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[EpyonX3]

Andromidius wrote...

Peytl wrote...
I'm not trolling.  He's dodging the question, detracting from the point.

If you're not trolling, then I fear for humanity.

I'm not dodging the question AT ALL.  The cables, as I and others have said, have appeared EVERYWHERE.

Concrete, which is clearly shown in that scene moreso then the cables, IS NOT EVERYWHERE.

So we narrow down where we find concrete to planets, but not space stations.  The Citadel is a space station, and we never see concrete on there (and certainly none where the decision chamber is).  Thus the breath scene cannot be here.  And thus Shepard has to be somewhere else - and the last place where concrete (and Reaper tech) was present was...

EARTH!

And thus IT has additional evidence to support it.

End of.

Not only are the cables above your head when you pick destroy, they are nowhere in London levels. So if he's on earth, where'd the cables come from? No maybe's, probably's or could haves. Seriously, can anyone point them out anywhere near the beam or london at all?


EDIT: fixed capitals...

Modifié par EpyonX3, 29 juin 2012 - 08:57 .

[MaximizedAction]

Spartas Husky wrote...

It is still sad when the majority believes a bad dream is better than the ****ty ending lol.

Really really sad.

FYI whoever came up with synthesis should be thrown in jail... people like em are sick.

I think the endings now are not as bad anymore. Now, to me, believing IT is not to compensate for the endings so much, but more to solve those little puzzles that are carefully planted throughout the last missions.

[jgibson14352]

look, i know people are going to argue wit me about this, and with good reason, and frankly i dont believe it either, but jessica merizan has been tweeting several things like, the ending you come up with is better than what we could have done, stuff that suggests they want each person to do their job for them and envision the ending they want. i think its total crap for an entertainment company to even suggest this, but its still an idea that haunts my mind

[plfranke]

I want an ITer to tell me why Bioware wouldn't confirm IT from a business standpoint if it was their intention.

[MegumiAzusa]

I lold about the lyrics.

[Turbo_J]

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, anyone notice that Gamble, Merizan, etc. haven't made any ME related posts recently?

The last from Jessica was yesterday.

And yet we were told to 'keep our ears open'

Odd

[Andromidius]

Peytl wrote...

Can you prove the REAPER cables ARE everywhere. It's pretty bold to say. For example you can find Legion tangled in them.

What?  You just showed me Reaper cables somewhere other then on the Citadel, and we find them all over the place?

Yet you've still not addressed why Shepard is laying on concrete!

Troll logic at its worst. 

[Wolfram Tarant]

Dwailing wrote...

You see, if they would confirm that IT isn't true, then in a weird way, I might be more able to replay ME3.  You know why?  Because I wouldn't spend my WHOLE LIFE on this thread.  Come on Bioware!  You're making it impossible for me to do anything other than eating, sleeping, and trying to figure out what's going on!

This.

As someone with an obsessive personality, IT is unhealthy for me if it's left open for speculation

[EpyonX3]

Dwailing wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

It's not a waste of my time. I wouldn't have responded to you if I didn't think you have something to contribute. I'm interested to hear what you have to say about the rest. But for the meantime I'll elaborate what I meant. I mean that if Bioware really wanted to disprove IT all they would have to do is say it's not true. It's that simple. If IT is true Bioware is using it as a tool to get people to continue to buy dlc for the future ending that will give the series a fitting end. My point about mentioning the Normandy evacuation is this. There was something stupid and instead of fixing it in a proper way, like hell maybe even a mako picking them up and turning around, anything would have been better than the Normandy flying into an active war zone and flying away while Harbinger is literally staring at them. They replaced something that was difficult to believe with something even harder to believe. However, they didn't fix things that were even worst in my mind like Anderson and TIM.

They don't deny it because you will all stop playing ME3 instead of replaying it looking for clues. They don't confirm it because it's not what they intended. Why can't people see this?

Better question, how many games have most of us passed on because we were too busy playing ME3?

You see, if they would confirm that IT isn't true, then in a weird way, I might be more able to replay ME3.  You know why?  Because I wouldn't spend my WHOLE LIFE on this thread.  Come on Bioware!  You're making it impossible for me to do anything other than eating, sleeping, and trying to figure out what's going on!

Well I'm sure there would be some exceptions, however, most ITers attitudes toward the literal endings is negative, even with IT. So confirming that IT is false would drive those players away.

[Rifneno]

Peytl wrote...

So, there is no "concrete" or whatever because you say there isn't, right? I like this circle logic.

You don't seem to understand how logical debate works. You're making the claim that the most advanced space station in the galaxy (by leaps and bounds) was made with a crude, heavy, brittle material so antiquated that the Roman Empire used it. It is up to you to prove that claim beyond reasonable doubt. And you fail. Badly.

[dreamgazer]

plfranke wrote...

I want an ITer to tell me why Bioware wouldn't confirm IT from a business standpoint if it was their intention.

Ambiguity.  Mystery.  Intrigue.  Varied outlooks and interpretations.

[plfranke]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Peytl wrote...
I'm not trolling.  He's dodging the question, detracting from the point.

If you're not trolling, then I fear for humanity.

I'm not dodging the question AT ALL.  The cables, as I and others have said, have appeared EVERYWHERE.

Concrete, which is clearly shown in that scene moreso then the cables, IS NOT EVERYWHERE.

So we narrow down where we find concrete to planets, but not space stations.  The Citadel is a space station, and we never see concrete on there (and certainly none where the decision chamber is).  Thus the breath scene cannot be here.  And thus Shepard has to be somewhere else - and the last place where concrete (and Reaper tech) was present was...

EARTH!

And thus IT has additional evidence to support it.

End of.

Not only are the cables above your head when you pick destroy, they are nowhere in London levels. SO if he's on earth, where'd the cables come from? No maybe's, probably's or could haves. Seriously, can anyone point them out anywhere near the beam or london at all?

Can you point out concrete in the decision chamber?

[paxxton]

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juin 2012 - 08:57 .

[llbountyhunter]

plfranke wrote...

I want an ITer to tell me why Bioware wouldn't confirm IT from a business standpoint if it was their intention.

Yeah I wonder why bioware won't deny IT outright, and confirm the literal endings. And instead add evidence for IT?

[Dwailing]

jgibson14352 wrote...

look, i know people are going to argue wit me about this, and with good reason, and frankly i dont believe it either, but jessica merizan has been tweeting several things like, the ending you come up with is better than what we could have done, stuff that suggests they want each person to do their job for them and envision the ending they want. i think its total crap for an entertainment company to even suggest this, but its still an idea that haunts my mind

Honestly, at this point, if the fans are writting the endings, then I get the feeling that ME3 is in good hands.  You know why?  Because unless there's something else going on, then the writers on the ME3 team have proven themselves unbelievably incompetent, while the fans (I.E. Us.), have done a much better job (IMHO).  Honestly, if they really think that Synthesis is the best ending, then they need their collective heads examined.

[Andromidius]

EpyonX3 wrote...
Not only are the cables above your head when you pick destroy, they are nowhere in London levels. SO if he's on earth, where'd the cables come from? No maybe's, probably's or could haves. Seriously, can anyone point them out anywhere near the beam or london at all?

Cables are easier to find themselves in places then huge lumps of concrete.

Not to mention its not confirmed if those are cables and not rebar.

And regardless, even if it was Reaper cable and thus proves its not on Earth - ITS STILL NOT ON THE CITADEL!

How many times does this need to be said?  How many times?  Do you not understand basic logic?  The breathe scene is NOT on the Citadel!

[MaximizedAction]

Turbo_J wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, anyone notice that Gamble, Merizan, etc. haven't made any ME related posts recently?

The last from Jessica was yesterday.

And yet we were told to 'keep our ears open'

Odd

I hold my eyes open and saw a cloud today that looked like a Reaper...well, I'm officially crazy now.

[EpyonX3]

plfranke wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Peytl wrote...
I'm not trolling.  He's dodging the question, detracting from the point.

If you're not trolling, then I fear for humanity.

I'm not dodging the question AT ALL.  The cables, as I and others have said, have appeared EVERYWHERE.

Concrete, which is clearly shown in that scene moreso then the cables, IS NOT EVERYWHERE.

So we narrow down where we find concrete to planets, but not space stations.  The Citadel is a space station, and we never see concrete on there (and certainly none where the decision chamber is).  Thus the breath scene cannot be here.  And thus Shepard has to be somewhere else - and the last place where concrete (and Reaper tech) was present was...

EARTH!

And thus IT has additional evidence to support it.

End of.

Not only are the cables above your head when you pick destroy, they are nowhere in London levels. SO if he's on earth, where'd the cables come from? No maybe's, probably's or could haves. Seriously, can anyone point them out anywhere near the beam or london at all?

Can you point out concrete in the decision chamber?

My question first.

[Peytl]

Andromidius wrote...

Peytl wrote...

Can you prove the REAPER cables ARE everywhere. It's pretty bold to say. For example you can find Legion tangled in them.

What?  You just showed me Reaper cables somewhere other then on the Citadel, and we find them all over the place?

Yet you've still not addressed why Shepard is laying on concrete!

Troll logic at its worst. 

I guess you know the difference between everywhere and somewhere. I wonder who's trying to troll here.

[Dwailing]

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

But we weren't talking about the TIM vision.  We were ONLY talking about the vision that comes after the investigate.

[dreamgazer]

jgibson14352 wrote...

look, i know people are going to argue wit me about this, and with good reason, and frankly i dont believe it either, but jessica merizan has been tweeting several things like, the ending you come up with is better than what we could have done, stuff that suggests they want each person to do their job for them and envision the ending they want. i think its total crap for an entertainment company to even suggest this, but its still an idea that haunts my mind

I honestly don't see anything wrong with that.   It needed to be done with a bit more polish and a firmer suggestive hand, but doing so engages the mind and allows for many, many different players to sketch out their viewpoints on what happened after concrete events.

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, anyone notice that Gamble, Merizan, etc. haven't made any ME related posts recently?

The last from Jessica was yesterday.

And yet we were told to 'keep our ears open'

Odd

I hold my eyes open and saw a cloud today that looked like a Reaper...well, I'm officially crazy now.

LOL.

[Turbo_J]

plfranke wrote...

I want an ITer to tell me why Bioware wouldn't confirm IT from a business standpoint if it was their intention.

Spoilers and the end of speculation.

Speculation keeps the game hot. Once the first few DLCs come out that provide more clues as to what is going on, it will probably get even hotter, and more positive.

They've driven up the desire for fans need of closure and 'a better end' for Shepard. Dead good or alive good; followed by real closure to Shep's arch with a decent codex narration of events - say 5-10 years into the future. Can't go much more than that if even that far given they may want to pick up ME4 very shortly after the war. There will be a lot of cleaning up and rebuilding to do.

[Peytl]

Andromidius wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Not only are the cables above your head when you pick destroy, they are nowhere in London levels. SO if he's on earth, where'd the cables come from? No maybe's, probably's or could haves. Seriously, can anyone point them out anywhere near the beam or london at all?

Cables are easier to find themselves in places then huge lumps of concrete.

Not to mention its not confirmed if those are cables and not rebar.

And regardless, even if it was Reaper cable and thus proves its not on Earth - ITS STILL NOT ON THE CITADEL!

How many times does this need to be said?  How many times?  Do you not understand basic logic?  The breathe scene is NOT on the Citadel!

If you can't see the difference between a cable and a rebar, you must be totally blind.