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[Andromidius]

"Not an ABCD ending - that's the final choice you make. There are >100 variations of the ending depending on your choices."

That's what she recently said. Though technically she said 'less then one hundred'. So really you can take it whichever way you like, its not a very concise statement.

[Uncle Jo]

DJBare wrote...

For that, I'll refer you to Saren's and TIM's ramblings, yet both can be redeemed with high enough speech check, both spoke with arrogance, Sovereign spoke with arrogance, now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the reapers can be talked down like Saren and TIM, that would be a very disappointing end to the series, but I am kinda hoping there is a paragon way to finish the reapers, I dunno, maybe you have to undergo an epic battle to get inside Harbinger and destroy him from within, this releases his control on all the other reapers, or a renegade action that obliterates all reapers, just my thoughts.

You have a point with Saren's and TIM's speeches. However, they were still organics, they "belonged" to us, and ended indoctrinated, because they were foolish enough to think they could control or collaborate with a a race which surpassses everything we knew. They rightly got burnt.

But now, Sovereign or Harbinger or any Reaper just being fooled jumping jacks... On the other hand, we never knew exactly how the Reapers "community" was organised nor to which point the countless organics minds "ascended" in a Reaper were independant.
Legion said once about the Reapers... "Billions of minds. One will". I still wonder to whose will he was referring to... If he spoke about one particular Reaper or all of them...

Anyways in this case, your interpretation of a possible free or destroy the Reapers through Harbinger could work well... Although we already have one like that

You know what I liked by the Reapers (well before the Starbinger's story on the Citadel) ? That I didn't  know their exact nature, nor their intentions. They simply "were". Nothing more, nothing less.

They stood at the apex of the food chain and came every 50,000 years to reproduce (harvest) and mowing the lawn in order to destroy any race whose evolution/progress could eventually represent a threat for them, using all necessary means to achieve this. With no hate, no anger. Nothing personal, if I could put it like that. And we had to deal with them, because well, bad luck, we were born at the end of the cycle.

"It's so much easier to see the world in black and white. But grey? I don't know what to do with grey..."

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 01 juillet 2012 - 01:57 .

[jgibson14352]

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

 if somebody who's interested could do me a favor, im checking jessica merizans tweets for evidence that i remember her posting about how the EC was final, but from what im seeing, shes now saying the opposite. 
there have been huge storms over the DC area lately, and because of the power loss im in a lobby using public internet like some kind of freaking animal, and her conversations ARENT LOADING and i cant see what shes talking about!!! please help!

She said something about there being around 100 variations of the endings.

Not entirely sure what those variations can mean, unless she's going down the 'certain people are dead and thus don't show up in the group shot' route.

i saw that one (total bull, theres maybe around 20, being super generous), but the ones i wanted to see but couldnt were further down and ending related. i can usually see half, like a big one is "@[/s]batara_the_cy[/b] Because the people you love wouldn't let you go without proof She's going to get Shepard!"

[D.Sharrah]

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

 if somebody who's interested could do me a favor, im checking jessica merizans tweets for evidence that i remember her posting about how the EC was final, but from what im seeing, shes now saying the opposite. 
there have been huge storms over the DC area lately, and because of the power loss im in a lobby using public internet like some kind of freaking animal, and her conversations ARENT LOADING and i cant see what shes talking about!!! please help!

She said something about there being around 100 variations of the endings.

Not entirely sure what those variations can mean, unless she's going down the 'certain people are dead and thus don't show up in the group shot' route.

She also recently suggested that her statements pre release of EC about being able to reuinte with the crew/LI was her way of telling us that you could head canon after the EC...

[v0rt3x22]

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

 if somebody who's interested could do me a favor, im checking jessica merizans tweets for evidence that i remember her posting about how the EC was final, but from what im seeing, shes now saying the opposite. 
there have been huge storms over the DC area lately, and because of the power loss im in a lobby using public internet like some kind of freaking animal, and her conversations ARENT LOADING and i cant see what shes talking about!!! please help!

She said something about there being around 100 variations of the endings.

Not entirely sure what those variations can mean, unless she's going down the 'certain people are dead and thus don't show up in the group shot' route.

Yea I'm just going through her tweets from that day and the days after.

She said that BioWare made it clear that ME3 is the last story of Shepard (something I disagree with - why throw in the line "One more story about the shepard"?)

And she tweeted there will be more DLC and that there are over 100 variations of the endings that take everything into account.

(Did we miss something?)

[Andromidius]

jgibson14352 wrote...
i saw that one (total bull, theres maybe around 20, being super generous), but the ones i wanted to see but couldnt were further down and ending related. i can usually see half, like a big one is "@[/s]batara_the_cy[/b] Because the people you love wouldn't let you go without proof She's going to get Shepard!"

"Because the people you love wouldn't let you go without proof She's going to get Shepard!"

This?

[paxxton]

I just can't understand why Harbinger doesn't say a single letter in ME3?! And I mean normal speaking not some ambigous mumbo jumbo!! This is an outrage!

Modifié par paxxton, 01 juillet 2012 - 02:02 .

[D.Sharrah]

Vaya wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

*chopped pyramid*

Well, given the amount of dialogue currently in the game, this is probably all of the on-board the Normandy speech between crew mates. I don't see anything on-site, (i.e., the "water" asteroid), though.

Yah, it's almost certainly the post mission dialogue, text for the subtitles. I'm guessing it's multiple locations like LotSB, giving us Aequitas, the asteroid and maybe some other location with, say, lots of water.

The Hanar homeworld perhaps...or at least a planet where there is a Hanar population in its natural environs...tying in with the Kasumi cameo mission?  The real question is on this "water world" is there going to be somewhere called Manaan or Hrakert or...?

[jgibson14352]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

 if somebody who's interested could do me a favor, im checking jessica merizans tweets for evidence that i remember her posting about how the EC was final, but from what im seeing, shes now saying the opposite. 
there have been huge storms over the DC area lately, and because of the power loss im in a lobby using public internet like some kind of freaking animal, and her conversations ARENT LOADING and i cant see what shes talking about!!! please help!

She said something about there being around 100 variations of the endings.

Not entirely sure what those variations can mean, unless she's going down the 'certain people are dead and thus don't show up in the group shot' route.

She also recently suggested that her statements pre release of EC about being able to reuinte with the crew/LI was her way of telling us that you could head canon after the EC...

thats actually the one i was looking for. the ones im interested in are the ones like the half i posted up above, if im totally wrong, just lemme know, i just cant tell, they wont freaking load
 ps. i can see most of her tweets, its what shes answering that i cant see, so i have no idea if its about the endings or not

Modifié par jgibson14352, 01 juillet 2012 - 02:01 .

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

"Not an ABCD ending - that's the final choice you make. There are >100 variations of the ending depending on your choices."

That's what she recently said. Though technically she said 'less then one hundred'. So really you can take it whichever way you like, its not a very concise statement.

>100 means more than 100.

[Auralius Carolus]

D.Sharrah wrote...


Which is why I say it is just the tip of the iceberg...most notably missing is the dialogue that gets referred to qutie a bit - you apparently have a conversation with Leviathan.

Meh, I honestly don't care about this peice-meal DLC crap. I'm not giving them a dime further unless the fat lady sings on those endings. Not a dime; not one.

And a year from now, I probably won't care. Unlike ME1 and 2, this thing seems more and more to have launched half baked.

[Ravereth]

 BTW, What were our thoughts on this picture? Is that London or Vancouver? 

[ThisOneIsPunny]

D.Sharrah wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...


Tully Ackland has posted that exact same statement twice, you could see it as he knows he means it. but its still weird how NO bioware-er has outright said, "we did not write and design the endings as though shepard was indoctrinated, and will not release any dlc expanding on such". i know that while id be disappointed, id be happy for finally having a direct answer instead of all htis beating around the bull****. jos hendrikson and any other dev wont confirm or deny though, just ambiguous "cant answer that" statements

It's suspicious is what it is. I don't blame them, I mean keeping people interested in the end of a trilogy is a lot different from building interest in a sequel. Or uh.. so I'd imagine. So I don't know. Maybe Tully Ackland's right with no underlying motives and maybe they're not confirming or denying IT to keep people interested and invested in Mass Effect.

Not what I think or believe, though.

http://ts4.mm.bing.n...&h=148&c=7&rs=1

Oh u :happy:

 But yes, something is foul in the state of denmark

[Ravereth]

paxxton wrote...

I just can't understand why Harbinger doesn't say a single letter in ME3?! And I mean normal speaking not some ambigous mumbo jumbo!! This is an outrage!

Maybe he is INDOCTRINATED?!  Oh, wait...

[Vaya]

jgibson14352 wrote...

 if somebody who's interested could do me a favor, im checking jessica merizans tweets for evidence that i remember her posting about how the EC was final, but from what im seeing, shes now saying the opposite. 
there have been huge storms over the DC area lately, and because of the power loss im in a lobby using public internet like some kind of freaking animal, and her conversations ARENT LOADING and i cant see what shes talking about!!! please help!

I can't help you, but that does explain how Rifneno gets on line, he's a godahm badger after all.

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

"Not an ABCD ending - that's the final choice you make. There are >100 variations of the ending depending on your choices."

That's what she recently said. Though technically she said 'less then one hundred'. So really you can take it whichever way you like, its not a very concise statement.

>100 means more than 100.

Oh yeah.  Posting at 3am probably isn't the best idea.

Regardless, I'd like to see even 50 endings.  And I'm not going to be pleased if they are all just slight variations based on who's alive...

[Ravereth]

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

"Not an ABCD ending - that's the final choice you make. There are >100 variations of the ending depending on your choices."

That's what she recently said. Though technically she said 'less then one hundred'. So really you can take it whichever way you like, its not a very concise statement.

>100 means more than 100.

Shhh, math is hard 

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

"Not an ABCD ending - that's the final choice you make. There are >100 variations of the ending depending on your choices."

That's what she recently said. Though technically she said 'less then one hundred'. So really you can take it whichever way you like, its not a very concise statement.

>100 means more than 100.

Oh yeah.  Posting at 3am probably isn't the best idea.

Regardless, I'd like to see even 50 endings.  And I'm not going to be pleased if they are all just slight variations based on who's alive...

Well, compared to ME2 the EC did a pretty good job in bringing expanded endings.

[D.Sharrah]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Which is why I say it is just the tip of the iceberg...most notably missing is the dialogue that gets referred to qutie a bit - you apparently have a conversation with Leviathan.

Meh, I honestly don't care about this peice-meal DLC crap. I'm not giving them a dime further unless the fat lady sings on those endings. Not a dime; not one.

And a year from now, I probably won't care. Unlike ME1 and 2, this thing seems more and more to have launched half baked.

I wish that I could say that was the case for me...but I am a ME addict...just can't seem to get enough.  Just look at today alone - I have spent all my free time doing something ME related.  Soloed some Bronze MP this morning, posted here on the forums, played with the datapad app, back to the formus, back to the datapad, back to the forums...do you see a pattern?  Thinking about starting a NG+ of ME 3 tonight...I just can't help myself...I need help.

[paxxton]

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I just can't understand why Harbinger doesn't say a single letter in ME3?! And I mean normal speaking not some ambigous mumbo jumbo!! This is an outrage!

Maybe he is INDOCTRINATED?!  Oh, wait...

Nah, self-indoctrination would cause an infinite loop and an emergency system shutdown.

[comrade gando]

D.Sharrah wrote...

She also recently suggested that her statements pre release of EC about being able to reuinte with the crew/LI was her way of telling us that you could head canon after the EC...

this right here, infuriates me. so they're telling us to just imagine what happens next? no closure? no then they lived together? they ended the series on a cliffhanger still! what happened next?!~!? if I have to imagine the ending, then I might as well imagine the beginning and middle as well! what a bunch of gypsies!!!!

[D.Sharrah]

comrade gando wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

She also recently suggested that her statements pre release of EC about being able to reuinte with the crew/LI was her way of telling us that you could head canon after the EC...

this right here, infuriates me. so they're telling us to just imagine what happens next? no closure? no then they lived together? they ended the series on a cliffhanger still! what happened next?!~!? if I have to imagine the ending, then I might as well imagine the beginning and middle as well! what a bunch of gypsies!!!!

Easy...breathe...remember it is Merizan.  She hasn't exactly been the gold mine of all that is factual.

[Auralius Carolus]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Which is why I say it is just the tip of the iceberg...most notably missing is the dialogue that gets referred to qutie a bit - you apparently have a conversation with Leviathan.

Meh, I honestly don't care about this peice-meal DLC crap. I'm not giving them a dime further unless the fat lady sings on those endings. Not a dime; not one.

And a year from now, I probably won't care. Unlike ME1 and 2, this thing seems more and more to have launched half baked.

I wish that I could say that was the case for me...but I am a ME addict...just can't seem to get enough.  Just look at today alone - I have spent all my free time doing something ME related.  Soloed some Bronze MP this morning, posted here on the forums, played with the datapad app, back to the formus, back to the datapad, back to the forums...do you see a pattern?  Thinking about starting a NG+ of ME 3 tonight...I just can't help myself...I need help.

I played ME1 ~5 times, ME2 several times, and ME3 2 times. Right now, I've probably spent more time on the forums than in SP and MP combined- which is bad.

The biggest reason I'm touching it anymore is because of the fun of chatting and hypothesizing on this thread. I would consider rerunning the series, but not for that ending; not for the weak closure. And the MP, at least for me, is buggy as heck. Buggy unlike anything I've played in a long time.

[paxxton]

comrade gando wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

She also recently suggested that her statements pre release of EC about being able to reuinte with the crew/LI was her way of telling us that you could head canon after the EC...

this right here, infuriates me. so they're telling us to just imagine what happens next? no closure? no then they lived together? they ended the series on a cliffhanger still! what happened next?!~!? if I have to imagine the ending, then I might as well imagine the beginning and middle as well! what a bunch of gypsies!!!!

Shepard can't reunite with his LI if he's dead. In Destroy they all left him to rot in the rubble. No wonder he doesn't want any reunion.

[Andromidius]

Tee hee. Replaying ME1*, and some of the early lines from Saren and the Turian Counciller are rather... Awesome.

Saren: "Are we allowing dreams into evidence now? How can I defend my innocent against this kind of testimony?"
Counciller: "I agree. Our judgement must be based on facts and evidence, not wild imaginings and reckless speculation."

And guess who was indoctrinated, and who was wrong?

*Yes, I wrote ME3 first time.  I'm tired.

Modifié par Andromidius, 01 juillet 2012 - 02:22 .