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XanderLav wrote...

I also like how the Crucible is "upgraded" during each cycle. I find it very weird how can you upgrade something that you neither understand nor know it's purpose and how it works. So what do you do to upgrade it? Put a cherry on top, add rooms for smokers??

That. Or if you're working on a component that you actually can understand you can then improve that without knowing how it improves the device as a whole. Ever played Spacechem? Well first I'll recommend that you go and do that, then I'll say that it is possible to take someone elses hypercomplicated puzzle solution and manage to make it better without even following exactly how the whole thing works. You can just find that if you shuffle a few symbols around you can make the whole thing go faster with fewer commands. The improvement is more often a result of random experimentation than actual applied thought process but still possible.

Of course there'll be a limit to how good you can make that hypercomplicated solution before you basically have to reinvent the whole solution and come up with a better solution paradigm to get more performance.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 01 juillet 2012 - 06:10 .


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Taco Del Marr wrote...

No one in the galaxy would be ok with letting the gencodial death machines sruvive. Garrus even has great line regarding this at one point if you talk to him in the main battery he says something to the effect of about how after this war there are gonna be alot of angry orphans and the most people grow up thinking the galaxy is generally a nice place and then out of nowhere things that seemingly come out of nowhere just want destroy everything you know and love.


Indeed. That green space magic would have to entirely remove the organics' negative emotions for that scenario to work out. Sounds like something that would happen in a dream.....

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byne wrote...

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He's talking about the Toba Catastrophe. A supervolcano eruption about 70,000. The only supervolcano to have erupted in mankind's time on Earth. For those not familiar with the term, a supervolcano is to a volcano what an atomic bomb is to a grenade. Mt. St. Helen's was a tiny fizzle compared to Toba, which was such an immense blast that it actually caused a minor nuclear winter (technically volcanic winter) and ice age. Experts estimate humans may have been down to only about a thousand breeding pairs after the Toba Catastrophe was done killing.

BTW, there's a supervolcano under Yellowstone Park. It's overdue to erupt. It's bigger than Toba. Sleep tight.


Arent there three supervolcanoes in the US?

:mellow:
Oh good, I was just getting over my two am existential crisis.
Now I can spend the rest of my early morning worrying over gigantic natural catastrophes waiting to happen.
And the riduculous possibility that the reapers are real. :?

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

:mellow:
Oh good, I was just getting over my two am existential crisis.
Now I can spend the rest of my early morning worrying over gigantic natural catastrophes waiting to happen.
And the riduculous possibility that the reapers are real. :?


Dont worry, we havent discovered our mass relay yet, we're still good for this cycle. ;)

#36380
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HellishFiend wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Are...are you asking Lokanaiya  if some kid could pick her up if he rolled up in a Crucible?

:blush:

... edited. More Animal House reference now.


lol, ok. I have to admit though, the imagery was quite amusing!

Come to think of it, I'd love to get my hands on a Mass Effect themed Lego CE set. Even though I wouldn't have room for it.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Taco Del Marr wrote...

No one in the galaxy would be ok with letting the gencodial death machines sruvive. Garrus even has great line regarding this at one point if you talk to him in the main battery he says something to the effect of about how after this war there are gonna be alot of angry orphans and the most people grow up thinking the galaxy is generally a nice place and then out of nowhere things that seemingly come out of nowhere just want destroy everything you know and love.


Indeed. That green space magic would have to entirely remove the organics' negative emotions for that scenario to work out. Sounds like something that would happen in a dream.....


or indoctrination but the relys are the antennas and send out the signale so ya but ya dream on Shepard.

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HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

:mellow:
Oh good, I was just getting over my two am existential crisis.
Now I can spend the rest of my early morning worrying over gigantic natural catastrophes waiting to happen.
And the riduculous possibility that the reapers are real. :?


Dont worry, we havent discovered our mass relay yet, we're still good for this cycle. ;)


but we are not devleoping on the path they wanted so they will intervine eventually so for now we are safe.

#36383
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HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

:mellow:
Oh good, I was just getting over my two am existential crisis.
Now I can spend the rest of my early morning worrying over gigantic natural catastrophes waiting to happen.
And the riduculous possibility that the reapers are real. :?


Dont worry, we havent discovered our mass relay yet, we're still good for this cycle. ;)


Apes/angels hypothesis. It's far more likely to encounter life far behind us in terms of intelligence and technological capability or vastly in advance of us rather than finding something close to our own level. If we assume that intelligent life can and therefore will propogate itself throughought the cosmos, then that advanced life is more likely to be found than the pond scum. Odds are good that even if they're not actively malicious, they'll be extremely destructive to us. It'll be like humans and ants. People walk around oblivious to the chaos they can bring to lesser organisms.

Be afraid.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Are...are you asking Lokanaiya  if some kid could pick her up if he rolled up in a Crucible?

:blush:

... edited. More Animal House reference now.

lol, ok. I have to admit though, the imagery was quite amusing!

:bandit:
"It doesn't matter how nice a guy you are. All girls really care about is how big your rocket is."

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Simon_Says wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

:mellow:
Oh good, I was just getting over my two am existential crisis.
Now I can spend the rest of my early morning worrying over gigantic natural catastrophes waiting to happen.
And the riduculous possibility that the reapers are real. :?


Dont worry, we havent discovered our mass relay yet, we're still good for this cycle. ;)


Apes/angels hypothesis. It's far more likely to encounter life far behind us in terms of intelligence and technological capability or vastly in advance of us rather than finding something close to our own level. If we assume that intelligent life can and therefore will propogate itself throughought the cosmos, then that advanced life is more likely to be found than the pond scum. Odds are good that even if they're not actively malicious, they'll be extremely destructive to us. It'll be like humans and ants. People walk around oblivious to the chaos they can bring to lesser organisms.

Be afraid.


You really do enjoy those existential crises, dont you? :P

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Simon_Says wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Are...are you asking Lokanaiya  if some kid could pick her up if he rolled up in a Crucible?

:blush:

... edited. More Animal House reference now.

lol, ok. I have to admit though, the imagery was quite amusing!

:bandit:
"It doesn't matter how nice a guy you are. All girls really care about is how big your rocket is."


not going there please.

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masster blaster wrote...

not going there please.

No love for the Spoony Experiment? Really?

HellishFiend wrote...
You really do enjoy those existential crises, dont you? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Only when Monday feels close.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 01 juillet 2012 - 06:27 .


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Simon_Says wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

not going there please.

No love for the Spoony Experiment? Really?

HellishFiend wrote...
You really do enjoy those existential crises, dont you? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Only when Mondays feel close.


yep I have enof of that at high school so ya.

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masster blaster wrote...

yep I have enof of that at high school so ya.


Get used to it, it won't end even when you're into your 20's or 30's.

If anything it'll get worse.

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Andromidius wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

yep I have enof of that at high school so ya.


Get used to it, it won't end even when you're into your 20's or 30's.

If anything it'll get worse.


ya okay but have you read what I posted on this page.

edit the beginnig page i mean of this page.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 juillet 2012 - 06:35 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

yep I have enof of that at high school so ya.


Get used to it, it won't end even when you're into your 20's or 30's.

If anything it'll get worse.


ya okay but have you read what I posted on this page.

edit the beginnig page i mean of this page.


Yes, but I have nothing to add.  If I don't reply to someone, its because I have nothing to say.

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Simon_Says wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

not going there please.

No love for the Spoony Experiment? Really?

HellishFiend wrote...
You really do enjoy those existential crises, dont you? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Only when Monday feels close.


Ah poor Spoony...

You heard about him leaving Channel Awesome?

Hey folks, what's new?

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Illusive Man: Shepard, I only wanted to protect humanity. The Crucible can control them (humanity), I know it can.

Illusive Man: Control of the Reapers, and of you (humanity) if necessary.

His exact words.

Modifié par magnetite, 01 juillet 2012 - 07:10 .


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Apologies if this has been raised already, but I can hear something a bit bizarre before Shep arrives on the Citadel. When the keeper is examining the helmet, there is a sound almost like a groan, even though everyone up there is supposedly dead, then it cuts away and we can hear what sounds like gunfire from outside the Citadel followed by another anomalous noise like a faint reaper growl. While it is audible on my awful laptop speakers, I only noticed it when I had headphones on.

The scene starts at 3:48.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

not going there please.

No love for the Spoony Experiment? Really?

HellishFiend wrote...
You really do enjoy those existential crises, dont you? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Only when Monday feels close.


Ah poor Spoony...

You heard about him leaving Channel Awesome?

Hey folks, what's new?

Thinking about the horrors of the control/synthesis endings as shown in the EC.
Especially synthesis--Just the way their eyes glow...*shudders*

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byne wrote...

Talking about the human Reaper reminds me of this comic


Thanks for the reference, wild speculation incoming:

Remember how
* the Reapers tried to build a Prothean reaper and failed
* the Collectors were running baseline genetic comparisons between their species and humanity
* the human genetic code is very malleable
* Protheans have four eyes?

I leave you to speculate for yourselves. Always thought the third eye and the mandibles were because of the transition from human to something else though (and still think so) - yet the Prothean design and the appearance of the human reaper is interesting.

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Sareth Cousland wrote...

byne wrote...

Talking about the human Reaper reminds me of this comic


Thanks for the reference, wild speculation incoming:

Remember how
* the Reapers tried to build a Prothean reaper and failed
* the Collectors were running baseline genetic comparisons between their species and humanity
* the human genetic code is very malleable
* Protheans have four eyes?

I leave you to speculate for yourselves. Always thought the third eye and the mandibles were because of the transition from human to something else though (and still think so) - yet the Prothean design and the appearance of the human reaper is interesting.


Yeah, it struck me as being a tribrid between Protheans, Humans and Reapers.  Would also explain why they were experimenting on Collectors as well.

Modifié par Andromidius, 01 juillet 2012 - 07:35 .


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invetro wrote...

Apologies if this has been raised already, but I can hear something a bit bizarre before Shep arrives on the Citadel. When the keeper is examining the helmet, there is a sound almost like a groan, even though everyone up there is supposedly dead, then it cuts away and we can hear what sounds like gunfire from outside the Citadel followed by another anomalous noise like a faint reaper growl. While it is audible on my awful laptop speakers, I only noticed it when I had headphones on.

The scene starts at 3:48.


All i can hear is the Keeper sounds and the beam doing it's beam thing. That and a feint hum before Shepard's mecha-gasp,

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Andromidius wrote...

Sareth Cousland wrote...

byne wrote...

Talking about the human Reaper reminds me of this comic


Thanks for the reference, wild speculation incoming:

Remember how
* the Reapers tried to build a Prothean reaper and failed
* the Collectors were running baseline genetic comparisons between their species and humanity
* the human genetic code is very malleable
* Protheans have four eyes?

I leave you to speculate for yourselves. Always thought the third eye and the mandibles were because of the transition from human to something else though (and still think so) - yet the Prothean design and the appearance of the human reaper is interesting.


Yeah, it struck me as being a tribyrid between Protheans, Humans and Reapers.  Would also explain why they were experimenting on Collectors as well.


So... you're telling me that humanity is the imitation crab meat of the universe.

I like it.

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Mm, crab meat.