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[MaximizedAction]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Lion Martinez wrote...

Wow, some great theorizing going on in this thread. I'm really enjoying it, it intrigues me. Keep it up

Aha.....and we're very "intrigued" as to what BioWare is doing with our game....I sure hope they aren't ruining it any more and have embraced the IT. Also make sure that Mr Hudson and Mr Walters are kept from damaging the franchise any further.

"our"???

[Darth_Trethon]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Lion Martinez wrote...

Wow, some great theorizing going on in this thread. I'm really enjoying it, it intrigues me. Keep it up

Aha.....and we're very "intrigued" as to what BioWare is doing with our game....I sure hope they aren't ruining it any more and have embraced the IT. Also make sure that Mr Hudson and Mr Walters are kept from damaging the franchise any further.

"our"???

You best believe it's our game.....it's how they always advertised it and should the EC flop the initial outrage will seem like a minor issue in comparison....that's when things get even more serious....Mass Returns and their fan base essentially gone. 

[BleedingUranium]

prettz wrote...


@paxxton  :lol: hohoho very nice move

BleedingUranium wrote...

prettz wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Well if the crucible does turn out to be a trap we can always fall back on Joker's plans

1) time travel
2) teaching the Reapers to love.

Also if you're refering to the interview with Hendriksen I didn't find anything that supported or denied IT...care to point out the potential evidence?

Now look what you made me do:whistle:
www.youtube.com/watch

By the way Prettz, I just watched your vid about the Predator & Carnifex, and I wanted to say I was very impressed with how the music went with the vid at the end

Also, does anyone else think it's odd that Mass Effect 1 & 2 both ended with that ME1 track? (It's called "The End" but that's not important here) What I mean is, isn't it odd that ME3 didn't.



As someone who very much pays attention to scores in stuff, I found that quite odd, and it's on my list of things that I'm expecting in EC. Not that I disliked "An End Once And For All" mind you.

The other thing I'm expecting (as in, for sure expecting, not even likely things like Crusible = trap) is Rachni being really important (as per a tweet a long time ago) in the "final battle with the Reapers".

a lot of the music was done differently in 3. did not like how many parts just had no music at all, heck I went and re-did the soundtrack with some ME2 ost for the harbinger run
www.youtube.com/watch

anyways I ask this earlier but no one replied but in the control ending. when shepard about to get electrocuted you can hear what sounds like a train:?

I watched it too, and subscribed

ME2's end run as soon as you destroy the proto-reaper, until the end of the game, is still my favourite part of any game (hell, most moives) ever. Assuming everyone lives  The music was a lot of it 

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 mai 2012 - 10:48 .

[Arian Dynas]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Lion Martinez wrote...

Wow, some great theorizing going on in this thread. I'm really enjoying it, it intrigues me. Keep it up

Aha.....and we're very "intrigued" as to what BioWare is doing with our game....I sure hope they aren't ruining it any more and have embraced the IT. Also make sure that Mr Hudson and Mr Walters are kept from damaging the franchise any further.

You behave.

It's "our" game in that it is ours and Bioware's split custody here people, we enjoy the game and create the story, without us, Bioware is nothing. Bioware creates the framework and the world, without them, we are nothing.

And you are aware, correct, that IT pretty much hinges itself of Messurs Hudson and Walters being brilliant writers, which by the way, they are. IT is their idea, not ours, we just discovered it.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 21 mai 2012 - 11:05 .

[Darth_Trethon]

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

[paxxton]

prettz wrote...


@paxxton  :lol: hohoho very nice move

BleedingUranium wrote...

prettz wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Well if the crucible does turn out to be a trap we can always fall back on Joker's plans

1) time travel
2) teaching the Reapers to love.

Also if you're refering to the interview with Hendriksen I didn't find anything that supported or denied IT...care to point out the potential evidence?

Now look what you made me do:whistle:
www.youtube.com/watch

By the way Prettz, I just watched your vid about the Predator & Carnifex, and I wanted to say I was very impressed with how the music went with the vid at the end

Also, does anyone else think it's odd that Mass Effect 1 & 2 both ended with that ME1 track? (It's called "The End" but that's not important here) What I mean is, isn't it odd that ME3 didn't.



As someone who very much pays attention to scores in stuff, I found that quite odd, and it's on my list of things that I'm expecting in EC. Not that I disliked "An End Once And For All" mind you.

The other thing I'm expecting (as in, for sure expecting, not even likely things like Crusible = trap) is Rachni being really important (as per a tweet a long time ago) in the "final battle with the Reapers".

a lot of the music was done differently in 3. did not like how many parts just had no music at all, heck I went and re-did the soundtrack with some ME2 ost for the harbinger run
www.youtube.com/watch

anyways I ask this earlier but no one replied but in the control ending. when shepard about to get electrocuted you can hear what sounds like a train:?

Thanks!

As for the "train" sound, I think it's the electricity (increasing frequency or some interference with Shepard's body, dunno). Though it sounds like a train leaving a station.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 mai 2012 - 11:04 .

[BleedingUranium]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

But... if IT is true, then there were no lies or deception.

[Arian Dynas]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

Yet considering IT, that would make everything they said a true statement. The poor PR? Intentional in the name of an alternate reality game to make us feel the doubt Shepard does, all their statements prior to ME3? To be fuilfilled with the arrival of ending DLC. So assuming that, tell me one point where they lie.

[MaximizedAction]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

Deception? Yes.
Lies? Technically, not.

Take note, that with IT and Casey's statement, that BW wanted to let the player feel what Shepard is feeling, deception is well within the ME3 framework. And there's no better way of letting the player imerge in the game, than playing an Alternate Reality Game.

If you as the player don't feel tricked as Shep should when indoctrinated then BW failed to give the player the full ME3 experience. Because that is Interactive gameplay in the very sense.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 mai 2012 - 11:11 .

[Darth_Trethon]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

But... if IT is true, then there were no lies or deception.

Kind of depends on what follows and while you are technically correct seeing the ending as is still hit me like a freight train and that I will never forget and will always be highly suspicious of them.

[Darth_Trethon]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

Yet considering IT, that would make everything they said a true statement. The poor PR? Intentional in the name of an alternate reality game to make us feel the doubt Shepard does, all their statements prior to ME3? To be fuilfilled with the arrival of ending DLC. So assuming that, tell me one point where they lie.

****** of nearly the whole fan base......poor way to consider your ARG a success really. I think they ran out of time....hope the EC is good.

[WizzyWarlock]

EpyonX3 wrote...
But again, why just the husk eyes and not the skin or anything else before he's absorbed? And what about Synthesis? Synthesis seems out of place since they both lead to the same destination of Shepard being indoctrinated. But like control, there's no husk skin, circuit boards, tubing or any other reaper feature. Just the eyes turn blue like TIM. 

Here's my theory on this: Everything leading up to the console actually happened. Shepard survived the blast and crawled to his feet, went up through the beam and into the Citadel. At the console, Anderson is the rational side of his mind while TIM is the Reaper Indoctrination attempt, neither of them are really there, it's a hallucination brought about by the indoctrination. The rational mind overcomes the attempt and TIM is killed, but then the rational side also gives up from exhaustion or.. whatever other reason, symbolized by Anderson stating, "It's been an age since I just sat down..".

Now in a state of near death, Shepard struggles over to the console to activate the Crucible, but passes out along the way. Now unconscious and in a dream-like state, he appears in front of the Starchild. From now on, this is all in his head. The Starchild is another attempt to Indoctrinate, this time using the described ideal of viewing the Reaper with a superstitious awe. We think it's some God-like being because that's how Shepard is viewing it. Shepard couldn't possibly really be here as it's open to space.

At this point you either give in to the Indoctrination, choosing Synthesis or Control, or make your last push and awaken to hit that button and fire the Crucible, Destroying the Reapers. If they weren't trying to be cryptic, I think they might have interlaced two scenes at this point, with Shepard awakening to hit the button and the scene of him shooting the pipe.

So in reply to your post, the eyes are the gateway to the soul, in essence you've handed yourself over to the Reapers and they take control of you. The body then vanishes at this point as it's all in the mind anyway, your body is no longer your own, it's under their power, so it disappears along with the rest of you.

And to those who question why if you have a low EMS that you only get the Destroy option - it's because Shepard hasn't done as much work, hasn't made as much effort, so his mind is stronger than someone who has worked so hard to bring everything together. A high EMS signifies exhaustion, while a low EMS brings a stronger mind.

Modifié par WizzyWarlock, 21 mai 2012 - 11:31 .

[BleedingUranium]

WizzyWarlock wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
But again, why just the husk eyes and not the skin or anything else before he's absorbed? And what about Synthesis? Synthesis seems out of place since they both lead to the same destination of Shepard being indoctrinated. But like control, there's no husk skin, circuit boards, tubing or any other reaper feature. Just the eyes turn blue like TIM. 

Here's my theory on this: Everything leading up to the console actually happened. Shepard survived the blast and crawled to his feet, went up through the beam and into the Citadel. At the console, Anderson is the rational side of his mind while TIM is the Reaper Indoctrination attempt, neither of them are really there, it's a hallucination brought about by the indoctrination. The rational mind overcomes the attempt and TIM is killed, but then the rational side also gives up from exhaustion or.. whatever other reason, symbolized by Anderson stating, "It's been an age since I just sat down..".

Now in a state of near death, Shepard struggles over to the console to activate the Crucible, but passes out along the way. Now unconscious and in a dream-like state, he appears in front of the Starchild. From now on, this is all in his head. The Starchild is another attempt to Indoctrinate, this time using the described ideal of viewing the Reaper with a superstitious awe. We think it's some God-like being because that's how Shepard is viewing it. Shepard couldn't possibly really be here as it's open to space.

At this point you either give in to the Indoctrination, choosing Synthesis or Control, or make your last push and awaken to hit that button and fire the Crucible, Destroying the Reapers. If they weren't trying to be cryptic, I think they might have interlaced two scenes at this point, with Shepard awakening to hit the button and the scene of him shooting the pipe.

So in reply to your post, the eyes are the gateway to the soul, in essence you've handed yourself over to the Reapers and they take control of you. The body then vanishes at this point as it's all in the mind anyway, your body is no longer your own, it's under their power, so it disappears along with the rest of you.

And to those who question why if you have a low EMS that you only get the Destroy option - it's because Shepard hasn't done as much work, hasn't made as much effort, so his mind is stronger than someone who has worked so hard to bring everything together. A high EMS signifies exhaustion, while a low EMS brings a stronger mind.

I think this is a pretty good theory. I could see it being that or what we have now (everything after the beam is in Shep's head), and would be okay with either. In yours, TIM and Anderson are basically Shep's Devil & Angel on his shoulders.

[paxxton]

HEADS UP, PEOPLE!!!

NEW GAMER POOP: MASS EFFECT 3 EPISODE HAS ARRIVED. ENJOY!

Modifié par paxxton, 21 mai 2012 - 12:31 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

WizzyWarlock wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
But again, why just the husk eyes and not the skin or anything else before he's absorbed? And what about Synthesis? Synthesis seems out of place since they both lead to the same destination of Shepard being indoctrinated. But like control, there's no husk skin, circuit boards, tubing or any other reaper feature. Just the eyes turn blue like TIM. 

Here's my theory on this: Everything leading up to the console actually happened. Shepard survived the blast and crawled to his feet, went up through the beam and into the Citadel. At the console, Anderson is the rational side of his mind while TIM is the Reaper Indoctrination attempt, neither of them are really there, it's a hallucination brought about by the indoctrination. The rational mind overcomes the attempt and TIM is killed, but then the rational side also gives up from exhaustion or.. whatever other reason, symbolized by Anderson stating, "It's been an age since I just sat down..".

Now in a state of near death, Shepard struggles over to the console to activate the Crucible, but passes out along the way. Now unconscious and in a dream-like state, he appears in front of the Starchild. From now on, this is all in his head. The Starchild is another attempt to Indoctrinate, this time using the described ideal of viewing the Reaper with a superstitious awe. We think it's some God-like being because that's how Shepard is viewing it. Shepard couldn't possibly really be here as it's open to space.

At this point you either give in to the Indoctrination, choosing Synthesis or Control, or make your last push and awaken to hit that button and fire the Crucible, Destroying the Reapers. If they weren't trying to be cryptic, I think they might have interlaced two scenes at this point, with Shepard awakening to hit the button and the scene of him shooting the pipe.

So in reply to your post, the eyes are the gateway to the soul, in essence you've handed yourself over to the Reapers and they take control of you. The body then vanishes at this point as it's all in the mind anyway, your body is no longer your own, it's under their power, so it disappears along with the rest of you.

And to those who question why if you have a low EMS that you only get the Destroy option - it's because Shepard hasn't done as much work, hasn't made as much effort, so his mind is stronger than someone who has worked so hard to bring everything together. A high EMS signifies exhaustion, while a low EMS brings a stronger mind.

Considered this as well, but the breath scene is still the massive problem here. It is quite clearly London rubble Shepard is waking up in, but if he is on the Citadel that makes no sense.

And even if the rubble was on the Citadel the way you lay it out Shepard would be waking up on the flor in front of the console, not in a pile of rubble.

Also I have to rbing this up, but Mass Effect fields are in effect all over the Citadel keeping the air inside. It is the same thing that keeps the Council chambers from venting into space when Sovreigns wreckage smash into the presidium tower. So yes, Shepard could feasibly be breathing in the Strbrat scene if it is true.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 21 mai 2012 - 12:40 .

[Arian Dynas]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I agree that IT is a BioWare creation and brilliant but I wouldn't give most credit to those two.....their lies and deception still burn.

But... if IT is true, then there were no lies or deception.

Kind of depends on what follows and while you are technically correct seeing the ending as is still hit me like a freight train and that I will never forget and will always be highly suspicious of them.

Well then laddybuck, that's your lookout. But since Bioware has given me years of enjoyment, nearly half of the games I call my favorites, as well as nearly half the shelf I call "good games" I think that Bioware has earned my trust, since they have hurt me alot less than any other gaming company, Bethesda excluded.

From every other company, we expect to be treated like trash, we're like a bunch of hookers going to our pimps, we expect to be beat up by other game companies, usually getting ****, but Bioware was that one John who treated us nice, was gentle and kind and genuine, then we get slapped in a fit of anger, it hurts alot more, and means alot more, but only because it was unexpected, and compared to some of the rapings I have recived from other game companies (I'm looking at you movieliscenced games) I am willing to go back to Bioware.

[Uncle Jo]

WizzyWarlock wrote...

Here's my theory on this: Everything leading up to the console actually happened. Shepard survived the blast and crawled to his feet, went up through the beam and into the Citadel. At the console, Anderson is the rational side of his mind while TIM is the Reaper Indoctrination attempt, neither of them are really there, it's a hallucination brought about by the indoctrination. The rational mind overcomes the attempt and TIM is killed, but then the rational side also gives up from exhaustion or.. whatever other reason, symbolized by Anderson stating, "It's been an age since I just sat down..".

Now in a state of near death, Shepard struggles over to the console to activate the Crucible, but passes out along the way. Now unconscious and in a dream-like state, he appears in front of the Starchild. From now on, this is all in his head. The Starchild is another attempt to Indoctrinate, this time using the described ideal of viewing the Reaper with a superstitious awe. We think it's some God-like being because that's how Shepard is viewing it. Shepard couldn't possibly really be here as it's open to space.

At this point you either give in to the Indoctrination, choosing Synthesis or Control, or make your last push and awaken to hit that button and fire the Crucible, Destroying the Reapers. If they weren't trying to be cryptic, I think they might have interlaced two scenes at this point, with Shepard awakening to hit the button and the scene of him shooting the pipe.

So in reply to your post, the eyes are the gateway to the soul, in essence you've handed yourself over to the Reapers and they take control of you. The body then vanishes at this point as it's all in the mind anyway, your body is no longer your own, it's under their power, so it disappears along with the rest of you.

And to those who question why if you have a low EMS that you only get the Destroy option - it's because Shepard hasn't done as much work, hasn't made as much effort, so his mind is stronger than someone who has worked so hard to bring everything together. A high EMS signifies exhaustion, while a low EMS brings a stronger mind.

It still doesn't explain the apparition of the trees after the blast and the piles of "bodies" near the beam. Furthermore if it actually happened, I don't see why the reapers left the path to the console so outrageously unguarded.
Why would they give you the opportunity to destroy them, while they can simply kill you and end the matter once and for all ? That's the main problem I have with the scene being entirely or even partly real.

Edit: I forgot also the breath scene.


One another subject :

In TSA_383 "Bioware's 2010 "Clues" for ME3 (IDT abound) Icinix rised a point about Arrival.

" Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon" (if you didn't play Arrival, in ME3 it's said that some marines did blow up the Relay and died in the operation).

Can we still take the Object Rho as an indoctrination source (for the IT to be true, it must also work in both cases, or I'm wrong ?)

@Arian Dynas
Yes you were right about the "it's just a game".

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 21 mai 2012 - 12:55 .

[WizzyWarlock]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Considered this as well, but the breath scene is still the massive problem here. It is quite clearly London rubble Shepard is waking up in, but if he is on the Citadel that makes no sense.

And even if the rubble was on the Citadel the way you lay it out Shepard would be waking up on the flor in front of the console, not in a pile of rubble.

Also I have to rbing this up, but Mass Effect fields are in effect all over the Citadel keeping the air inside. It is the same thing that keeps the Council chambers from venting into space when Sovreigns wreckage smash into the presidium tower. So yes, Shepard could feasibly be breathing in the Strbrat scene if it is true.

Nobody ever said the ending made a whole lot of sense. I think they just threw a bunch of things together to make multiple ideas a possibility. Like in my case, my last game I was with Vega and Garrus running down the hill, but in the ending scene Garrus is stepping out of the Normandy millions of miles away.

There are a lot of big holes in those final 20 minutes, lot of things that don't make sense, we just have to try and work them out as best we can. So far, nothing has explained every scene.

[Arian Dynas]

The Canonicity of Arrival is... strange right now.

According to the games, if you did not take part, your Shepard did not take part, and a team of marines was sent instead.

Yet according to the comics (which likely focus on the "canon" ultimate Shepard) Shepard did blow up the Alpha relay, and since the wrote the beginning from the perspective of the Ultimate Shepard, they would likely write the end as well, since the explanations for people who didn't do Arrival are tacked on anyway. Likely they chose not to make it canon in the games so as not to cheese off people who didn't play Arrival, so they weren't spamming the boards going; "MY SHEPARD DIDN'T BLOW UP A BUNCH OF BATARIANS!"

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

WizzyWarlock wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Considered this as well, but the breath scene is still the massive problem here. It is quite clearly London rubble Shepard is waking up in, but if he is on the Citadel that makes no sense.

And even if the rubble was on the Citadel the way you lay it out Shepard would be waking up on the flor in front of the console, not in a pile of rubble.

Also I have to rbing this up, but Mass Effect fields are in effect all over the Citadel keeping the air inside. It is the same thing that keeps the Council chambers from venting into space when Sovreigns wreckage smash into the presidium tower. So yes, Shepard could feasibly be breathing in the Strbrat scene if it is true.

Nobody ever said the ending made a whole lot of sense. I think they just threw a bunch of things together to make multiple ideas a possibility. Like in my case, my last game I was with Vega and Garrus running down the hill, but in the ending scene Garrus is stepping out of the Normandy millions of miles away.

There are a lot of big holes in those final 20 minutes, lot of things that don't make sense, we just have to try and work them out as best we can. So far, nothing has explained every scene.

Shepard halucinating/Indoctrination everything from the moment he is hit by Harbingers beam explains just about everything. No it is not confirmed or certain, but so far it leaves the smallest holes in it all.

And it is no big suprise a squadmate from your choosen squad steps of the Nomandy at the end, that is one of the strangest things beyond the fact that Joker and your entire crew is running from the battle. But that scene, that idylic scene at the end can be explained as the Reapers appeasing Shepard, showing him his friends are safe to make him relax and give up any struggle that might be left.

[Dwailing]

Arian Dynas wrote...

The Canonicity of Arrival is... strange right now.

According to the games, if you did not take part, your Shepard did not take part, and a team of marines was sent instead.

Yet according to the comics (which likely focus on the "canon" ultimate Shepard) Shepard did blow up the Alpha relay, and since the wrote the beginning from the perspective of the Ultimate Shepard, they would likely write the end as well, since the explanations for people who didn't do Arrival are tacked on anyway. Likely they chose not to make it canon in the games so as not to cheese off people who didn't play Arrival, so they weren't spamming the boards going; "MY SHEPARD DIDN'T BLOW UP A BUNCH OF BATARIANS!"

The events of Arrival are canon.  What's up for debate is whether Shepard being the one to destroy the relay is canon.  And while I acknowledge that yes in the default Shepard you didn't complete Arrival, canon has always been a funny thing in ME, thanks to the choices that you make along the way.  So honestly, I really don't know right now.  But what I do know is that Mac Walters was the one who wrote that comic, so I figure he must have done that for a reason.

[Rifneno]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just had a fun thought. I was watching the "Take Earth Back" trailer and noticed Shepard and Ashley standing in front of a Hammerhead, looks like it's parked to like they just stepped out of it. I know Cortez mentioned something about it getting a retrofit back on Earth, and hey since you're there at the end -and if IT plays out in some form- maybe that's how we'll get to beat back the rest of the Reaper ground forces. Hope those refits included some better armor if that's the case, still would be fun.

If they're giving us vehicles back, hell give us control of the Normandy too. Always wanted to fly that beauty Thanix cannon first into a Reaper fleet.

...  If IT gives us back the Hammerhead, I think I may be happier with literalist interpretation.  It may ruin the universe, but at least I never have to use that goddamn thing again.

And I agree with those saying the pics of Shepard getting Reaperized are fairly horrifying.  When you know what's going on... wow.  

[Uncle Jo]

Arian Dynas wrote...

The Canonicity of Arrival is... strange right now.

According to the games, if you did not take part, your Shepard did not take part, and a team of marines was sent instead.

Yet according to the comics (which likely focus on the "canon" ultimate Shepard) Shepard did blow up the Alpha relay, and since the wrote the beginning from the perspective of the Ultimate Shepard, they would likely write the end as well, since the explanations for people who didn't do Arrival are tacked on anyway. Likely they chose not to make it canon in the games so as not to cheese off people who didn't play Arrival, so they weren't spamming the boards going; "MY SHEPARD DIDN'T BLOW UP A BUNCH OF BATARIANS!"

Agreed. Though, it would have been an irrefutable proof for a long time indoc process... God why did they have to do it so ambiguous...
But when I consider the number of people who are not aware about how the Indoc works, I'm starting to think that BW should give an "Indoctrinaton guide" and a "clues list" along with the DLC EC if they want to avoid a second internet war...

[estebanus]

Hello again. Anything new?

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just had a fun thought. I was watching the "Take Earth Back" trailer and noticed Shepard and Ashley standing in front of a Hammerhead, looks like it's parked to like they just stepped out of it. I know Cortez mentioned something about it getting a retrofit back on Earth, and hey since you're there at the end -and if IT plays out in some form- maybe that's how we'll get to beat back the rest of the Reaper ground forces. Hope those refits included some better armor if that's the case, still would be fun.

If they're giving us vehicles back, hell give us control of the Normandy too. Always wanted to fly that beauty Thanix cannon first into a Reaper fleet.

...  If IT gives us back the Hammerhead, I think I may be happier with literalist interpretation.  It may ruin the universe, but at least I never have to use that goddamn thing again.

And I agree with those saying the pics of Shepard getting Reaperized are fairly horrifying.  When you know what's going on... wow.  

I actually think it would be nice to get the Hammerhead back.... as long as they fix the tissue paper armor issue.  I mean seriously, that thing goes down in what, two shots?  At least the Mako could take a few hits, even if that stupid vertically aligned mass effect field meant that it moved like a beached whale.