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[Andromidius]

invetro wrote...

I'll try and do some audio analysis later when I'm at my main PC, try and bump the volume on that part. The groan is a lot quieter than the keeper sound, playing at the same time. To me, it sounds like Anderson, but you can't really pinpoint someones voice from how they groan. Just a hunch. But yeah, high volume and headphones and I can't see anyone missing this.

I heard it all.  A grunt (not from Shepard), sounds of gunfire and even Husk screams...

Can someone with some sound software work on what I said earlier, about speeding up the Dream track 3.6/4 times and see if its the same as Leaving Earth?

[Simon_Says]

Andromidius wrote...

But yeah, Shep's been undergoing it for a looooooooooong time.  Which is why I think TIM's scene is just bunk when it comes to suddenly seizing control of Shep's body like that - we NEVER see indoctrination working that way before!

Alas, we have...

• "Assuming direct control."
• "I am Sovereign and this station is mine."
• Paul Grayson. Just, Paul Grayson.

[Andromidius]

Wasn't that complete control though, not just 'body control'? Plus that was from a Reaper, not someone with magic biotics.

Not to mention Collectors and Saren were heavily implanted. Not sure about Grayson.

Shepard didn't have Reaper tech throughout his/her body (I'm pretty sure it would have set off warning signals throughout the game)?

[CoolioThane]

Simon, I think he's referring to someone other than Reapers controlling someone? I know I've never seen that before! xD

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Andromidius wrote...

Yep.  Agreed.

My was point was actually about the music.  But since it was pointed out how that wasn't the actual song name...  I retracted my statement.  Too easy to get excited >_>

But yeah, even at face value Shepard is being indoctrinated right there.  The fact TIM is now dead shouldn't make people think "oh, Shepard isn't being controlled anymore!"  Indoctrination never goes away!

But yeah, Shep's been undergoing it for a looooooooooong time.  Which is why I think TIM's scene is just bunk when it comes to suddenly seizing control of Shep's body like that - we NEVER see indoctrination working that way before!

My Interpretation of the TIM scene has always been that it is an attempt to outright break Shepards mind. I dont think every single person who is subjected to indocrtrination gets a choice because then pure luck would make some people resist at times. No I think most peoples minds simply cannot handle it and get broken into directly by the Indoctrination putting them under Reaper control.

But in the case of storng willed persons they can reject the Indoctrination at this stage and instead the Reapers go over to try and tricking the victim into letting them in by making choose the Reapers by their own free will so to speak.

The TIM scene is Shepards direct battle against indoctrination and losing it/getting killed emans Shepard is Indoctrinated, no choice or anything.

But as it fails the Reapers move on to the choice, possibly the same stage Saren and TIM reached where they choose to agree with the Reapers in a twisted way.

But just my idea.

[Dwailing]

Andromidius wrote...

Wasn't that complete control though, not just 'body control'? Plus that was from a Reaper, not someone with magic biotics.

Not to mention Collectors and Saren were heavily implanted. Not sure about Grayson.

Shepard didn't have Reaper tech throughout his/her body (I'm pretty sure it would have set off warning signals throughout the game)?

Grayson was pretty much completely implanted by the end of the book (Frakking nanites. ).

[TSA_383]

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

[Dwailing]

TSA_383 wrote...

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

I believe that plays during the epilogue at the Garden of Eden Planet scene (Or it used to anyway.).

[BansheeOwnage]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here's an analogy that BleedingUranium came up with a while ago for ME3's ending.

In case you forget what happened in ME1, after Sovereign blows up, a piece of it hits the citadel tower (slightly creepy music at the end of "Victory"). This would be where ME3 ends (An End Once and For All). What were missing in ME3 is what happens after in ME1.

Shepard then emerges from a pile of wreckage to find her 2 slightly wounded squadmates and Anderson.

I hate bumping my own stuff but does anyone have anything to say about this?

[Andromidius]

TSA_383 wrote...

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

Wait, that wasn't unique to Mass Effect?

Why have a modern day song at the end of Mass Effect 3?

[EpicTacoProject]

EpicTacoProject wrote...

 Don't know if this has already been posted, but damn...
www.youtube.com/watch

I'd hate to see this get lost, it looks like a very significant piece of evidence.
Will try to confirm this myself tomorrow.

[Dwailing]

estebanus wrote...

Well, it's nice to see you guys speculating just as usual

I'll be going again (Luggage processing), so maybe I'll see you all later today, or tomorrow!

What?  You thought a little thing like BW actually ADDING more evidence for IT in the EC would stop us from speculating? 

[Dwailing]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here's an analogy that BleedingUranium came up with a while ago for ME3's ending.

In case you forget what happened in ME1, after Sovereign blows up, a piece of it hits the citadel tower (slightly creepy music at the end of "Victory"). This would be where ME3 ends (An End Once and For All). What were missing in ME3 is what happens after in ME1.

Shepard then emerges from a pile of wreckage to find her 2 slightly wounded squadmates and Anderson.

I hate bumping my own stuff but does anyone have anything to say about this?

That.  Is.  AMAZING!  Please BW, when you release the IT DLC (It'll happen eventually.), USE THIS!!!

[MaximizedAction]

Dwailing wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

I believe that plays during the epilogue at the Garden of Eden Planet scene (Or it used to anyway.).

How could you people forget this? I find the ME3 version, with violin-overs epic!
And, yes, it starts playing once the camera zooms in onto the Normandy.

BTW: Bioware just so decided to make the Normandy escape, instead of her catching fire an blowing up in EVERY ending, but still crash land on a planet, since, who the hell needs those landing pads we saw in ME1 on Virmire.

I found it interesting that the Normandy was now able to escape the space-magic shockwave. As I saw it (no matter my wtf face) I thought, might this represent that the players no somehow achieved more 'hope-points'?

Because that is actually a non-trivial change. This is not clarification, this is a pretty drastic change.
So, I'm still wondering what Bioware is up...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:00 .

[MaximizedAction]

Andromidius wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

Wait, that wasn't unique to Mass Effect?

Why have a modern day song at the end of Mass Effect 3?

You haven't watch BSG, have you?

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

Wait, that wasn't unique to Mass Effect?

Why have a modern day song at the end of Mass Effect 3?

You haven't watch BSG, have you?

All along the watchtower isn't thaaat modern, but it's a great piece.

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here's an analogy that BleedingUranium came up with a while ago for ME3's ending.

In case you forget what happened in ME1, after Sovereign blows up, a piece of it hits the citadel tower (slightly creepy music at the end of "Victory"). This would be where ME3 ends (An End Once and For All). What were missing in ME3 is what happens after in ME1.

Shepard then emerges from a pile of wreckage to find her 2 slightly wounded squadmates and Anderson.

I hate bumping my own stuff but does anyone have anything to say about this?

That.  Is.  AMAZING!  Please BW, when you release the IT DLC (It'll happen eventually.), USE THIS!!!

I forgot to mention Shepard is holding the same spot he shot Anderson in ME3. That's why he imagines herself getting wounded here again. On the Citadel.

[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here's an analogy that BleedingUranium came up with a while ago for ME3's ending.

In case you forget what happened in ME1, after Sovereign blows up, a piece of it hits the citadel tower (slightly creepy music at the end of "Victory"). This would be where ME3 ends (An End Once and For All). What were missing in ME3 is what happens after in ME1.

Shepard then emerges from a pile of wreckage to find her 2 slightly wounded squadmates and Anderson.

I hate bumping my own stuff but does anyone have anything to say about this?

That.  Is.  AMAZING!  Please BW, when you release the IT DLC (It'll happen eventually.), USE THIS!!!

IT DLC? Dunno. Rather Mass Effect 4. IT deserves a proper treatment.

[Dwailing]

 OK, Megumi and I were talking a couple days ago, and we realized something.  When you meet Coats for the first time on the shuttle and Anderson talks to you, Anderson isn't there when you first jump in.  He just appears out of thin air in time to talk to you.  Honestly, if Anderson was ACTUALLY there, I get the feeling that he would have been giving you covering fire as well.

BTW, Megumi will be making a video of this, but once that's done, maybe someone could flycam that scene to make sure we aren't crazy (You know, about this.  I fully acknowledge that I'm probably crazy.  In a good way, but still crazy. ).

Modifié par Dwailing, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:05 .

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

On the subject of the soundtrack:


This only appears over the planet sequence right?
http://www.definition-of.net/malefit

Wait, that wasn't unique to Mass Effect?

Why have a modern day song at the end of Mass Effect 3?

You haven't watch BSG, have you?

All along the watchtower isn't thaaat modern, but it's a great piece.

I'll just assume I haven't read that....man, last week some guy called me archaic that I listened to Pink Floyd and Zeppelin, and now this...

I don't want to live on this Citadel anymore.

[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

 OK, Megumi and I were talking a couple days ago, and we realized something.  When you meet Coats for the first time on the shuttle and Anderson talks to you, Anderson isn't there when you first jump in.  He just appears out of thin air in time to talk to you.  Honestly, if Anderson was ACTUALLY there, I get the feeling that he would have been giving you covering fire as well.

+ no one answered the call for extraction. Then a shuttle appears knowing exactly that you were calling for help.

[Dwailing]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here's an analogy that BleedingUranium came up with a while ago for ME3's ending.

In case you forget what happened in ME1, after Sovereign blows up, a piece of it hits the citadel tower (slightly creepy music at the end of "Victory"). This would be where ME3 ends (An End Once and For All). What were missing in ME3 is what happens after in ME1.

Shepard then emerges from a pile of wreckage to find her 2 slightly wounded squadmates and Anderson.

I hate bumping my own stuff but does anyone have anything to say about this?

That.  Is.  AMAZING!  Please BW, when you release the IT DLC (It'll happen eventually.), USE THIS!!!

I forgot to mention Shepard is holding the same spot he shot Anderson in ME3. That's why he imagines herself getting wounded here again. On the Citadel.

That's ALSO the same spot Anderson tapped him on in the beginning (Wow, that spot has a lot of significance for Shepard, doesn't it? ). 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIML9ku-HJs  (It's around the 1:49 mark, I think.)

Modifié par Dwailing, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:09 .

[Dwailing]

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

 OK, Megumi and I were talking a couple days ago, and we realized something.  When you meet Coats for the first time on the shuttle and Anderson talks to you, Anderson isn't there when you first jump in.  He just appears out of thin air in time to talk to you.  Honestly, if Anderson was ACTUALLY there, I get the feeling that he would have been giving you covering fire as well.

+ no one answered the call for extraction. Then a shuttle appears knowing exactly that you were calling for help.

OK, that scene is OFFICIALLY very screwy.

[Andromidius]

MaximizedAction wrote...
You haven't watch BSG, have you?

At least BSG was technically set in the past, so All Along The Watchtower could have been passed down the generations

But yeah, you have a point.  Just thought it was all unique tracks to Mass Effect.  And the final track not being unique seems...off.