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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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BansheeOwnage

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

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There are a couple of quotes...one from Liara that says something like, "I don't want you to talk to that tentacled thing again, the only tentacles that I want in your head are mine"...or something like that.


Further solidifying Liara as a creepy person...


That's only if you don't want her tentacles in your mind. Posted Image


True, but I don't think I'll ever regard tentacles as anything but creepy, even if I did like her. Creepy statement is creepy... :sick:

Hey, Liara is an introvert who doesn't fully understand the art and nuances of the art of human communication (I can relate). It's not her fault she blurts out things that sound weird.:?

Is it ok that I find her blurts that wound weird sexy?

#37002
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D.Sharrah wrote...

Yeah...it was a theory with holes to put it kindly.  But I felt at the time it was a direction that we could speculate on, given the information that we had...its a shame, it would have made them so much more interesting if there was still a part of the "Protheans" beating against the glass...


Indeed!  It would have been one hell of a plot twist, and tragic at the same time when Shepard realises they've just killed a potential ally.

Of course, these Protheans would be utter extremists - using any method they can to survive, including genetically modifying themselves to survive long terms of isolation and surrendering individual free will to surve the bigger goal.  Talking them out of their insane and desperate plans would have been impossible.

The Human Reaper could have been a prototype they were creating to fight back against the Reapers, using their own methods and tactics.  Possibly they could have captured a Reaper for their own studies - or have a Reaper created from Protheans that defected to their cause.

It could be revealed that TIM was hiding the truth all along, and he knew the Collectors were fighting the Reapers.  This would easily explain the sudden falling out post-mission, and add a 'magnificent bastard' element to TIM.  Would also foreshadow that he was the Reaper servant all along, even if he wasn't aware of it.

Ah, what could have been.

#37003
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Either.Ardrey wrote...

Snip...

Hey, Liara is an introvert who doesn't fully understand the art and nuances of the art of human communication (I can relate). It's not her fault she blurts out things that sound weird.:?


If you couldn't tell from my response...it wouldn't bother me at all...I want Liara's tentacles in my mind. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way


If it came with a side of fries and a large Tali Romance Scene, maybe. :whistle:

That reminds me. They need a scene with your LI in an epilogue. Just saying...


Oh, they did... your LI can hold your name plate.

Anyway, I'll need a Sam's Club sized jar of burn ointment after what Harbinger did.

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Jessica tweeted yesterday that they are done with ending DLC "for now" - interestingly put.


How long must we wait!!!  we deserve our ending! :devil:



Where is this tweet? I couldn't find it.     :/



I'd have to look. Its pretty old

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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Turbo_J wrote...

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Snip...


Snip...


I suspect Leviathan is organic. It's not a reaper. It may actually be a cuddle fish looking organic. Reference of the Thorian and Liara saying something about a tentacle monster lends to this.


Snip...

Edit:  Here is a link to the dialogue, seems to suggest pretty stongly that Leviathan is a Reaper:

http://social.biowar...2/1447#12895485


Mention of the Thorian, as in a comparison to the way it enslaves it's thralls. I didn't say anything about one being there.


The bigger point being that the dialogue heavily suggests that Leviathan is  a Reaper.

It does. It's at least non-organic. It has AI shackles.


I sit corrected. The AI shackles could point to what I've suspected - that a single AI consciousness governs an organic gestalt intellect made up of the species harvested. In essence, it's a reaper controlled by those harvested organics. I can't wait for answers, that's for sure. The mysteries in ME 1 are what made it one of the best games I've ever played. ME3 seems to be shaping up that way too.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Here is a link, enjoy!

http://social.biowar...2/1447#12895485


Snip..

I really hope they don't go all biblical on us.Posted Image No offense to anyone.Posted Image


When you are doing a story about good and evil I think that it is almost impossible to keep all bibical references out if it...As long as they don't beat us over the head with it...I'm ok with it.

I'm not sure this is Liara.
"Too much intel, too many places for secrets to hide. I'm going to have to start sleeping less."

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way


If it came with a side of fries and a large Tali Romance Scene, maybe. :whistle:

That reminds me. They need a scene with your LI in an epilogue. Just saying...


Oh, they did... your LI can hold your name plate.

Anyway, I'll need a Sam's Club sized jar of burn ointment after what Harbinger did.

Not what I meant by "scene with your LI"Posted Image

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Xavendithas wrote...

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Agreed. But Javik's prejudice towards synthetics is born out of his experience with them, versus Shepards experience with synthetics which is different. The Geth only reacted towards aggressions by the Quarians. Javik is clearly trying to convey something about Leviathan to Shepard using the story of the Devil symbolically.


Yes.  Never said his feelings weren't justified.  But that you needed to take what he says with a grain of salt.  If I understand the implications of the dialogue - we will have the opportunity to gain Leviathan as an ally...and that would be one hell of gamble, no matter how you slice it.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...
Is it ok that I find her blurts that wound weird sexy?

I personally found them adorable. I first played ME1 post ME2 release, so I came into ME1 telling myself to go solo in it to go with Miranda in 2, but Liara won me over because of that.

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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Here is a link, enjoy!

http://social.biowar...2/1447#12895485


Snip..

I really hope they don't go all biblical on us.Posted Image No offense to anyone.Posted Image


When you are doing a story about good and evil I think that it is almost impossible to keep all bibical references out if it...As long as they don't beat us over the head with it...I'm ok with it.

I'm not sure this is Liara.
"Too much intel, too many places for secrets to hide. I'm going to have to start sleeping less."

She's the Shadow Broker.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Jessica tweeted yesterday that they are done with ending DLC "for now" - interestingly put.


How long must we wait!!!  we deserve our ending! :devil:


Why did they do this. The lied to use so hear you go to all that disprove IT  and this will bring back many ITers that deffected.

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paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way

Which way?

That way? Posted Image

Posted ImagePosted Image


I would bet that mostof us would pay to see IT, which makes it a win win for BW and us. BW and EA make their money, we get the ending that we so desperately want, and the ME franchise gets the treatment that it deserves. This would also rejuvenate interest in the entire ME series again, and would lead to fans playing through and buying the all games all over again. Why wouldn't BW give us IT

Modifié par UrgedDuke, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:58 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Here is a link, enjoy!

http://social.biowar...2/1447#12895485


Snip..

I really hope they don't go all biblical on us.Posted Image No offense to anyone.Posted Image


When you are doing a story about good and evil I think that it is almost impossible to keep all bibical references out if it...As long as they don't beat us over the head with it...I'm ok with it.

I'm not sure this is Liara.
"Too much intel, too many places for secrets to hide. I'm going to have to start sleeping less."

She's the Shadow Broker.

Yes, I know. Maybe it's her line.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:58 .


#37015
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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Here is a link, enjoy!

http://social.biowar...2/1447#12895485


Snip..

I really hope they don't go all biblical on us.Posted Image No offense to anyone.Posted Image


When you are doing a story about good and evil I think that it is almost impossible to keep all bibical references out if it...As long as they don't beat us over the head with it...I'm ok with it.

I'm not sure this is Liara.
"Too much intel, too many places for secrets to hide. I'm going to have to start sleeping less."


Yeah...they were my best guesses...I thought that fit with Liara being the Shadow Broker...who do you think it is?

Edit: Posted ImagePosted Image'd

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:58 .


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If you couldn't tell from my response...it wouldn't bother me at all...I want Liara's tentacles in my mind. Posted Image

Like I said, I can relate. Oops:unsure:

Though I do believe the person before that said something about not wanting it. Maybe it was my bad.:P

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Is it ok that I find her blurts that wound weird sexy?

I personally found them adorable. I first played ME1 post ME2 release, so I came into ME1 telling myself to go solo in it to go with Miranda in 2, but Liara won me over because of that.

It would be too hard not to romance her. But thinking of the endings, it reminds me of how broken she was after you died in ME2. Seeing her like that again would just be horrible.Posted Image With the current state of the endings it's almost worth not romancing her at all. Like it would hurt her less.Posted Image

Edit: Sorry, was that too emotional?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 juillet 2012 - 03:00 .


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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Captain Scruff N7 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Jessica tweeted yesterday that they are done with ending DLC "for now" - interestingly put.


How long must we wait!!!  we deserve our ending! :devil:



Where is this tweet? I couldn't find it.     :/



I'd have to look. Its pretty old


found it: 
https://twitter.com/...801261263765505 

#37019
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v0rt3x22 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Captain Scruff N7 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Jessica tweeted yesterday that they are done with ending DLC "for now" - interestingly put.


How long must we wait!!!  we deserve our ending! :devil:



Where is this tweet? I couldn't find it.     :/



I'd have to look. Its pretty old


found it: 
https://twitter.com/...801261263765505 


also: 
https://twitter.com/...810081557909504 

and: 
https://twitter.com/...805413280788480 

#37020
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UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way

Which way?

That way? Posted Image

Posted ImagePosted Image


I would bet that mostof us would pay to see IT, which makes it a win win for BW and us. BW and EA make their money, we get the ending that we so desperately want, and the ME franchise gets the treatment that it deserves. This would also rejuvenate interest in the entire ME series again, and would lead to fans playing through and buying the all games all over again. Why wouldn't BW give us IT

Good question.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way

Which way?

That way? Posted Image

Posted ImagePosted Image


I would bet that mostof us would pay to see IT, which makes it a win win for BW and us. BW and EA make their money, we get the ending that we so desperately want, and the ME franchise gets the treatment that it deserves. This would also rejuvenate interest in the entire ME series again, and would lead to fans playing through and buying the all games all over again. Why wouldn't BW give us IT

LOL. I read your original post inattentively. I'm tired so I started reading from the end. Posted Image jk
Of course, I would buy it. Especially if it was Mass Effect 4.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 juillet 2012 - 03:09 .


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UrgedDuke wrote...

would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way


Would I pay for getting led on for months with strings of vague details, hints, and disappointment for an ending that actually thematically fits into the series and makes sense within the story?


Hell yes I would.

#37023
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Not what I meant by "scene with your LI"Posted Image


Well, it's kinda hard to do when you're: (A) Transmutated into an AI platform Reaper Deity; (B) Destroyed utterly and shot throughout everything in the galaxy; or © Blown up with a giant space station.

(D) is apparently too epic fail to let us know what happened, specifically, after "Reject"

So, if high asset © or IT stand as any indication, we're still going to need ointment. The good kind; that is likely banned... because the best medicine is usually banned for bullcrap reasons. Thank goodness for the Terminus Systems.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

would you guys pay to see IT if BW decided to do it that way


yes and even if its only to troll the community with "I told you so" :P

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It would be too hard not to romance her. But thinking of the endings, it reminds me of how broken she was after you died in ME2. Seeing her like that again would just be horrible.Posted Image With the current state of the endings it's almost worth not romancing her at all. Like it would hurt her less.Posted Image

Edit: Sorry, was that too emotional?


Taking into account that she's a fictional character, Yes

Taking into account that she's a karking awesome fictional character, No.:D