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[Fingertrip]

There's no need to spam. If anyone has anything to say about it, then they'll do so.

[MegumiAzusa]

Andromidius wrote...

So the EC changed some of the dream sequences?

Can't find anything on youtube yet...

I also told you what they changed
It's probably not on YT because no one noticed it.

[a9fc]

@ new title.

I smell denial.

[Lokanaiya]

@spotlessvoid
Shepard is lying on his back, albeit on an inclined plane, which, come to think of it, is a position that would be very hard to get to unless someone had dragged/lifted him up there. It may just be for dramatic purposes, but then again, it might not.

[masster blaster]

Ya but it makes sense about the breath scene and why the catalyst vanished so quickly and why we need a lot of war assets to unlock the breath scene.

[Andromidius]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

So the EC changed some of the dream sequences?

Can't find anything on youtube yet...

I also told you what they changed
It's probably not on YT because no one noticed it.

Yeah, I'm just curious what it looks like.  I installed the EC just before doing Cronos, so I guess I missed it.

[MegumiAzusa]

Andromidius wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

So the EC changed some of the dream sequences?

Can't find anything on youtube yet...

I also told you what they changed
It's probably not on YT because no one noticed it.

Yeah, I'm just curious what it looks like.  I installed the EC just before doing Cronos, so I guess I missed it.

Might do a before/after video later, haven't installed the EC on my other PC yet.

[otreblA_SNAKE_ITA]

masster blaster wrote...

Guys it's like I said in the last page the only reason there is even a breath scene it's because the war assets are holding the reapers off and Harbinger off so Shepard can wake up. Did any of us ever thought the reason why the catalyst ever leaves early because it's going to go kill Shepard before Shepard wakes up.

Also when you stop and think for a sec. In the new EC Shepard can refuse the Indcotrination bd the catalyst goes into a reaper voices that has both Shepard's voice the childs voices and Harbingers voices appifled so that some people may think it's just a reaper.

And it also makes sense with the breath scene after the epilogue because Shepard is starting to feel that he/she is alive, and that all because of the war assets we have collected because it's bying time for Shepard to wake up.and could explain why it took so much in the original content ending in which Shepard can wake up after you unlock Synthesis, which is funny because you would think that it would be the best ending if it would be unlocked after you unlock the breath scene.

And finaly we get to the part were the god child lies to Shepard about EDI and the geth dying because if Shepard did survive the destroy ending you bet your a.. that they also did to because If the endings are Inoctrination attemptes then every thing we see is wrong.

Mmmh, but if you choose "Destroy" ending, you'll see EDI's name on the memorial...

[masster blaster]

Ya but the breath scene is after that otreblA.

[masster blaster]

Also otreblA Shepard already knew that they were EDI and the geth were going to die including Shepard himself/herself, and Shepard already knew that Anderson was dead. So if IT is true then after the Normandy leaves in Destroy Shepard wakes up after they show the breath scene and from there we pick up were we left off.

[otreblA_SNAKE_ITA]

Yeah but EDI was on the Normandy and our teammates watched her dying!

I've a question instead: if Hackett says that we will rebuild everything has been destroyed (or damaged, like the Mass Relays) why they can't "repair" EDI?

Last question: if EDI's dead, the Normandy should work no longer, or I'm wrong?

masster blaster wrote...

Also otreblA Shepard already knew
that they were EDI and the geth were going to die including Shepard
himself/herself, and Shepard already knew that Anderson was dead. So if
IT is true then after the Normandy leaves in Destroy Shepard wakes up
after they show the breath scene and from there we pick up were we left
off.

Yeah but if the IT is true...Why then Bioware didn't confirm this theory with the EC DLC? 

Modifié par otreblA_SNAKE_ITA, 29 juin 2012 - 06:20 .

[monrapias]

otreblA_SNAKE_ITA wrote...

Yeah but EDI was on the Normandy and our teammates watched her dying!

I've a question instead: if Hackett says that we will rebuild everything has been destroyed (or damaged, like the Mass Relays) why they can't "repair" EDI?

Last question: if EDI's dead, the Normandy should work no longer, or I'm wrong?

masster blaster wrote...

Also otreblA Shepard already knew
that they were EDI and the geth were going to die including Shepard
himself/herself, and Shepard already knew that Anderson was dead. So if
IT is true then after the Normandy leaves in Destroy Shepard wakes up
after they show the breath scene and from there we pick up were we left
off.

Yeah but if the IT is true...Why then Bioware didn't confirm this theory with the EC DLC? 

the normandy would work just fine, it would be as the first normandy.

[delldo]

Probably already discussed, but I think I found some foreshadowing with the refuse ending...

Victus- "You never asked to be a leader (Shepard), but if you refuse all of your people will die."

Might lend some credence as to why Shepard would see or think his people lose the war and die after choosing refusal. Just a thought.

[Andromidius]

delldo wrote...

Probably already discussed, but I think I found some foreshadowing with the refuse ending...

Victus- "You never asked to be a leader (Shepard), but if you refuse all of your people will die."

Might lend some credence as to why Shepard would see or think his people lose the war and die after choosing refusal. Just a thought.

That's a fair point.

However, Refuse can still be good as an 'out' to escape Indoctrination if you only have the option to Control.  Though it should definately not be as good as Destroy.

[masster blaster]

Well eid is apart of the ship but no joker can still fly the Normandy so ya I think they can, but Hackett never tells the Normandy crew about Anderson is dead or Shepard. So they only think that Shepard my be dead but if this is all in Shepard's head then Shepard believes that he/she may be alive and if Shepard was suppost to die in Destroy then what's to say that if Shepard survived then so could have the geth and EDI.

Also why didn't Hackett ever mention Shepard at all in the Destroy Epilogue when in synthesis and Control did.

[SubAstris]

delldo wrote...

Probably already discussed, but I think I found some foreshadowing with the refuse ending...

Victus- "You never asked to be a leader (Shepard), but if you refuse all of your people will die."

Might lend some credence as to why Shepard would see or think his people lose the war and die after choosing refusal. Just a thought.

T.E.N.U.O.U.S

[Andromidius]

SubAstris wrote...

delldo wrote...

Probably already discussed, but I think I found some foreshadowing with the refuse ending...

Victus- "You never asked to be a leader (Shepard), but if you refuse all of your people will die."

Might lend some credence as to why Shepard would see or think his people lose the war and die after choosing refusal. Just a thought.

T.E.N.U.O.U.S

It can be taken either way.  Either its just a heroic statement, and a way to show personality growth between the characters, or its foreshadowing.

Regardless, it fits well with the theme.  At face value, Refuse is the worst option - everyone dies.

[masster blaster]

Well they did leave a new dlc that looks like it could pull IT and prove the god childs bulls*** since it's about a rogu Reaper that was mentioned in ME1 The Leviathian of Dis.

[delldo]

Andromidius wrote...

delldo wrote...

Probably already discussed, but I think I found some foreshadowing with the refuse ending...

Victus- "You never asked to be a leader (Shepard), but if you refuse all of your people will die."

Might lend some credence as to why Shepard would see or think his people lose the war and die after choosing refusal. Just a thought.

That's a fair point.

However, Refuse can still be good as an 'out' to escape Indoctrination if you only have the option to Control.  Though it should definately not be as good as Destroy.

I like refusal myself, I do not see it as Shepard giving up, in fact I think it is the best ending if he were to fight off indoctrination.  Having the idea planted in his head by those words and all of the foreshadowing of not being able to win convintionaly gives him the vision of the possible loss of the war.  Is refusal an option no matter how high your EMS is?

[spotlessvoid]

I'm theory, edi is only essential for the cyber defenses, her original function

[Lokanaiya]

masster blaster wrote...

Well eid is apart of the ship but no joker can still fly the Normandy so ya I think they can, but Hackett never tells the Normandy crew about Anderson is dead or Shepard. So they only think that Shepard my be dead but if this is all in Shepard's head then Shepard believes that he/she may be alive and if Shepard was suppost to die in Destroy then what's to say that if Shepard survived then so could have the geth and EDI.

Also why didn't Hackett ever mention Shepard at all in the Destroy Epilogue when in synthesis and Control did.

Under IT, whether EDI and the geth died in destroy doesn't really matter, since, you know, it's all in Shepard's head.

[insomniak9]

Indeed. Lets avoid tenuous speculation, and get to working on finding out exactly where everything in the Hallucination originated from (like the pieces of destroyed Dreadnoughts as hand-rails, the Shadow Brokers engine room-style shifty walls and lightning, and Reaper noises when Anderson shouts "Shepard")

[masster blaster]

And OrteblA if you were Bioware and you wanted to make more money what better way to do it by giving you a paid ending that may prove that IT is right.

[Bivo]

Allen Spellwaver wrote...

So I guess an IT DLC is within fetch.

In that case I would be extatic to witness the poostorm on BSN , but it won't happen.

IT can exist besides the literal ending, but the literal ending would be screwed by any objective proof of IT.

[SubAstris]

Andromidius wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

delldo wrote...

Probably already discussed, but I think I found some foreshadowing with the refuse ending...

Victus- "You never asked to be a leader (Shepard), but if you refuse all of your people will die."

Might lend some credence as to why Shepard would see or think his people lose the war and die after choosing refusal. Just a thought.

T.E.N.U.O.U.S

It can be taken either way.  Either its just a heroic statement, and a way to show personality growth between the characters, or its foreshadowing.

Regardless, it fits well with the theme.  At face value, Refuse is the worst option - everyone dies.

Not necessarily. Many times in the ME series it has been referenced that one should not sacrifice their morals, even if that means dying (there is actually quite a good cutscene with EDI where they talk about such a matter). Only the refuse option means you don't deal with the Reapers and the Catalyst, and destroy could easily be seen as capitulation to the will of a Stalinist dictator in the form of the Catalyst