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[BansheeOwnage]

Galbrant wrote...

I've gotten to thinking.... If the catalyst controls the reapers, what would happen if the Citadel is destroyed? I've gotten to think that if Shepard chooses Destroyed ending. He's not causing some giant EMP Wave.. but sabotaging, the citadel killing the catalyst, the brain I mean why else would you shoot a pipe? Bah maybe I am over thinking it.

Ineresting idea.

[Andromidius]

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

they have keith szarabajka doing voice over for "additional voices".. why didn't harbinger say anythign??

Hmm.  Has anyone tried pitch-shifting Starbinger's dialogue?  Because honestly I can't imagine a child recording those lines, and it doesn't sound quite right (even ignoring the two Shepard echos).

It would be a massive twist if he recorded the lines, and then had them altered into a boy's voice

While I find that that was clearly a child (there are good child voice actors out there) and don't know if it's technically even possible to simulate a child's voice by pitch shifting, I find your idea intriguing.
Would be quite the twist.

Wouldnt ordinary pitch shifting just make them sound like they've been huffing helium? 

Probably, yeah.  It would take a huge amount of effort to alter it convincingly.

Hense why its a real stretch!

Other alternative is its a woman doing the voice, who's putting on a boy's voice.  Would explain why the Refuse Stargazer Child's voice sounds a little feminine.

[BansheeOwnage]

I think I can confirm that the kid is indeed voiced my a kid. Sorry no harbinger. Oh well.

[RealStyli]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

they have keith szarabajka doing voice over for "additional voices".. why didn't harbinger say anythign??

Hmm.  Has anyone tried pitch-shifting Starbinger's dialogue?  Because honestly I can't imagine a child recording those lines, and it doesn't sound quite right (even ignoring the two Shepard echos).

It would be a massive twist if he recorded the lines, and then had them altered into a boy's voice

While I find that that was clearly a child (there are good child voice actors out there) and don't know if it's technically even possible to simulate a child's voice by pitch shifting, I find your idea intriguing.
Would be quite the twist.

Wouldnt ordinary pitch shifting just make them sound like they've been huffing helium? 

Yeah lol.

It depends on the amount of pitch shifting, the algorithm and whether you maintain duration. South Park uses pitch shifting all the time. Even a semitone in either direction makes a huge change. However, it's more common to get a female to do a child's voice. It sounds more natural when pitch shifted.

[FellishBeast]

Vaya wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I'm not sure if this is significant, but I remember reading in the Leviathan DLC text something about the Leviathan deserving the same punishment as the devil, or something along those lines. It seems that hell is somewhat of a theme here, as we are assuming the Leviathan referred to in this DLC is also the Leviathan of Dis, which basically means the beast from hell.

Edit: It sounds like something along the lines of a "fallen" Reaper. I guess Reapers are angels. 

...doing the Catalyst's work...oh, please no...

The edit line was not entirely serious, but I was just pointing out the symbolism. I'm wondering who gave the LoD its name.

Because it was found on Jartar in the Dis system. Leviathan, biblical origins aside, is generally used for something of extrordinary size.

Correct. I was referring to the use of "Dis," which is a city from the Divine Comedy. I didn't realize it was a system, too.

[insomniak9]

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Modifié par insomniak9, 30 juin 2012 - 07:46 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Andromidius wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

they have keith szarabajka doing voice over for "additional voices".. why didn't harbinger say anythign??

Hmm.  Has anyone tried pitch-shifting Starbinger's dialogue?  Because honestly I can't imagine a child recording those lines, and it doesn't sound quite right (even ignoring the two Shepard echos).

It would be a massive twist if he recorded the lines, and then had them altered into a boy's voice

While I find that that was clearly a child (there are good child voice actors out there) and don't know if it's technically even possible to simulate a child's voice by pitch shifting, I find your idea intriguing.
Would be quite the twist.

Wouldnt ordinary pitch shifting just make them sound like they've been huffing helium? 

Probably, yeah.  It would take a huge amount of effort to alter it convincingly.

Hense why its a real stretch!

Other alternative is its a woman doing the voice, who's putting on a boy's voice.  Would explain why the Refuse Stargazer Child's voice sounds a little feminine.

Could be a woman but I honestly doubt it.

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I think I can confirm that the kid is indeed voiced my a kid. Sorry no harbinger. Oh well.

What about the Rannoch Reaper? Could it be Mark Meer's voice?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

FellishBeast wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I'm not sure if this is significant, but I remember reading in the Leviathan DLC text something about the Leviathan deserving the same punishment as the devil, or something along those lines. It seems that hell is somewhat of a theme here, as we are assuming the Leviathan referred to in this DLC is also the Leviathan of Dis, which basically means the beast from hell.

Edit: It sounds like something along the lines of a "fallen" Reaper. I guess Reapers are angels. 

...doing the Catalyst's work...oh, please no...

Yeah really. One of my biggest problems (as go for many I would guess) with the ending is the Catalyst. The way he is explained we might as well remove any blame from the Reapers...you know who we have fought for 2 and 0.99/1 games...and placing it all on him since he is in control.

Sovereign and Harbinger never made any hints towards this, they seemed perfectly in control of thier actions. And frankly that is how I want to face the Reapers. let me blow a bullet (from a very big gun) down Reapers spine one by one and know that ever time I pull the trigger I am avenging countless and countless deaths caused by their twisted minds as well as preventing countless more from happening.

Dont heap it all on a last second "main villian" with little to know build up and remove the demonity from the Reapers, just dont.

I don't know where you got that from anything I said...but okay. I'm just saying that based on the name and dialogue, this "Leviathan" sounds like a pretty bad dude.

If this is some sort of "fallen" Reaper, it would be so from the Reapers' perspective, as they seem to feel their conquest is righteous. I've seen a few stories that portray "heavenly" forces as being evil in a way by doing anything for the sake of order.

Oh dont get me wrong, the idea of a rogue Reaper is extremely fascinating to me...as long as it dosent simply tell me it broke away from catalyst control...

[Andromidius]

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Well that's quite the oversight.  Or another hint that its not real.

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I think I can confirm that the kid is indeed voiced my a kid. Sorry no harbinger. Oh well.

What about the Rannoch Reaper? Could it be Mark Meer's voice?

Hmm.

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

they have keith szarabajka doing voice over for "additional voices".. why didn't harbinger say anythign??

Hmm.  Has anyone tried pitch-shifting Starbinger's dialogue?  Because honestly I can't imagine a child recording those lines, and it doesn't sound quite right (even ignoring the two Shepard echos).

It would be a massive twist if he recorded the lines, and then had them altered into a boy's voice

While I find that that was clearly a child (there are good child voice actors out there) and don't know if it's technically even possible to simulate a child's voice by pitch shifting, I find your idea intriguing.
Would be quite the twist.

Wouldnt ordinary pitch shifting just make them sound like they've been huffing helium? 

Yeah, but I keep thinking about something along the lines of how they created Clu for Tron Legacy, just with voices...

Ok, I'm dropping this, as it's a financially highly improbable scenario. Hiring a kid is a cheaper, me thinks.

[FellishBeast]

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

You're right. Interesting...

Also, it might be the angle, but it looks like Harbinger teleports to the right of the screen, or isn't there at all when the "beam" hits the mako.

[FellishBeast]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I'm not sure if this is significant, but I remember reading in the Leviathan DLC text something about the Leviathan deserving the same punishment as the devil, or something along those lines. It seems that hell is somewhat of a theme here, as we are assuming the Leviathan referred to in this DLC is also the Leviathan of Dis, which basically means the beast from hell.

Edit: It sounds like something along the lines of a "fallen" Reaper. I guess Reapers are angels. 

...doing the Catalyst's work...oh, please no...

Yeah really. One of my biggest problems (as go for many I would guess) with the ending is the Catalyst. The way he is explained we might as well remove any blame from the Reapers...you know who we have fought for 2 and 0.99/1 games...and placing it all on him since he is in control.

Sovereign and Harbinger never made any hints towards this, they seemed perfectly in control of thier actions. And frankly that is how I want to face the Reapers. let me blow a bullet (from a very big gun) down Reapers spine one by one and know that ever time I pull the trigger I am avenging countless and countless deaths caused by their twisted minds as well as preventing countless more from happening.

Dont heap it all on a last second "main villian" with little to know build up and remove the demonity from the Reapers, just dont.

I don't know where you got that from anything I said...but okay. I'm just saying that based on the name and dialogue, this "Leviathan" sounds like a pretty bad dude.

If this is some sort of "fallen" Reaper, it would be so from the Reapers' perspective, as they seem to feel their conquest is righteous. I've seen a few stories that portray "heavenly" forces as being evil in a way by doing anything for the sake of order.

Oh dont get me wrong, the idea of a rogue Reaper is extremely fascinating to me...as long as it dosent simply tell me it broke away from catalyst control...

I still don't know what this has to do with what I said...

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Well that's quite the oversight.  Or another hint that its not real.

Off-discussion, I'm quite sure Harby says "Save Us."

[HellishFiend]

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Yeah, I noticed that. That's one of the many things wrong with the Normandy Rescue scene. 

[byne]

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

they have keith szarabajka doing voice over for "additional voices".. why didn't harbinger say anythign??

Hmm.  Has anyone tried pitch-shifting Starbinger's dialogue?  Because honestly I can't imagine a child recording those lines, and it doesn't sound quite right (even ignoring the two Shepard echos).

It would be a massive twist if he recorded the lines, and then had them altered into a boy's voice

While I find that that was clearly a child (there are good child voice actors out there) and don't know if it's technically even possible to simulate a child's voice by pitch shifting, I find your idea intriguing.
Would be quite the twist.

Wouldnt ordinary pitch shifting just make them sound like they've been huffing helium? 

Yeah, but I keep thinking about something along the lines of how they created Clu for Tron Legacy, just with voices...

Ok, I'm dropping this, as it's a financially highly improbable scenario. Hiring a kid is a cheaper, me thinks.

I wonder how that kid feels about being one of the most hated video game characters in years? Has he seen all the videos of people shooting his character? Must suck for him.

[insomniak9]

Andromidius wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Well that's quite the oversight.  Or another hint that its not real.

In this video (pre-EC), every single beam has a perfect Reaper beam noise, except the one that hits you 

Run to Harby!

[MaximizedAction]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I'm not sure if this is significant, but I remember reading in the Leviathan DLC text something about the Leviathan deserving the same punishment as the devil, or something along those lines. It seems that hell is somewhat of a theme here, as we are assuming the Leviathan referred to in this DLC is also the Leviathan of Dis, which basically means the beast from hell.

Edit: It sounds like something along the lines of a "fallen" Reaper. I guess Reapers are angels. 

...doing the Catalyst's work...oh, please no...

Yeah really. One of my biggest problems (as go for many I would guess) with the ending is the Catalyst. The way he is explained we might as well remove any blame from the Reapers...you know who we have fought for 2 and 0.99/1 games...and placing it all on him since he is in control.

Sovereign and Harbinger never made any hints towards this, they seemed perfectly in control of thier actions. And frankly that is how I want to face the Reapers. let me blow a bullet (from a very big gun) down Reapers spine one by one and know that ever time I pull the trigger I am avenging countless and countless deaths caused by their twisted minds as well as preventing countless more from happening.

Dont heap it all on a last second "main villian" with little to know build up and remove the demonity from the Reapers, just dont.

This. The last half hour establishes the Reapers as this group of galactic saviors who are just misunderstood by everyone (including indoctrination), and Shepard is revealed the truth.

While completely ok from a science ficiton point of view, it's very unfortunate that it's places in the last 20 min.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Yeah, I noticed that. That's one of the many things wrong with the Normandy Rescue scene. 

Harbinger takes a break while Shepard takes his time to say farewell to Liara.

Modifié par paxxton, 30 juin 2012 - 07:53 .

[Galbrant]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

I've gotten to thinking.... If the catalyst controls the reapers, what would happen if the Citadel is destroyed? I've gotten to think that if Shepard chooses Destroyed ending. He's not causing some giant EMP Wave.. but sabotaging, the citadel killing the catalyst, the brain I mean why else would you shoot a pipe? Bah maybe I am over thinking it.

Ineresting idea.

I would feel more strongly about it if we didn't have refuse as an option.

[HellishFiend]

byne wrote...

I wonder how that kid feels about being one of the most hated video game characters in years? Has he seen all the videos of people shooting his character? Must suck for him.

He got paid to be the biggest video game troll of the year.  I bet he's living it up. 

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...

I wonder how that kid feels about being one of the most hated video game characters in years? Has he seen all the videos of people shooting his character? Must suck for him.

Luckily he legally shouldn't know about it until he's old enough.  So for all we know he could think he was really well-liked.

Or he's a jerk.  He's got that kind of spoilt brat voice.  He feeds from our rage.

[HellishFiend]

insomniak9 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

So with the controversy regarding Harby not reacting to the Normandy...  Umm... watch this

There are 3 Reaper laser noises, the third one flips the Mako, but no beam for any of them 

Well that's quite the oversight.  Or another hint that its not real.

In this video (pre-EC), every single beam has a perfect Reaper beam noise, except the one that hits you 

Run to Harby!

Not to mention that in the EC, the beam that hits you is way off sync with the beam sound.  

Modifié par HellishFiend, 30 juin 2012 - 07:54 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

Hey guys. Did I miss anything?

Any cool IT stuff that was found in the EC perhaps? xD