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[Starbuck8]

comrade gando wrote...

the control ending sounds like shepard stole illusive man's script and was reading it. he's definitely not the same shepard we've been playing the whole series...

synthesis sounds far far too good to be true. it's like ecstatically happy, like HAPPY HAPPY EVERYONE'S HAPPY NOW THAT THEY'RE ROBOTS!!!! YESSSSS! but the whole time it's actually scary, sickening even.

destroy is the one that makes the most sense I guess, even though it still makes little. why would the crucible just badly damage the relays but destroy the reapers? badly damaged.. sooo weak. also the only ending where shepard wakes up back on earth still, wtf? there's no way he survived. also the only ending where your LI doesn't put you name on the normandy wall.


then there's reject. first time harbinger was like SO BE IT, I was like "aha! busted! I knew it was you"... then he swiftly terminated my game. **** him.

we are still building a consensus...

I contend that destroy even has a dream-like/fantasy element to it. We have been told by Catalyst and devs that synthetics die in destroy. I think Shepard believes this, but we never see images of the geth dying or EDI dying or Joker grieving EDI or anything. They're not even mentioned by the narrator (Hacket) or anything. It's like they're showing us what we want to see/hear in all three of these endings (and carefully avoiding the negative reprecussions in each).

[DTKT]

Just to make something clear, some of you still believe in the IT ? Even after the EC?

Modifié par DTKT, 30 juin 2012 - 01:36 .

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

Well he doesn't fit the real definition of a troll. Or at least the one I was brought up on. I used to use USENET. Which is a totally decentralized, and in this case unmoderated board. There's seriously no control whatsoever. One time I was dumb enough to post my picture, and somebody photoshopped me... umm... "emerging" from the... "black hole" of goatse. Now that was a true troll. On highly moderated boards like this, you're a troll if you act dense and say weird stuff. Meh.

I used to be a moderator on a small forum about 10 years ago.  Back then there were goatse/rotten.com attacks every week.

/shudder

So glad things aren't so bad anymore.  Though I'm still mega-wary about picking on links due to bad experiences with screamers as a teenager.

[Rifneno]

DTKT wrote...

Just to make something clear, some of you still believe in the IT ? Even after the EC?

This one's quick on the uptake, no?  It's a real mystery how he didn't notice those clues in-game.

[Starbuck8]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

Also confirmed by alittlewren : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12047832/1388#12871248
The expression seems to be affected by your dialogue choice with LI just before the 3rd dream about being ready for the final battle.

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

I used to be a moderator on a small forum about 10 years ago.  Back then there were goatse/rotten.com attacks every week.

/shudder

So glad things aren't so bad anymore.  Though I'm still mega-wary about picking on links due to bad experiences with screamers as a teenager.

I think part of the decline is due to 2G1C.  That video did to shock links what the invention of nuclear weapons did to warfare.  Every forum is a cold war now.

[HellishFiend]

Rifneno wrote...
 Really we do a pretty good job of calling each other on it when we have a crackpot idea. Remember the other day and Paxxton's "so be it" idea? But even if we did need grounding, someone that's rather on the fence would be the one to do it. A hardcore literalist is not, because they're not being grounded themselves.

Second. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 30 juin 2012 - 01:40 .

[Turbo_J]

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

No, I'll catch it on the fresh playthrough I'm working on. I'm trying to get some clips togeth for our next video. I'm also looking out for 'new' EC material. I think the datamining probably covered 99% of it though. At least I caught the 'Mars' open to atmosphere before and after thing - post EC. That was cool. It always bugged me seeing mountains in the background when none of my team had helmets on. Cerberus could have killed us right there wihout firing a single shot.

[comrade gando]

Starbuck8 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

the control ending sounds like shepard stole illusive man's script and was reading it. he's definitely not the same shepard we've been playing the whole series...

synthesis sounds far far too good to be true. it's like ecstatically happy, like HAPPY HAPPY EVERYONE'S HAPPY NOW THAT THEY'RE ROBOTS!!!! YESSSSS! but the whole time it's actually scary, sickening even.

destroy is the one that makes the most sense I guess, even though it still makes little. why would the crucible just badly damage the relays but destroy the reapers? badly damaged.. sooo weak. also the only ending where shepard wakes up back on earth still, wtf? there's no way he survived. also the only ending where your LI doesn't put you name on the normandy wall.


then there's reject. first time harbinger was like SO BE IT, I was like "aha! busted! I knew it was you"... then he swiftly terminated my game. **** him.

we are still building a consensus...

I contend that destroy even has a dream-like/fantasy element to it. We have been told by Catalyst and devs that synthetics die in destroy. I think Shepard believes this, but we never see images of the geth dying or EDI dying or Joker grieving EDI or anything. They're not even mentioned by the narrator (Hacket) or anything. It's like they're showing us what we want to see/hear in all three of these endings (and carefully avoiding the negative reprecussions in each).

and I agree sir. these endings still make little sense, and judging by all the strange happening in the 20 minutes prior... were those there just for ****s and giggles? or...something else...

"rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. you touch my mind, fondling in ignorance, incapable of understanding"

[MegumiAzusa]

Starbuck8 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

Also confirmed by alittlewren : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12047832/1388#12871248
The expression seems to be affected by your dialogue choice with LI just before the 3rd dream about being ready for the final battle.

It is interesting to note however that for her the choice/effect combination is reversed, which could mean other choices can also affect this.

[Ghrelt]

DTKT wrote...

Just to make something clear, some of you still believe in the IT ? Even after the EC?

Affirmative.  Clear enough?

I don't expect you to believe it, so please leave me to my delusions...

Thank you.

[Rifneno]

HellishFiend wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
 Really we do a pretty good job of calling each other on it when we have a crackpot idea. Remember the other day and Paxxton's "so be it" idea? But even if we did need grounding, someone that's rather on the fence would be the one to do it. A hardcore literalist is not, because they're not being grounded themselves.

Second. 

Newly self-aware husk thirds!

[MegumiAzusa]

Starbuck8 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

the control ending sounds like shepard stole illusive man's script and was reading it. he's definitely not the same shepard we've been playing the whole series...

synthesis sounds far far too good to be true. it's like ecstatically happy, like HAPPY HAPPY EVERYONE'S HAPPY NOW THAT THEY'RE ROBOTS!!!! YESSSSS! but the whole time it's actually scary, sickening even.

destroy is the one that makes the most sense I guess, even though it still makes little. why would the crucible just badly damage the relays but destroy the reapers? badly damaged.. sooo weak. also the only ending where shepard wakes up back on earth still, wtf? there's no way he survived. also the only ending where your LI doesn't put you name on the normandy wall.


then there's reject. first time harbinger was like SO BE IT, I was like "aha! busted! I knew it was you"... then he swiftly terminated my game. **** him.

we are still building a consensus...

I contend that destroy even has a dream-like/fantasy element to it. We have been told by Catalyst and devs that synthetics die in destroy. I think Shepard believes this, but we never see images of the geth dying or EDI dying or Joker grieving EDI or anything. They're not even mentioned by the narrator (Hacket) or anything. It's like they're showing us what we want to see/hear in all three of these endings (and carefully avoiding the negative reprecussions in each).

EDI was on the wall, other than that: yes.

[Starbuck8]

Turbo_J wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

No, I'll catch it on the fresh playthrough I'm working on. I'm trying to get some clips togeth for our next video. I'm also looking out for 'new' EC material. I think the datamining probably covered 99% of it though. At least I caught the 'Mars' open to atmosphere before and after thing - post EC. That was cool. It always bugged me seeing mountains in the background when none of my team had helmets on. Cerberus could have killed us right there wihout firing a single shot.

Ok, keep in mind that the LI dialogue choice just prior to the third dream affects it. I'm wondering if top/bottom ("paragon"/"renegade") dialogue choices have other effects near the ending (london view bob perhaps?), especially post-EC. It feels like near the end top dialogue choices are associated more with misgivings, and bottom choices with confidence/surety.

[Andromidius]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

All I can say is...

Wow, non-Liaramancers got the shaft.

[MegumiAzusa]

Turbo_J wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

No, I'll catch it on the fresh playthrough I'm working on. I'm trying to get some clips togeth for our next video. I'm also looking out for 'new' EC material. I think the datamining probably covered 99% of it though. At least I caught the 'Mars' open to atmosphere before and after thing - post EC. That was cool. It always bugged me seeing mountains in the background when none of my team had helmets on. Cerberus could have killed us right there wihout firing a single shot.

http://social.biowar...2/1374#12865663

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

All I can say is...

Wow, non-Liaramancers got the shaft.

No, Liara has no shaft.  You must be thinking of Garrus.  He has reach.

[MegumiAzusa]

Andromidius wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

All I can say is...

Wow, non-Liaramancers got the shaft.

Le what?

[Starbuck8]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

Also confirmed by alittlewren : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12047832/1388#12871248
The expression seems to be affected by your dialogue choice with LI just before the 3rd dream about being ready for the final battle.

It is interesting to note however that for her the choice/effect combination is reversed, which could mean other choices can also affect this.

Ah that's right. And that's why I'm wondering about other dialogue choices affecting things at the end (see my post just above).

[Turbo_J]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

the control ending sounds like shepard stole illusive man's script and was reading it. he's definitely not the same shepard we've been playing the whole series...

synthesis sounds far far too good to be true. it's like ecstatically happy, like HAPPY HAPPY EVERYONE'S HAPPY NOW THAT THEY'RE ROBOTS!!!! YESSSSS! but the whole time it's actually scary, sickening even.

destroy is the one that makes the most sense I guess, even though it still makes little. why would the crucible just badly damage the relays but destroy the reapers? badly damaged.. sooo weak. also the only ending where shepard wakes up back on earth still, wtf? there's no way he survived. also the only ending where your LI doesn't put you name on the normandy wall.


then there's reject. first time harbinger was like SO BE IT, I was like "aha! busted! I knew it was you"... then he swiftly terminated my game. **** him.

we are still building a consensus...

I contend that destroy even has a dream-like/fantasy element to it. We have been told by Catalyst and devs that synthetics die in destroy. I think Shepard believes this, but we never see images of the geth dying or EDI dying or Joker grieving EDI or anything. They're not even mentioned by the narrator (Hacket) or anything. It's like they're showing us what we want to see/hear in all three of these endings (and carefully avoiding the negative reprecussions in each).

EDI was on the wall, other than that: yes.

Shepard isn't mentioned either. Charming IT Clue...

Modifié par Turbo_J, 30 juin 2012 - 01:49 .

[Turbo_J]

Starbuck8 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

Also confirmed by alittlewren : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12047832/1388#12871248
The expression seems to be affected by your dialogue choice with LI just before the 3rd dream about being ready for the final battle.

It is interesting to note however that for her the choice/effect combination is reversed, which could mean other choices can also affect this.

Ah that's right. And that's why I'm wondering about other dialogue choices affecting things at the end (see my post just above).

*Reputation*

Why was it suddenly added to Mass Effect?

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

I used to be a moderator on a small forum about 10 years ago.  Back then there were goatse/rotten.com attacks every week.

/shudder

So glad things aren't so bad anymore.  Though I'm still mega-wary about picking on links due to bad experiences with screamers as a teenager.

I think part of the decline is due to 2G1C.  That video did to shock links what the invention of nuclear weapons did to warfare.  Every forum is a cold war now.

Is it weird that I wasn't overly grossed out by that video?  I mean it wasn't pleasent, but rotten.com stuff is so much worse for me.

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

All I can say is...

Wow, non-Liaramancers got the shaft.

No, Liara has no shaft.  You must be thinking of Garrus.  He has reach.

That's a whole new realm of possibilities...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Le what?

Liara's scene is much...'better'...then the others I've seen.

Turbo_J wrote...

*Reputation*

Why was it suddenly added to Mass Effect?

You know, I still can't work out what that was for.  Did it merely effect your Paragon/Renegade points?

Modifié par Andromidius, 30 juin 2012 - 01:55 .

[DJBare]

I have my doubts about destroy now, and the other options are definitely off the list as far as my canon is concerned, but my reason for doubting destroy is that the AI tells us about the option, this is also the greatest indoctrination threat, Shepard's goal throughout the series has been to destroy the reapers, reapers use a victims greatest desires and twists them through indoctrination, if this is Bioware's plan then they have done a good job on me, on my first play through(before EC) I chose synthesis out of confusion and loyalty to EDI and the Geth, by the time I started my second play through(before EC), destroy was definitely the only option I'd take, but after EC, well as I said, the doubts have set in.

[MegumiAzusa]

Turbo_J wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Turbo
Have you seen the videos showing Shep's new expression in the third dream?

what madness is this? link plox

Also confirmed by alittlewren : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12047832/1388#12871248
The expression seems to be affected by your dialogue choice with LI just before the 3rd dream about being ready for the final battle.

It is interesting to note however that for her the choice/effect combination is reversed, which could mean other choices can also affect this.

Ah that's right. And that's why I'm wondering about other dialogue choices affecting things at the end (see my post just above).

*Reputation*

Why was it suddenly added to Mass Effect?

Reputation in itself should only be a value that affects how known you are and therefor if you can use charm/intimidate options. This was done so even a mostly paragon Shep can do a badass move that usually only renegade Sheps can do and vice versa. Paragon/Renegade score in itself is just a percentage how paragon or renegade you are but shouldn't be that relevant anymore. (BW didn't want it anymore that you would have to choose exclusively to get the real cool stuff at the end of the game, which makes sense and is imo the better system)