ynihan wrote...

The indoctrination theory is stupid, because you can't teleport in dreams.



Your right, the literal ending is stupid with all that teleportation going on. Fortunately IT removed any mysterious character jumping.

That IS What you meant,right?

I think he didn't read what he wrote because you CAN teleport in dreams.

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juin 2012 - 12:48 .


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  • The Indoctrination theory can't be true because the new Wii U players couldn't understand it due to the fact that they didn't play any of the games.

Modifié par M0ynihan, 29 juin 2012 - 12:50 .


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So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.

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M0ynihan wrote...



Really? -_-

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.


Cool.

#34218
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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.


Proof? Images? What's the London beacon structure?

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.

What curvy parts?

#34220
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.

What curvy parts?

That metallic circle.

#34221
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I don't have images (I'm on 360), but it was the first thing I noticed when playing the EC.

You know, the beam structure in London when you do the final run, it consists of these 'pillars' that are standing up. There's four tall ones (outer circle) and four smaller ones (the inner circle where the actual beam is).

I couldn't help but notice the inner 'pillars' suddenly have this 'curvy' texture, like the ones used on Object Rho, and it looks exactly like that object in the background in the breath scene.

Someone needs to get some comparison shots before/after EC, I'm pretty sure it's different. I'm trying to look for images, but it's hard.

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.

What curvy parts?

That metallic circle.

No the circle around it was there before.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 juin 2012 - 12:59 .


#34223
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why would bioware name the texture for the plants on the jungle planet "dream foliage" if it WASN'T A DREAM. It seems every hint they take away they put another one in. : /

#34224
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I'm actually 100% sure they changed it. I have a wallpaper of the beam approach on my desktop, and the old texture just looks like a stone pillar, not at all what it looks like now in the EC, which is really that 'Reapery' texture.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So I'm going to bring this up again and again until it gets picked up. =P

Did anyone notice they changed the model of the London beacon structure to have these curvy parts that look exactly like the one we found in the breath scene?

That is huge for IT.

What curvy parts?

That metallic circle.

No the circle around it was there before.


uhh this doesn't look good. I may be seeing things but it certainly looks like those mysterious piles of bodies are now already there before shepard gets hit now with the lazer...