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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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DJBare

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There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.

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So can someone give me a summary of where the theory is at post-EC? I'd like to know.. for science.

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Cecilia L wrote...

Has a consensus been reached for what it says at 55s? Or is that just Harby summoning Cthulhu?


I'm thinking:

"Serve with us"

"Service us"

last two syllables definitely sound like "With us"

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JezuzGumball wrote...

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JezuzGumball wrote...

Does the infra-sound on the normandy only occur on the normandy?


Check out Sounds of Possession if you havent seen it yet. :)


That's very interesting. Watching this made me think, though I bet others have noticed.. but the ambience during the dream when the boy is burning, the ambience sounds very similar when you are making the final choice on the citadel


Yep, and it is also noteworthy that the notes used during the music of the dream sequences are all notes from Leaving Earth/An End.

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Arian Dynas wrote...
"Subject 33179, why didn't you just shoot the button?"


You just started my day off with the best laugh ever.

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leonia42 wrote...

So can someone give me a summary of where the theory is at post-EC? I'd like to know.. for science.


Neither confirmed nor denied, some of us remain in the camp that Reject is either Shepard;

A). Being wise enough to not be seduced by Control or Synthesis, yet lacking in the conviction necessary to stick it to the Star Child and pick Destroy

or

B). (The one I am really liking now) that Shepard is merely attempting to carry on as usual, denying that he is indoctrinated and being killed by Harbinger for it.

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DJBare wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
"Subject 33179, why didn't you just shoot the button?"


You just started my day off with the best laugh ever.


I seriously wanted to punch him right there. <_<

But, well I didn't and I ended up becoming friends with a mad scientist. :happy:

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DJBare wrote...

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There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 

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leonia42 wrote...

So can someone give me a summary of where the theory is at post-EC? I'd like to know.. for science.


http://social.biowar...ndex/12814321/1

Interesting stuff about Mako arrival at Citadel.

Modifié par Cecilia L, 30 juin 2012 - 09:24 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 


But I can clearly (but NOT clearly) hear three syllables...

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DJBare wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
"Subject 33179, why didn't you just shoot the button?"


You just started my day off with the best laugh ever.


Yeah that got me a solid chuckle, thanks Arian XD

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HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

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There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 

Give it a moment, there is another word that fits when you consider what the AI did to the original race against their will.

Modifié par DJBare, 30 juin 2012 - 09:25 .


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BlazingZephyr wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 


But I can clearly (but NOT clearly) hear three syllables...


I hear two, and the cadence seems to suggest two as well....

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BlazingZephyr wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 


But I can clearly (but NOT clearly) hear three syllables...

I cut out the first part.

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DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 

Give it a moment, there is another word that fits when you consider what the AI did to the original race against their will.


So you think Harby is trying to set him up to believe the Catalyst's story?

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HellishFiend wrote...


So you think Harby is trying to set him up to believe the Catalyst's story?


Nope, I don't think Harby is trying to do anything of the sort, Harby letting the Normandy go is another clue.

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HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 

Someone should slow it down. Maybe we can make it out letter by letter.

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DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 

Give it a moment, there is another word that fits when you consider what the AI did to the original race against their will.


I agree with Zephyr, there sounds like there is another syllable, I can even still hear Cerberus.

But either way, it still comes down to the other problem, this is a fad on youtube, and after listening to "What's up honeybunch?" for ten minutes someone can hear "What's a penny bench?"

We're not going to get much out of listening to it over and over again, since I can hear "Save us" "Join us" "Serve us" "Cerberus" and "malybus" it's too distorted to make out.

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DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rapidshare.com/files/831968766/HarbyWords.rar

There you go, it's wav format 16 bit pcm, listen to it over and over, I would like to see if anyone reached the same conclusion as me, btw it's NOT "help" as I previously thought.


It really does sound like "S_ve us", and since "Serve us" would make the most sense, that's what I'm thinking it is. 

Give it a moment, there is another word that fits when you consider what the AI did to the original race against their will.

Which word? I am not good in hearing out stuff. I barely make out "S've usss!"

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Maybe... "Join with us"?

BTW, I've been using this as a reference...

Modifié par BlazingZephyr, 30 juin 2012 - 09:31 .


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I think it's possible Harbinger is speaking the language of the Husks/Reapers that we learn about in The Illusive Man's comic---I forget the name---so it would be something we couldn't understand unless we've interfaced with a Reaper artifact..or...unless we're indoctrinated. . . . . . o_o

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Arian Dynas wrote...


We're not going to get much out of listening to it over and over again, since I can hear "Save us" "Join us" "Serve us" "Cerberus" and "malybus" it's too distorted to make out.


Uh huh.

Look, most of us have been conditioned that Harbinger is the enemy, yet it's the AI that states quite clearly he controls them, they are it's solution, Harbinger is a slave just as any indoctrinated being is.

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DJBare wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


We're not going to get much out of listening to it over and over again, since I can hear "Save us" "Join us" "Serve us" "Cerberus" and "malybus" it's too distorted to make out.


Uh huh.

Look, most of us have been conditioned that Harbinger is the enemy, yet it's the AI that states quite clearly he controls them, they are it's solution, Harbinger is a slave just as any indoctrinated being is.


Which, by the way, gives us even less reason to trust the so called Catalyst. Whom I still believe is Harbinger.

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But basically, what I AM saying, is that it is so distorted that we, being conditioned to hear what we expect, could pull anything out of that garbled mess.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

I agree with Zephyr, there sounds like there is another syllable, I can even still hear Cerberus.

But either way, it still comes down to the other problem, this is a fad on youtube, and after listening to "What's up honeybunch?" for ten minutes someone can hear "What's a penny bench?"

We're not going to get much out of listening to it over and over again, since I can hear "Save us" "Join us" "Serve us" "Cerberus" and "malybus" it's too distorted to make out.


No, the cadence suggests two syllables. Distorted or not, that much is clear. Cant be Cerberus. 

I'm looking at the waveform and I see three peaks, but that doesnt mean three syllables. The first two peaks are part of the same syllable.