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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#34701
paxxton

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The 3rd dream has a timer on it. If you don't follow the child, the sequence with Shepard's clone kicks in automatically.

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The whole Shepard breathe scene is as clear as daylight on one thing.

There's a bloody Mako to the side of him. There is no Mako what-so-ever on the Citadel, or on the Crucible.

Right before Shepard gets blasted, it's evidently shown that a Mako gets blasted on his side, and he falls down pretty in a similiar spot, as to whereas he is shown in the breathe-scene, with the mako being on his left.

Debunked. Seriously, carry on.

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Grandpa badvoiceactor, tell me another story about the shepard.

I don't have any more stories about the shepard, creepyhallucinationkid. How about instead I tell you the story of a man that used flycam to find some odd stuff that may or may not be concrete and then spent the next 2 and a half months solid arguing about it on a forum.

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Fingertrip wrote...

The whole Shepard breathe scene is as clear as daylight on one thing.

There's a bloody Mako to the side of him. There is no Mako what-so-ever on the Citadel, or on the Crucible.

Right before Shepard gets blasted, it's evidently shown that a Mako gets blasted on his side, and he falls down pretty in a similiar spot, as to whereas he is shown in the breathe-scene, with the mako being on his left.

Debunked. Seriously, carry on.


Actually, come to think of it, that might be the best point that can be made.  There's a Mako there, and there are NO Makos on the Citadel.  You're right, Shepard on the Citadel, debunked.

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EpyonX3

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paxxton wrote...

The 3rd dream has a timer on it. If you don't follow the child, the sequence with Shepard's clone kicks in automatically.


That was always there. I think it's on all three dreams as well.

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alittlewren wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

alittlewren wrote...
If anyone's interested and I have time later, I can upload the two versions to youtube. 


Please! :D


Okay, here's the two versions of the 3rd dream sequence that I saw, both with the same paragon Shepard, the only difference being two different dialogue options in the love scene preceeding. (Kaidan Love Scene, relaxed version appeared with "Everything?", distressed version appeared with "Absolutely.") Again, I don't know if both versions existed in the game pre-EC, but I can only find video in my files of the relaxed version pre-EC. 

Not sure if it would even have anything to do with IT, but I think it's pretty cool that subtle differences like this exist in the game, even if the significance is unclear. 

Relaxed Version: www.youtube.com/watch
Distressed Version: www.youtube.com/watch

Meh, mine's still uploading as I've included the conversation.
For me the distressed version appears with the top option, and relaxed with the bottom though. strange strange


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EpyonX3 wrote...

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What's this showing? 

Are you trying to prove my point, about Destroybinger?

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alittlewren wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

alittlewren wrote...
If anyone's interested and I have time later, I can upload the two versions to youtube. 


Please! :D


Okay, here's the two versions of the 3rd dream sequence that I saw, both with the same paragon Shepard, the only difference being two different dialogue options in the love scene preceeding. (Kaidan Love Scene, relaxed version appeared with "Everything?", distressed version appeared with "Absolutely.") Again, I don't know if both versions existed in the game pre-EC, but I can only find video in my files of the relaxed version pre-EC. 

Not sure if it would even have anything to do with IT, but I think it's pretty cool that subtle differences like this exist in the game, even if the significance is unclear. 

Relaxed Version: www.youtube.com/watch
Distressed Version: www.youtube.com/watch


I see they removed alt-Shepard looking into the camera for a second.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 29 juin 2012 - 09:20 .


#34710
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Reposting for MegumiAzusa who doesn't want to discuss with me. Posted Image

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.

In Destroy:

First -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=439s
Second -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=480s

Not sure if trolling...

So what was your point?



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Hay people did you know that there are cables in CONCRETE. Oh that's right I have seen cables in concrete before because my uncle is a construcion worker and they put cables in the concrete to give it support and frame work.

So ya the cables around Shepard are from cables and if you don't belive me look it up, or look at the battle at earth. There are cables sticking up from Concrete.

#34712
MegumiAzusa

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paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa who doesn't want to discuss with me. Posted Image

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.

In Destroy:

First -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=439s
Second -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=480s

Not sure if trolling...

So what was your point?

As Dwailing also told you: I was talking about the new visions, which are presented then choosing the investigate option.

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You know, I'm thinking about Rejection, and I had a thought. Why doesn't Shepard have any flashes to the people s/he's fought with? I mean, you'd think that, seeing as how s/he just doomed everyone in the galaxy, s/he'd be thinking at least about his/her LI.

#34714
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa who doesn't want to discuss with me. Posted Image

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.

In Destroy:

First -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=439s
Second -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=480s

Not sure if trolling...

So what was your point?

As Dwailing also told you: I was talking about the new visions, which are presented then choosing the investigate option.

Could you post links to them?

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MegumiAzusa

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Dwailing wrote...

You know, I'm thinking about Rejection, and I had a thought. Why doesn't Shepard have any flashes to the people s/he's fought with? I mean, you'd think that, seeing as how s/he just doomed everyone in the galaxy, s/he'd be thinking at least about his/her LI.

Because they don't show ANYTHING of what happens next. The next thing could be her waking up.

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Dwailing wrote...

You know, I'm thinking about Rejection, and I had a thought. Why doesn't Shepard have any flashes to the people s/he's fought with? I mean, you'd think that, seeing as how s/he just doomed everyone in the galaxy, s/he'd be thinking at least about his/her LI.

"So be IT." He breaks off indoctrination and the war continues.

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juin 2012 - 09:29 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

You know, I'm thinking about Rejection, and I had a thought. Why doesn't Shepard have any flashes to the people s/he's fought with? I mean, you'd think that, seeing as how s/he just doomed everyone in the galaxy, s/he'd be thinking at least about his/her LI.

Because they don't show ANYTHING of what happens next. The next thing could be her waking up.


Yeah, like I said before, I could swear that I was about to see Shepard wake up after that epic speech.  But no, free will is destined to always lead to failure. :D

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MegumiAzusa

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa who doesn't want to discuss with me. Posted Image

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.

In Destroy:

First -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=439s
Second -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=480s

Not sure if trolling...

So what was your point?

As Dwailing also told you: I was talking about the new visions, which are presented then choosing the investigate option.

Could you post links to them?

If you've got the bink player/rad video tools I could upload them I guess...

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Reposting for glory (YT is done processing)

MegumiAzusa wrote...

alittlewren wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

alittlewren wrote...
If anyone's interested and I have time later, I can upload the two versions to youtube. 


Please! :D


Okay, here's the two versions of the 3rd dream sequence that I saw, both with the same paragon Shepard, the only difference being two different dialogue options in the love scene preceeding. (Kaidan Love Scene, relaxed version appeared with "Everything?", distressed version appeared with "Absolutely.") Again, I don't know if both versions existed in the game pre-EC, but I can only find video in my files of the relaxed version pre-EC. 

Not sure if it would even have anything to do with IT, but I think it's pretty cool that subtle differences like this exist in the game, even if the significance is unclear. 

Relaxed Version: www.youtube.com/watch
Distressed Version: www.youtube.com/watch

Meh, mine's still uploading as I've included the conversation.
For me the distressed version appears with the top option, and relaxed with the bottom though. strange strange



#34720
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Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

You know, I'm thinking about Rejection, and I had a thought. Why doesn't Shepard have any flashes to the people s/he's fought with? I mean, you'd think that, seeing as how s/he just doomed everyone in the galaxy, s/he'd be thinking at least about his/her LI.

Because they don't show ANYTHING of what happens next. The next thing could be her waking up.


Yeah, like I said before, I could swear that I was about to see Shepard wake up after that epic speech.  But no, free will is destined to always lead to failure. :D


As it should. Revolutions are bad, no uprisings, live by the rules and please tone down the music.

This ending is brought to you by: Conservatives.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 29 juin 2012 - 09:31 .


#34721
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa who doesn't want to discuss with me. Posted Image

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->

And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.

In Destroy:

First -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=439s
Second -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=480s

Not sure if trolling...

So what was your point?

As Dwailing also told you: I was talking about the new visions, which are presented then choosing the investigate option.

Could you post links to them?

If you've got the bink player/rad video tools I could upload them I guess...

Better just post the path and filenames.

#34722
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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

You know, I'm thinking about Rejection, and I had a thought. Why doesn't Shepard have any flashes to the people s/he's fought with? I mean, you'd think that, seeing as how s/he just doomed everyone in the galaxy, s/he'd be thinking at least about his/her LI.

Because they don't show ANYTHING of what happens next. The next thing could be her waking up.


Yeah, like I said before, I could swear that I was about to see Shepard wake up after that epic speech.  But no, free will is destined to always lead to failure. :D


As it should. Revolutions are bad, no uprisings, live by the rules and please tone down the music.

This ending is brought to you by: Conservatives.


Ah yes "Conservatives", a group of kill joys that seem to never do anything useful, oh we have dismissed that claim. ;)

#34723
MegumiAzusa

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[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]MegumiAzusa wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]MegumiAzusa wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa who doesn't want to discuss with me. Posted Image

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]MegumiAzusa wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]MegumiAzusa wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

Reposting for MegumiAzusa. There are 2 visions in Control, not 1.

[quote]paxxton wrote...

First ->
Second ->
[/quote][/quote]
And you were still ignoring my post. I didn't include the TIM vision because it's irrelevant to the point I made.[/quote]
In Destroy:

First -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=439s
Second -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QX8rkQ508&t=480s[/quote]
Not sure if trolling...[/quote]
So what was your point?[/quote][/quote]
As Dwailing also told you: I was talking about the new visions, which are presented then choosing the investigate option.[/quote]
Could you post links to them?[/quote]
If you've got the bink player/rad video tools I could upload them I guess...[/quote]
Better just post the path and filenames.[/quote]
I already posted the filenames... but ok:
\\BIOGame\\DLC\\DLC_CON_END\\Movies\\
End002_Vis_RedVap.bik
End002_Vis_RedBad.bik
End002_Vis_BlueBad.bik
End002_Vis_GreenGood.bik

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Andromidius wrote...


I'm saying cables are found all over the galaxy.  But concrete is not.

Seriously, am I still arguing this basic point with you two?  Because honestly if you still don't understand it then there's no hope for you at all.

Therefore I'm done with you both.  I will not respond to insane troll logic anymore.


So what you're saying is, that in a science-fiction universe full of hyper-intelligent races, no other race in the galaxy has taken stone, or a stone-like substance, crumbled it down to use as an aggregate and combined it with a binder.  I don't think that's realistic.  In fact given all the scenes where you're walking through Tuchanka, Palaven, IIos, planet X or whatever, races seem to use 'stone-like' materials in the construction of their buildings everywhere.

Also we don't even know if it's concrete.  It shares the appearance of concrete.  But in the same way a tin can shares the same appearance as an aluminum can at a glance, or how vynyl might be indistinguishable from leather without a touch test. Polystyrene (styrofoam) and cork for example, is sometimes dyed or painted to look like concrete in films for special effects.   Plastic can be made to look like metal or glass, or even wood, without a touch test.  Synthetic fabrics can be indistinguishable natural fabrics without reading the label, etc. etc.

Is it concrete?  Is it some other material?  You don't know.  All you really know is that  It's a dark, porous material and it's simple to say that countless building materials probably exist on the Citadel, man-made or not.  People have built homes, shops, restaurants, and bars there, etc.   It's simple and requires a very minimal leap of logic.  Unlike other theories. ;)

Modifié par N-Seven, 29 juin 2012 - 09:45 .


#34725
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Hay did you all ready what I posted on page 1389.

I also would like to point out that the aircraft gunships and the makos all have cables and metal so that also could be aroud Shepard.