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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#35451
gunslinger_ruiz

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So this is a weird page to read in the middle of the night.

Anyway, noticed those London/Donovan Hock paintings are also on Eden Prime during Javik's mission. So, reused assets for sure, but odd looking ones also.


EDIT: PS Insanity mode is Nuts. But fun with a level 60 and X weapons.

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#35452
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Sorry I justcan't form a cosensues right noowws so ya I am gooing to bed and HellishFiend that was a joke. EDI/.

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Dani_saur wrote...

All right, here goes nothing...

This is my first post to any kind of forum in...well...ever, so hopefully I don't mess this up too badly and apologies if I do. I'm actually kind of nervous :D I just wanted to let all of you wonderful people know that I've been following this thread (in lurker mode) since the very first post of the original thread and I am constantly baffled by how amazingly intelligent you all are. I would have never thought of these things on my own. I know this post isn't much of a contribution to the thread as a whole, but I figured I would let you know that you're awesome-ness has somehow cracked the shell of a painfully shy lurker that second guesses everything she types. In fact, this post is taking me a really long time to type out what with all of my revisions and whatnot =] (Am I using the smileys right? Oh well...)

Anyway, just wanted to say that when I finished the game for the first time, I was crushed. I came to these forums to read what others had to say, eventually saw the first thread and, needless to say, some faith in humanity was restored. Then the EC came out and I was, again, crushed albeit not as badly, but the pain was there. Yet again (and I really don't know how you guys do this), your posts gave me hope. I may not be able to contribute anything substantial (and I'm probably making this longer than it should be), but I'm pretty sure you guys have that covered anyway so...back to lurker mode :)



Always makes me happy to hear that we're helping people out by doing something we enjoy. :) Dont stay away too long, we can always use another friendly face! We dont have speculation quotas. :P

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Damn all of you... Now I'm replaying Harbinger's "serve us" over and over...

And after doing so, it seems like there are actually THREE syllables. Kinda sounds like "Serve-a-dis"

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BlazingZephyr wrote...

Damn all of you... Now I'm replaying Harbinger's "serve us" over and over...

And after doing so, it seems like there are actually THREE syllables. Kinda sounds like "Serve-a-dis"


My sleep-addled brain is telling me serve-a-dis sounds like Cerberus, but thats probably not right.

Anyways, I'm going to bed for real this time.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

So this is a weird page to read in the middle of the night.

Anyway, noticed those London/Donovan Hock paintings are also on Eden Prime during Javik's mission. So, reused assets for sure, but odd looking ones also.


EDIT: PS Insanity mode is Nuts. But fun with a level 60 and X weapons.


Ahh, good find. That probably rules out those paintings as being significant, then. They could still be there as figments from Shep's memory, but it's not as significant if theyre not only seen in London. 

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Is it madness to see the future? To see the destruction rushing towards us? To understand there is no escape, no hope? No, I am not mad, I AM THE ONLY SANE ONE LEFT!:o

... I d-don't know what came over me.. :unsure:


Actually, there was that one dream where I dreamt that i slept and a Destroyer class Reaper was standing right outside my bedroom window, looking in, as I woke up to a reaper horn.

Then I woke up for real.

True story. It was in March in the middle of my first playthrough. I often get nightmares when I'm wound up about something.

@HellishFiend I'm using headphones so they can probably not produce infrasound. Wonder what that would be like on a loop, though... Posted Image

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byne wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Damn all of you... Now I'm replaying Harbinger's "serve us" over and over...

And after doing so, it seems like there are actually THREE syllables. Kinda sounds like "Serve-a-dis"


My sleep-addled brain is telling me serve-a-dis sounds like Cerberus, but thats probably not right.

Anyways, I'm going to bed for real this time.


I was thinking the same thing, but that doesn't make sense...

More replaying is required. *replays more*

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HellishFiend wrote...

Dani_saur wrote...

All right, here goes nothing...

This is my first post to any kind of forum in...well...ever, so hopefully I don't mess this up too badly and apologies if I do. I'm actually kind of nervous :D I just wanted to let all of you wonderful people know that I've been following this thread (in lurker mode) since the very first post of the original thread and I am constantly baffled by how amazingly intelligent you all are. I would have never thought of these things on my own. I know this post isn't much of a contribution to the thread as a whole, but I figured I would let you know that you're awesome-ness has somehow cracked the shell of a painfully shy lurker that second guesses everything she types. In fact, this post is taking me a really long time to type out what with all of my revisions and whatnot =] (Am I using the smileys right? Oh well...)

Anyway, just wanted to say that when I finished the game for the first time, I was crushed. I came to these forums to read what others had to say, eventually saw the first thread and, needless to say, some faith in humanity was restored. Then the EC came out and I was, again, crushed albeit not as badly, but the pain was there. Yet again (and I really don't know how you guys do this), your posts gave me hope. I may not be able to contribute anything substantial (and I'm probably making this longer than it should be), but I'm pretty sure you guys have that covered anyway so...back to lurker mode :)



Always makes me happy to hear that we're helping people out by doing something we enjoy. :) Dont stay away too long, we can always use another friendly face! We dont have speculation quotas. :P


You've been a major help and I thank you kindly for it. I'll try to post some more if I have any ideas or maybe just to remind everyone how awesome they are. And who knows? Maybe I'll actually get the hang of this whole posting thing :D

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Arian Dynas

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Dani_saur wrote...

All right, here goes nothing...

This is my first post to any kind of forum in...well...ever, so hopefully I don't mess this up too badly and apologies if I do. I'm actually kind of nervous :D I just wanted to let all of you wonderful people know that I've been following this thread (in lurker mode) since the very first post of the original thread and I am constantly baffled by how amazingly intelligent you all are. I would have never thought of these things on my own. I know this post isn't much of a contribution to the thread as a whole, but I figured I would let you know that you're awesome-ness has somehow cracked the shell of a painfully shy lurker that second guesses everything she types. In fact, this post is taking me a really long time to type out what with all of my revisions and whatnot =] (Am I using the smileys right? Oh well...)

Anyway, just wanted to say that when I finished the game for the first time, I was crushed. I came to these forums to read what others had to say, eventually saw the first thread and, needless to say, some faith in humanity was restored. Then the EC came out and I was, again, crushed albeit not as badly, but the pain was there. Yet again (and I really don't know how you guys do this), your posts gave me hope. I may not be able to contribute anything substantial (and I'm probably making this longer than it should be), but I'm pretty sure you guys have that covered anyway so...back to lurker mode :)



Don't sell yourself short. Even I feel this at times, and rarely, if ever notice when I am saying something others apparently find profound.

And don't be so nervous, this isn't some kind of alternative counter culture where you need to know the secret handshakes to get in, just follow Wil Wheaton's motto; "Don't be a dick." 8=/=D

Smileys are used to denote emotion and tone, so if you are using the one that matches your intended emotion or tone, you're using them right. :happy:

And don't worry about taking up space. I do alot of it, and no one really minds that I'm full of hot air. Lex0r doesn't really provide anything "substantial" as you put it, and yet we would be lost without him, so have no worries, we're not going to stake you to the wall for commiting an internet faux pas.

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byne wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Damn all of you... Now I'm replaying Harbinger's "serve us" over and over...

And after doing so, it seems like there are actually THREE syllables. Kinda sounds like "Serve-a-dis"


My sleep-addled brain is telling me serve-a-dis sounds like Cerberus, but thats probably not right.

Anyways, I'm going to bed for real this time.


I was sure I was crazy when the same idea occured to me.

Cer-ber-us

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Not to be a party pooper, but I think this thread should cease.

Unless the theory of indoctrination applies to the player, seeing the results of Shepard's actions, then there should be nothing to talk about. And if the theory does apply to the player, then you should be discredited, lol.

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Cecilia L wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Is it madness to see the future? To see the destruction rushing towards us? To understand there is no escape, no hope? No, I am not mad, I AM THE ONLY SANE ONE LEFT!:o

... I d-don't know what came over me.. :unsure:


Actually, there was that one dream where I dreamt that i slept and a Destroyer class Reaper was standing right outside my bedroom window, looking in, as I woke up to a reaper horn.

Then I woke up for real.

True story. It was in March in the middle of my first playthrough. I often get nightmares when I'm wound up about something.

@HellishFiend I'm using headphones so they can probably not produce infrasound. Wonder what that would be like on a loop, though... Posted Image


Creepy.


As for infrasound on a loop, don't try it, it DOES cause brain damage. In real life.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 30 juin 2012 - 09:08 .


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Does the infra-sound on the normandy only occur on the normandy?

#35465
HellishFiend

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Dani_saur wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Always makes me happy to hear that we're helping people out by doing something we enjoy. :) Dont stay away too long, we can always use another friendly face! We dont have speculation quotas. :P


You've been a major help and I thank you kindly for it. I'll try to post some more if I have any ideas or maybe just to remind everyone how awesome they are. And who knows? Maybe I'll actually get the hang of this whole posting thing :D


Hope so! I'll take friendly first, helpful is optional and can come later. :lol:

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HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Too many posts to go through since yesterday, so if this has already been bought up please excuse me.

I downloaded this youtube of the run to the beam to make it more convenient listening to what Harby was saying, certainly does not sound like "serve" to me, anyway that's not the point of this post really, what was interesting was Harby following the Normandy with it's eyes as it took off, Harby was definitely taking notice of it leaving but taking no action to prevent it.


Hmm, I still hear "serve", but maybe it's just because that's what I'd like it to be. And yeah, the camera takes special attention to indicate what Harby is looking at, and when. BW made it a point to show that Harby deliberately let the Normandy go. And that is just one of the many things that call that entire scene into doubt. 

You may be part right, it does begin with "s" I've been adjusting the pitch and filtering a bit in Goldwave, I've got a file but no where to upload it conveniently, any suggestions?

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I'm just gonna randomly throw out my latest interpretation of Harby every now and then, if that's alright.

Yes? Good.

"Some of this...."

OR

"Serve with us"

Modifié par BlazingZephyr, 30 juin 2012 - 09:09 .


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JezuzGumball wrote...

Does the infra-sound on the normandy only occur on the normandy?


Check out Sounds of Possession if you havent seen it yet. :)

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KillerJudgement wrote...Not to be a party pooper, but I think this thread should cease.


Not to be a buzzkill, but thank you for your opinion, now kindly GTFO.

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DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Too many posts to go through since yesterday, so if this has already been bought up please excuse me.

I downloaded this youtube of the run to the beam to make it more convenient listening to what Harby was saying, certainly does not sound like "serve" to me, anyway that's not the point of this post really, what was interesting was Harby following the Normandy with it's eyes as it took off, Harby was definitely taking notice of it leaving but taking no action to prevent it.


Hmm, I still hear "serve", but maybe it's just because that's what I'd like it to be. And yeah, the camera takes special attention to indicate what Harby is looking at, and when. BW made it a point to show that Harby deliberately let the Normandy go. And that is just one of the many things that call that entire scene into doubt. 

You may be part right, it does begin with "s" I've been adjusting the pitch and filtering a bit in Goldwave, I've got a file but no where to upload it conveniently, any suggestions?


Skydrive is fairly easy to use. If you have a live/hotmail account, you have a skydrive automatically. 

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Arian Dynas wrote...

KillerJudgement wrote...Not to be a party pooper, but I think this thread should cease.


Not to be a buzzkill, but thank you for your opinion, now kindly GTFO.

Be nice now Arian, not everyone has the ability to think outside the box ;)

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Has a consensus been reached for what it says at 55s? Or is that just Harby summoning Cthulhu?

The more I listen to it, it sound more and more like "Serve us", though the "r" is a bit too pronounced for 'normal Harby accent'.

Modifié par Cecilia L, 30 juin 2012 - 09:17 .


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KillerJudgement wrote...

Not to be a party pooper, but I think this thread should cease.

Unless the theory of indoctrination applies to the player, seeing the results of Shepard's actions, then there should be nothing to talk about. And if the theory does apply to the player, then you should be discredited, lol.


"It has a mute; use it."

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HellishFiend wrote...

JezuzGumball wrote...

Does the infra-sound on the normandy only occur on the normandy?


Check out Sounds of Possession if you havent seen it yet. :)


That's very interesting. Watching this made me think, though I bet others have noticed.. but the ambience during the dream when the boy is burning, the ambience sounds very similar when you are making the final choice on the citadel

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DJBare wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

KillerJudgement wrote...Not to be a party pooper, but I think this thread should cease.


Not to be a buzzkill, but thank you for your opinion, now kindly GTFO.

Be nice now Arian, not everyone has the ability to think outside the box ;)


You want thinking outside the box? I'll give ya thinking outside the box, I got a GM who tells this story to anyone who asks, bastard. <_<

I was playing an RPG with a guy who is now a real good buddy of mine, basically this kind of sci-fi thing where my character was a government test subject, very Weapon X, amnesia ad all, he got wolverine style regeneration and was a bit of a gun nut, with some compunctions about needles. And doctors.

Anyway, I get thrown in a shooting gallery filled with motion controlled guns, need to get to the other end and press a button, I'm handed a nice little selection of guns filled with riot bullets, the kind made of rubber that are supposed to bounce and hurt like all hell, but not actually kill anyone.

Anyway, I hop from cover to cover, get half way about there and then the guns shut down and a door opens up, bouncing in comes this guy who looks like Doomsday from the Superman comics, jumping around looking for me like an enormous murderous kangaroo, anyway, I try to get to the button as fast as I can, doing a mad dash, throwing grenades over my shoulder as I go, one even ripping half this's guy's face off, he picks up an oil drum when I'm about 7 feet from the button, pitches it at me and catches me full in the back, shattering my spine and pitching me chest first into the button, the guns come on all at once and shred the guy with bullets, then run out, I start piecing my spine back together, the scientists congratulate me via intercom, and then one bastard has a question.

"Subject 33179, why didn't you just shoot the button?"