Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!
#35851
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:19
#35852
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:20
#35853
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:20
D.Sharrah wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
snip...punishment as the devil...snip
snip...
snip..
snip...
snip...
The bolded section = Javik's comments about Leviathan if you ask me...you know how deep his prejudice against synthetics go (didn't like he so much after he suggested that I throw Legion out of the air lock)...
That is very likely. Javik was always a biggot.. xp
Though I can't see him being that spiteful towards a potential ally against the Reapers...who knows. This DLC is leak is just BW screwing with us so we don't eat them alive for the EC
#35854
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:21
#35855
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:23
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12777408/42#12888284DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Hey guys. Did I miss anything?
Any cool IT stuff that was found in the EC perhaps? xD
Arian Dynas wrote...
Deep, actually, the idea being that
The Harbinger and The Vanguard are still fuilfilling their righteous
duty of slaughtering the lesser beings, whereas the Leviathan chose
instead to defect, becoming a traitor to their ways... interesting.
This is where I think this might go from here, based on what we've seen:
-Mission on Aequitas/Other mining colony, reapers retreat when "artifact" is destroyed.
-A reaper (probably Leviathan) goes rogue, was able to break its AI shackles when said "artifact" was destroyed and rebels against the catalyst/harbinger/whatever AI controls the reapers and the remaining reaper forces.
-??????
-New possibilities presented by ending, due to the possibility of breaking the reaper consensus and allowing the collective consciousness of the species entombed within each reaper sarcophagus to regain control. Not sure quite how this would fit into the current sequence, but it might allow some further rebellion...
It's a hell of a reach, but still, thoughts?
#35856
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:24
It reminds me specifically of ME1 when you can ask Liara that stupid question about asari mating with other asari. "Shepard, think about it." Probably just me but I'll upload it and you can see for yourself.paxxton wrote...
LOL. I want to hear that!BansheeOwnage wrote...
Guys! I altered the pitch on the Rannoch destroyer. I can't make much out, there is too much reaper effect, It kind of made me think it sounded like a woman. I kept listening to it and the way it says Shepard at the beginning sounds like...
Liara
#35857
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:25
FellishBeast wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
snip...punishment as the devil...snip
snip...
snip..
snip...
snip...
The bolded section = Javik's comments about Leviathan if you ask me...you know how deep his prejudice against synthetics go (didn't like he so much after he suggested that I throw Legion out of the air lock)...
That is very likely. Javik was always a biggot.. xp
Though I can't see him being that spiteful towards a potential ally against the Reapers...who knows. This DLC is leak is just BW screwing with us so we don't eat them alive for the EC
Actually the info "leaked" is the crew's reaction to the mission or the aftermath...at least that what it seemed to me...it was kind of weird reading through the lines, the character's almost immediately popped into my head...if I had the link saved I would try to pull the dialogue out and match it to the characters...
#35858
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:25
I fudging SWEAR there are three syllables *initiates broken record mode*
#35859
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:27
BlazingZephyr wrote...
Damn, I come back, an see more of this "serve us/save us" business...
I fudging SWEAR there are three syllables *initiates broken record mode*
Sorry, it's two syllables. You can tell both by listening and looking at the cadence in the waveform. The first syllable has two peaks, but it's still just one syllable. Plenty of single syllables have more than one peak. That doesnt make it more than one syllable.
#35860
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:27
Same thing happened to me. It flowed so naturally between the characters. Solidifies my doubt that BW could write so badly. Here's a present:D.Sharrah wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
snip...punishment as the devil...snip
snip...
snip..
snip...
snip...
The bolded section = Javik's comments about Leviathan if you ask me...you know how deep his prejudice against synthetics go (didn't like he so much after he suggested that I throw Legion out of the air lock)...
That is very likely. Javik was always a biggot.. xp
Though I can't see him being that spiteful towards a potential ally against the Reapers...who knows. This DLC is leak is just BW screwing with us so we don't eat them alive for the EC
Actually the info "leaked" is the crew's reaction to the mission or the aftermath...at least that what it seemed to me...it was kind of weird reading through the lines, the character's almost immediately popped into my head...if I had the link saved I would try to pull the dialogue out and match it to the characters...
http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX
#35861
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:27
TSA_383 wrote...
It's a hell of a reach, but still, thoughts?
I think I could be convinced to pay real money for this DLC.
#35862
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:28
why the sudden change save us obi-shepard, you're our only hope. jk BBRRRRRRTTTTT
#35863
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:28
TSA_383 wrote...
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12777408/42#12888284DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Hey guys. Did I miss anything?
Any cool IT stuff that was found in the EC perhaps? xDArian Dynas wrote...
Deep, actually, the idea being that
The Harbinger and The Vanguard are still fuilfilling their righteous
duty of slaughtering the lesser beings, whereas the Leviathan chose
instead to defect, becoming a traitor to their ways... interesting.
This is where I think this might go from here, based on what we've seen:
-Mission on Aequitas/Other mining colony, reapers retreat when "artifact" is destroyed.
-A reaper (probably Leviathan) goes rogue, was able to break its AI shackles when said "artifact" was destroyed and rebels against the catalyst/harbinger/whatever AI controls the reapers and the remaining reaper forces.
-??????
-New possibilities presented by ending, due to the possibility of breaking the reaper consensus and allowing the collective consciousness of the species entombed within each reaper sarcophagus to regain control. Not sure quite how this would fit into the current sequence, but it might allow some further rebellion...
It's a hell of a reach, but still, thoughts?
This would be interesting...but I was getting the impression that the scientist that it refers to was working on an AI shackle for a Reaper...that shackle is what actually let's you gain Leviathan as an ally...but I could be wrong.
#35864
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:28
1)There are no reaper forces inside the Citadel?
2) They never mention that Shepard is the one that makes it to the beam. He or She, or someone has mad it to the beam.
3)Harbinger leaves,and no one cancels the retreat order.
4)No one from the ground talks to Anderson or Shepard about sending additional support.
5)How does Hackett know Anderson is dead?
6)I think Shepard gets hit by the beam, and Mass Effect 4's protag is the one that makes it to the Citadel, and fires the Crucible.
The ending does not make sense, because what they are saying is:
1)Inside the Citadel, there are power rods that can be used to control the Reapers, and a powergrid used to control the Reaperst. The Crucible is only linked to the Citadel. The rest of the equipment was already there. Why would the equipment be there?
2)The Catalyst said they were unaware that the crucible was still being built, but the Protheans stated the reason why they couldn't finish building it was because they were betrayed by people who were indoctrinated, How if indoctrinated forces knew of the Crucible being built, then
why didn't the Reapers know?
3)I could be wrong, but in the last dream in the extended cut scene it clearly has Thane and Legion talking about issues dealing with their souls. They are not talking about technology, or understanding.
#35865
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:30
But now, after what occurred on that asteroid, I wonder.
That is why the {i've found something!} noise happens a little way off from Aequitas, not over the planet itself.
#35866
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:31
Wow, really? Now that is interesting. Not that surprising, though, considering it's Harbinger. Did anybody record the cleaned up version by chance?insomniak9 wrote...
DrTsoni wrote...
That's what I first thought, though after someone pointed it out several days ago all I hear now is "Serve Us." Anybody know how to clean this up or something so we can get some sort of confirmation?
We cleaned it up a few pages back.
The most interesting thing is that played backwards, he says Shepard.
#35867
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:32
ZerebusPrime wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
It's a hell of a reach, but still, thoughts?
I think I could be convinced to pay real money for this DLC.
Definitely ???->Profit! for Bioware.
#35868
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:33
insomniak9 wrote...
Boom, I was looking for this earlier.But now, after what occurred on that asteroid, I wonder.
That is why the {i've found something!} noise happens a little way off from Aequitas, not over the planet itself.
No, it was because the Normandy tripped over debris.
#35869
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:34
#35870
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:36
I guess this cycle is really doomed then.
And yes, EDI dies in destroy.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 30 juin 2012 - 08:36 .
#35871
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:37
What do you mean?MegumiAzusa wrote...
Meh the NewGamePlus save tells me that all teammates die if you choose Opt Out.
I guess this cycle is really doomed then.
And yes, EDI dies in destroy.
#35872
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:38
chidingewe8036 wrote...
what is the point of this thread anymore people???? I mean I am a firm believer in the Indoctrination Theory it is my fan fiction ending but what is the point in this thread really anymore???? Bioware is to blind and proud to accept it.
The fact that IT is not dead?
#35873
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:38
DrTsoni wrote...
Wow, really? Now that is interesting. Not that surprising, though, considering it's Harbinger. Did anybody record the cleaned up version by chance?insomniak9 wrote...
DrTsoni wrote...
That's what I first thought, though after someone pointed it out several days ago all I hear now is "Serve Us." Anybody know how to clean this up or something so we can get some sort of confirmation?
We cleaned it up a few pages back.
The most interesting thing is that played backwards, he says Shepard.
Wait, where is this cleanup? I went back at least ten pages and saw nothing of the sort....
#35874
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:39
But remember that the game might set those flags based on your progress. With new DLC the flags might diverge in possible values.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Meh the NewGamePlus save tells me that all teammates die if you choose Opt Out.
I guess this cycle is really doomed then.
And yes, EDI dies in destroy.
#35875
Posté 30 juin 2012 - 08:39
If you either shoot the Child thingy or not pick anything everyone dies.BansheeOwnage wrote...
What do you mean?MegumiAzusa wrote...
Meh the NewGamePlus save tells me that all teammates die if you choose Opt Out.
I guess this cycle is really doomed then.
And yes, EDI dies in destroy.




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