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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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SixG90

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TSA_383 wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

Wasn't here for two days... What did you guys discuss in the meantime? :)


http://social.biowar.../index/12912202

MaximizedAction wrote...

Is that a confirmation, or not?

twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/219573863359590400


Seems like it.


Oh My God!!! :blink: Also, the one besides him, is he the one that shoots husk to save a private?

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Still the best case scenario I hope for. Still waiting on those ANN feed updates though, they stopped around the Turian's war with the Reapers.

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Hmm, the Alliance News network has gone down? That's bad news, it means the Reapers have finally managed to cut off Quantum communications with Earth.

Now we're all going to have to make do with Battlespace. Ugh.

But one way or another, I wrote this theory about their marketing nearly a month ago, and it's still relevant.

That's got to say something.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:56 .


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leonia42 wrote...

Everyone knows the overly British sounding guy must be evil.

Heh
This is precisely why I don't make videos like the Clevernoob guy :lol:
Dawwwing at kittens could probably sound evil in my accent...

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People are still posting in here? =O

IT's over.. lol. Now where's that cut and paste post from Tully Ackland saying "The EC represents the definitive cut, there will be no post ending DLC" or something like that lol.

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Bushido Effect wrote...

People are still posting in here? =O

IT's over.. lol. Now where's that cut and paste post from Tully Ackland saying "The EC represents the definitive cut, there will be no post ending DLC" or something like that lol.

If you don't like it or support it, you don't have to post here, you know...
In other words, GTFO.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

-snip pictures of Coates-


It's nice to see that being holed up in a clock tower for months during a Cthulhu invasion didn't keep the man away from a razor. How did the British get that bad teeth reputation with such impeccable personal hygiene? I shaved with an expensive electric razor about 12 hours ago and I've got a worse 5 o'clock shadow.

Afalstein wrote...

Oh. Okay then. I thought this was a discussion topic, not a mutual agreement topic. My bad.


You're not discussing anything, you're belittling everyone who pays attention better than you do. Now stop playing the victim card. If you learn to use your head for more than a hatrack, you're welcome to come back and try to debate with more than "but EC explained everything" as if the only points for IT were teleporting squad and the lack of a scene with Shepard being spurt out of the beam like he's at a crappy water park.

leonia42 wrote...

Unless the difference was staggering.. we've all seen the differences between CGI and in-game versions of characters before so you're right, that alone can't be taken to mean anything. But if it were in addition to other things.. regardless, something is off but we don't have enough to figure out what it is or (even better) why it matters.


Agreed. Hell, trailer Coates and in-game Coates look like identical twins compared to awesome trailer FemShep and botched DNA manipulation experiment in-game FemShep.

Incredibly horrible default FemShep models aside, the hair of the two Coates is nearly identical. That says, at least IMO, that this is intended to be the same man. Whether he's the same man mentally is anyone's guess.

Andromidius wrote...

I'm a guy and honestly I agree - Big Ben Coats is a hunk of manmeat. And Turian women were sorely ignored in ME3, despite a good chance to introduce them on Palavan. Though it is mentioned that humans struggle to tell the difference between Turians, so its possible we've seen lots of female Turians already and they just look exactly like males (we already know they serve in the military as wel). Heck, half the Turians we talk to may have been women too and they just have deep voices!


Sexually monomorphic FTW. Really, we're lucky they even gave Dalatrass Linron a high voice so we knew to call her a **** instead of a bastard.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hmmm. Nothings happening. The crucible's not firing. I'm going to bed goodnight everyone.


Awww. Don't worry, it happens to every guy eventually I hear.

Arian Dynas wrote...

*sigh* here we go again...


THIS HURTS ME. </Harbinger voice>

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DJBare wrote...

Don't be so certain about destroy, the way things have played out since the EC has me wary of destroy, it's gone on my list of not trusted choices along with the other two, man I never thought my conviction for destroy would be in doubt, well played Bioware.


Same here. But for me, it's Refuse that hopelessly won over my heart.

Yeah, sure, the breath scene is in Destroy but...meh, maybe I've grown accustomed to it and with Refuse they offered another mysterious 'outcome'.

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Hey guys - I'm back after being gone for about 6-7 hours - so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

But I saw this:

Arian Dynas wrote...

To be entirely honest with you?

I don't think the EC was planned at all.


Are there people who say EC was planned? :huh:

Modifié par v0rt3x22, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:11 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

*sigh* here we go again...

*awesome scenario*


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Bushido Effect

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MilitanT07 wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...

People are still posting in here? =O

IT's over.. lol. Now where's that cut and paste post from Tully Ackland saying "The EC represents the definitive cut, there will be no post ending DLC" or something like that lol.

If you don't like it or support it, you don't have to post here, you know...
In other words, GTFO.


I like the detail of the theory itself.  But I say its over now with the EC.

And your language can GTFO.  I didn't start like that.

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Hey guys - I'm back after being gone for about 6-7 hours - so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

But I saw this:

Arian Dynas wrote...

To be entirely honest with you?

I don't think the EC was planned at all.


Are there people who say EC was planned? :huh:


It was.  Twitter feeds even confirmed the EC was planned for post-launch, they just moved it ahead of scedule after the uproar.

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Bushido Effect wrote...

I like the detail of the theory itself.  But I say its over now with the EC.

And your language can GTFO.  I didn't start like that.


No one cares what you say.

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Andromidius wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Hey guys - I'm back after being gone for about 6-7 hours - so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

But I saw this:

Arian Dynas wrote...

To be entirely honest with you?

I don't think the EC was planned at all.


Are there people who say EC was planned? :huh:


It was.  Twitter feeds even confirmed the EC was planned for post-launch, they just moved it ahead of scedule after the uproar.


I found these tweets a bit ambiguous. It wasn't explicitly written that the EC was planned. It was more a 'we always had big plans'.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:29 .


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Let's begin speculating about the speculations now. Does it matter whether the EC was fully planned beforehand or not?

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Bushido Effect wrote...

I like the detail of the theory itself.  But I say its over now with the EC.


Why?  The facts say otherwise, and just walking into a massive thread full of very long blocks of discussive text to make a 'lol' remark about people still talking is very antagonistic.

Fact is, EC has strengthened IT.  You might disagree, and you're welcome to stick around if you want to debate the points.  But this thread won't be going anywhere soon.

Not to mention Bioware did state they won't be confirming or denying the theory.  And they did exactly what they said in that regard - they merely prettied up the endings for literalists, and added new weird clues for the skeptics.

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Rifneno wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...

I like the detail of the theory itself.  But I say its over now with the EC.

And your language can GTFO.  I didn't start like that.


No one cares what you say.


congrats on having a opinion.  I don't care about you either.

Modifié par Bushido Effect, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:28 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

I found these tweets a big ambiguous. It wasn't explicitly written that the EC was planned. It was more a 'we always had big plans'.


Yeah, I suppose.  I took it to mean that the EC was them putting their plans into motion faster.

Even though the EC still feels like a rushed checklist job...

/nodonotgodownthatroaddeepbreaths

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Andromidius wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I found these tweets a big ambiguous. It wasn't explicitly written that the EC was planned. It was more a 'we always had big plans'.


Yeah, I suppose.  I took it to mean that the EC was them putting their plans into motion faster.

Even though the EC still feels like a rushed checklist job...

/nodonotgodownthatroaddeepbreaths


Oh, comparing it to the original ending, I don't think so.
While I found the original endings more interesting (once you accept that something might be wrong), the new clues feel much better implemented and sophisticated, but unfortunately nearly 'dumbed down' with respect to the original clues. If you noticed the old clues, it's almost too easy to spot the new ones, and stuff like losing in the Refuse is almost ridiculously weird.

But, I'm not complaining, it's better that way, since those clues are now better acceptable for potential IT-newcomers.

But then again, strangely enough, that's not the only thing the EC did. For some reason Bioware decided to, for example, let the Normandy escape now from the shockwave. Yeah, it's maybe so that fans know, their squad is fine, but...still...there are relatively huge differences; not just an Extended Cut...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:38 .


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Andromidius wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...

I like the detail of the theory itself.  But I say its over now with the EC.


Why?  The facts say otherwise, and just walking into a massive thread full of very long blocks of discussive text to make a 'lol' remark about people still talking is very antagonistic.

Fact is, EC has strengthened IT.  You might disagree, and you're welcome to stick around if you want to debate the points.  But this thread won't be going anywhere soon.

Not to mention Bioware did state they won't be confirming or denying the theory.  And they did exactly what they said in that regard - they merely prettied up the endings for literalists, and added new weird clues for the skeptics.



I apologize, I was thinking about the statement Tully Ackland made regarding the ending when he said:

"Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings."

But I'm still open to new revelations as they open up.  But for me, I was happy with the EC. Was good IMHO.

Modifié par Bushido Effect, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:39 .


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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

-snip pictures of Coates-


It's nice to see that being holed up in a clock tower for months during a Cthulhu invasion didn't keep the man away from a razor. How did the British get that bad teeth reputation with such impeccable personal hygiene? I shaved with an expensive electric razor about 12 hours ago and I've got a worse 5 o'clock shadow.


It's what comes with having mostly free healthcare but not really free dentistry ;)
When you take a population used to paying at most ~£20 during a stay in hospital and tell them a dental checkup's going to run them 8 times that, well... yeah.

The "bad teeth" thing's exaggerated, sure, but there's some truth to it :lol:

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Andromidius wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I
found these tweets a big ambiguous. It wasn't explicitly written that
the EC was planned. It was more a 'we always had big plans'.


Yeah, I suppose.  I took it to mean that the EC was them putting their plans into motion faster.

Even though the EC still feels like a rushed checklist job...

/nodonotgodownthatroaddeepbreaths


Oh, comparing it to the original ending, I don't think so.
While
I found the original endings more interesting, once you accept that
something might be wrong, the new one's clues feel much more
sophisticated, but unfortunately nearly 'dumbed down' with respect to
the original clues. If you noticed the old clues, it's almost too easy
to spot the new ones.

But then again, strangely enough, that's
not the only thing the EC did. For some reason Bioware decided to, for
example, let the Normandy escape now from the shockwave. Yeah, it's
maybe so that fans know, their squad is fine, but...still...there are
relatively huge differences; not just an Extended Cut...

Honestly I think the EC was the version bioware would have released if they'd been given their extra time to get the game ready for release. There aren't major fundamental differences to how it was originally, and it's still as ambiguous as ****.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, comparing it to the original ending, I don't think so.
While I found the original endings more interesting (once you accept that something might be wrong), the new clues feel much better implemented and sophisticated, but unfortunately nearly 'dumbed down' with respect to the original clues. If you noticed the old clues, it's almost too easy to spot the new ones, and stuff like losing in the Refuse is almost ridiculously weird.

But, I'm not complaining, it's better that way, since those clues are now better acceptable for potential IT-newcomers.

But then again, strangely enough, that's not the only thing the EC did. For some reason Bioware decided to, for example, let the Normandy escape now from the shockwave. Yeah, it's maybe so that fans know, their squad is fine, but...still...there are relatively huge differences; not just an Extended Cut...


I like the extra clues.

I dislike the almost insultingly obvious plot-changes to 'sooth the fans'.  The Normandy rescue, shockwave and non-crash, for example...  Completely unnecessary, but fans would flip their nut if it was left open ended!

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Andromidius wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Hey guys - I'm back after being gone for about 6-7 hours - so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

But I saw this:

Arian Dynas wrote...

To be entirely honest with you?

I don't think the EC was planned at all.


Are there people who say EC was planned? :huh:


It was.  Twitter feeds even confirmed the EC was planned for post-launch, they just moved it ahead of scedule after the uproar.


I don't understand anything anymore....so they knew from the start that the original endings needed additional context? :? *so confused*

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Hey guys - I'm back after being gone for about 6-7 hours - so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

But I saw this:

Arian Dynas wrote...

To be entirely honest with you?

I don't think the EC was planned at all.


Are there people who say EC was planned? :huh:

Pre-EC times there was a lot of them. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:42 .


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v0rt3x22 wrote...

I don't understand anything anymore....so they knew from the start that the original endings needed additional context? :? *so confused*


Probably because of time constraints.  They knew they didn't have time, so they planned to come back and finish it off later after launch.  EA rushed the heck out of them, and its obvious from much of the rest of the game - it just wasn't ready to ship yet!