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[MegumiAzusa]

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

[Salient Archer]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

[Salient Archer]

Double Post

Edit: Formatting screwed up real post.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 21 mai 2012 - 02:06 .

[Kurrabin]

RaidShock wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Pairing this with the files that were found on disc, the thessia and tuchunka textures found in the final level and the leak a month ago that was quickly dismissed by Bioware, (I mean really quick! Within an hour!) that says they'll be making scenes showing the effects of your decisions on those planets and Palaven has me convinced.

Gamble's comments at PAX also lead me to believe it is something along these lines.

What was the leak? And is there a link to the PAX comments? I seem to have missed them.

[Salient Archer]

EDIT: I hate how this damn comment editor anti-formats everything I type, until tomorrow people. Sorry for the spamming

Modifié par Salient Archer, 21 mai 2012 - 02:13 .

[Salient Archer]

Ok, take 3 ... I've been looking into some of the indoctrinated that have appeared throughout the Mass Effect series. Although I haven't included everyone I have included a cross section from within the series, I'm not going to spoon-feed you what I've noticed by looking over the lists, the actual point of these posts is to see if anyone else can see the clear patterns that I'm starting to see.

<2157>
Ben Hislop
-Pro-human soldier who fought in the first contact war.
-Has direct contact with the reaper artifact: Arch Monolith
-Contact turns him into a husk but still has some semblance of his personality.
-Despite signs of his previous self being present, the Arch Monolith controls him.

Jack Harper
-The illusive man.
-Powerful and influential pro-human leader of Cerberus.
-Is subtly indoctrinated by the Arch Monolith via indirect contact.
-Is permanently affected by the Arch Monolith, altering his eyes, his thought patterns and granting him the powers to sense Reaper Artifacts and also to speak alien dialects including that of the Reapers.
-Is obsessed with human dominance and controlling the Reapers.

Desolas Arterius
-Powerful and influential Turian General.
-Obsessed with Turian dominance.
-Obsessed with using the Arch Monolith to create super soldiers.
-Is shown to be able to speak Reaper [a sign of contact]
-Initially has indirect contact with the Arch Monolith to later have directly touched it.

Saren Arterius
-Incredibly famous and influential Turian Spectre.
-The youngest Turian ever accepted into the Spectres.
-Pro-Turian and very outspoken opponent of humanity.
-Has proximity to the Arch Monolith, although not shown to be indoctrinated.
-Indoctrination possibly initiated in either 2157 due to proximity to the Arch Monolith or in 2165 when in contact with the Artifact recovered from Edan Had’dah.

[EpyonX3]

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

[Salient Archer]

 

Ok, take 3 ... I've been looking into some of the indoctrinated that have appeared throughout the Mass Effect series. Although I haven't included everyone I have included a cross section from within the series, I'm not going to spoon-feed you what I've noticed by looking over the lists, the actual point of these posts is to see if anyone else can see the clear patterns that I'm starting to see.

<2157>
Ben Hislop
-Pro-human soldier who fought in the first contact war.
-Has direct contact with the reaper artifact: Arch Monolith
-Contact turns him into a husk but still has some semblance of his personality.
-Despite signs of his previous self being present, the Arch Monolith controls him.

Jack Harper
-The illusive man.
-Powerful and influential pro-human leader of Cerberus.
-Is subtly indoctrinated by the Arch Monolith via indirect contact.
-Is permanently affected by the Arch Monolith, altering his eyes, his thought patterns and granting him the powers to sense Reaper Artifacts and also to speak alien dialects including that of the Reapers.
-Is obsessed with human dominance and controlling the Reapers.

Desolas Arterius
-Powerful and influential Turian General.
-Obsessed with Turian dominance.
-Obsessed with using the Arch Monolith to create super soldiers.
-Is shown to be able to speak Reaper [a sign of contact]
-Initially has indirect contact with the Arch Monolith to later have directly touched it.


Saren Arterius
-Incredibly famous and influential Turian Spectre.
-The youngest Turian ever accepted into the Spectres.
-Pro-Turian and very outspoken opponent of humanity.
-Has proximity to the Arch Monolith, although not shown to be indoctrinated.
-Indoctrination possibly initiated in either 2157 due to proximity to the Arch Monolith or in 2165 when in contact with the Artifact recovered from Edan Had’dah.

<2162>Edan Had’dah-Influential and incredibly wealthy Batarian aristocrat and entrepreneur.-Like most Batarians is xenophobic and expressly anti-human.-Subtly indoctrinated by an uncovered Reaper Artifact.-Due to indoctrination he was obsessed with unlocking the artifacts secrets to the point of putting aside his hatred of humans to seek the help of Alliance scientist Dr.Shu Qian.

Dr. Shu Qian-Alliance head scientist in-charge of developing and understanding AI.-Indoctrinated by the Reaper Artifact uncovered by Had’dah.-Indoctrination made him obsessed with unlocking it’s secrets.-Obsession lead him to have all of his workers and staff murdered.

<2183>Matriarch Benezia-influential and powerful Asari Matriarch-Believed that Asari should be the pinnacle of life in the galaxy.-Tried to dissuade Saren from his destructive path only to be indoctrinated.-Indoctrinated due to proximity and contact to Sovereign.-Was able to protect part of her mind from being indoctrinated.
<2185>Dr. Amanda Kenson-Noted scientist form the university of Arcturus.-Notable for discovering that mass relays pre-dated the Portheans.-Kenson and her entire staff are Indoctrinated by Object Rho-Was dissuaded from destroying the Alpha relay due to indoctrination [despite being just a button push away]-Tried everything in her power to stop Shepard from launching an asteroid into the Alpha Relay.-Was possibly used to lure Shepard to Object Rho.
Commander Shepard-First Human Spectre.-Influential N7 marine and leader.-Stopped rogue spectre Saren.-Instrumental in stoping Geth Heretics.-Instrumental in stoping Reaper vanguard Sovereign.-Neutralized the collector threat.-Was resurrected-Spearhead of the Alliance.-United the known galaxy against the Reapers-Symbol of Hope, Triumph and Strength.-Has been in contact with more Reapers and Reaper artifacts than all previously mentioned on the list. Including Artifacts, objects, bases and even derelict and living Reapers themselves.

[Salient Archer]

^^^ why does formatting hate me tonight?^^^ ~sigh~ I'm so sorry guys for that mess.

[Salient Archer]

Ok, this is seriously my last attempt at making this all work, if I could delete my previous posts I honestly would but it will not even let me edit them. So once again, I'm very sorry for all the spamming and I hope it doesn't deflate what I'm trying to present here.

Ok, take 3 ... I've been looking into some of the indoctrinated that have appeared throughout the Mass Effect series. Although I haven't included everyone I have included a cross section from within the series, I'm not going to spoon-feed you what I've noticed by looking over the lists, the actual point of these posts is to see if anyone else can see the clear patterns that I'm starting to see.

<2157>
Ben Hislop
-Pro-human soldier who fought in the first contact war.
-Has direct contact with the reaper artifact: Arch Monolith
-Contact turns him into a husk but still has some semblance of his personality.
-Despite signs of his previous self being present, the Arch Monolith controls him.

Jack Harper
-The illusive man.
-Powerful and influential pro-human leader of Cerberus.
-Is subtly indoctrinated by the Arch Monolith via indirect contact.
-Is permanently affected by the Arch Monolith, altering his eyes, his thought patterns and granting him the powers to sense Reaper Artifacts and also to speak alien dialects including that of the Reapers.
-Is obsessed with human dominance and controlling the Reapers.

Desolas Arterius
-Powerful and influential Turian General.
-Obsessed with Turian dominance.
-Obsessed with using the Arch Monolith to create super soldiers.
-Is shown to be able to speak Reaper [a sign of contact]
-Initially has indirect contact with the Arch Monolith to later have directly touched it.


Saren Arterius
-Incredibly famous and influential Turian Spectre.
-The youngest Turian ever accepted into the Spectres.
-Pro-Turian and very outspoken opponent of humanity.
-Has proximity to the Arch Monolith, although not shown to be indoctrinated.
-Indoctrination possibly initiated in either 2157 due to proximity to the Arch Monolith or in 2165 when in contact with the Artifact recovered from Edan Had’dah.

<2162>
Edan Had’dah
-Influential and incredibly wealthy Batarian aristocrat and entrepreneur.
-Like most Batarians is xenophobic and expressly anti-human.
-Subtly indoctrinated by an uncovered Reaper Artifact.
-Due to indoctrination he was obsessed with unlocking the artifacts secrets to the point of putting aside his hatred of humans to seek the help of Alliance scientist Dr.Shu Qian.

Dr. Shu Qian
-Alliance head scientist in-charge of developing and understanding AI.
-Indoctrinated by the Reaper Artifact uncovered by Had’dah.
-Indoctrination made him obsessed with unlocking it’s secrets.
-Obsession lead him to have all of his workers and staff murdered.

<2183>
Matriarch Benezia
-influential and powerful Asari Matriarch
-Believed that Asari should be the pinnacle of life in the galaxy.
-Tried to dissuade Saren from his destructive path only to be indoctrinated.
-Indoctrinated due to proximity and contact to Sovereign.
-Was able to protect part of her mind from being indoctrinated.

<2185>
Dr. Amanda Kenson
-Noted scientist form the university of Arcturus.
-Notable for discovering that mass relays pre-dated the Portheans.
-Kenson and her entire staff are Indoctrinated by Object Rho-Was dissuaded from destroying the Alpha relay due to indoctrination [despite being just a button push away]
-Tried everything in her power to stop Shepard from launching an asteroid into the Alpha Relay.
-Was possibly used to lure Shepard to Object Rho.

Commander Shepard
-First Human Spectre.
-Influential N7 marine and leader.
-Stopped rogue spectre Saren.-Instrumental in stoping Geth Heretics.
-Instrumental in stoping Reaper vanguard Sovereign.
-Neutralized the collector threat.
-Was resurrected-Spearhead of the Alliance.
-United the known galaxy against the Reapers
-Symbol of Hope, Triumph and Strength.
-Has been in contact with more Reapers and Reaper artifacts than all previously mentioned on the list. Including Artifacts, objects, bases and even derelict and living Reapers themselves.

[Salient Archer]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

Apparently there were some very vague hints from 2010 that for intensive purposses indicated Planet Aequitas from the ME2 galaxy map.

Planet Aequitas had an N7 mission in ME2 where Shepard had to go in and clear out Husks being created by a Reaper artifact that (s)he then had to destroy with explosives.

In ME3 Planet Aequitas is highlighted on the galaxy map as if it contains some kind of mission, but yet there's actually no way to interact with it.

Megumi has taken note that the order in which it appears on the galaxy map seems to shift backwards between the key priority missions during subsequent play throughs.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 21 mai 2012 - 02:43 .

[gpost]

Salient Archer wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

Apparently there were some very vague hints from 2010 that for intensive purposses indicated Planet Aequitas from the ME2 galaxy map.

Planet Aequitas had an N7 mission in ME2 where Shepard had to go in and clear out Husks being created by a Reaper artifact that (s)he then had to destroy with explosives.

In ME3 Planet Aequitas is highlighted on the galaxy map as if it contains some kind of mission, but yet there's actually no way to interact with it.

Megumi has taken note that the order in which it appears on the galaxy map seems to shift backwards between the key priority missions during subsequent play throughs.

It could be another DLC mission, and they accidentally included the code to highlight it . . . or it could be a glitch - who knows

[Rosewind]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

What on earth are you guys talking about?

[NoSpin]

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

What on earth are you guys talking about?

The planet Aequitas "blinks" at certain points during ME3 like there is some sort of mission on it. I'm personally leaning towards bug in the code, but I'm interested to see where they go with it.

[MegumiAzusa]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

[Chief Commander]

Lion Martinez wrote...

Wow, some great theorizing going on in this thread. I'm really enjoying it, it intrigues me. Keep it up

Who are you and what do you know? Quick! Someone trace his IP!

[gpost]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

even on my third playthrough it still tricks me for a second and I think there's a mission

[EpyonX3]

gpost wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

even on my third playthrough it still tricks me for a second and I think there's a mission

I think it's a glitch, they probably reused the galaxy map code from ME2 and forgot to take it out.

And before i get attacked, This DOES NOT make bioware lazy. Developers do this all the time and it's perfectly reasonable. It's just unrealistic for any game this complex to be bug free or contain 100% new code and assets.

[JasonSic]

EpyonX3 wrote...

gpost wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

even on my third playthrough it still tricks me for a second and I think there's a mission

I think it's a glitch, they probably reused the galaxy map code from ME2 and forgot to take it out.

And before i get attacked, This DOES NOT make bioware lazy. Developers do this all the time and it's perfectly reasonable. It's just unrealistic for any game this complex to be bug free or contain 100% new code and assets.

It DOES make them lazy. But as my teacher says, a good programmer is a lazy programmer.

Modifié par JasonSic, 21 mai 2012 - 03:23 .

[JasonSic]

Double post my bad.......

Modifié par JasonSic, 21 mai 2012 - 03:10 .

[JasonSic]

Triple post WTF am i doing??

Modifié par JasonSic, 21 mai 2012 - 03:11 .

[EpyonX3]

JasonSic wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

gpost wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

even on my third playthrough it still tricks me for a second and I think there's a mission

I think it's a glitch, they probably reused the galaxy map code from ME2 and forgot to take it out.

And before i get attacked, This DOES NOT make bioware lazy. Developers do this all the time and it's perfectly reasonable. It's just unrealistic for any game this complex to be bug free or contain 100% new code and assets.

It DOES make them lazy. But a good programmer would be a smart, yet lazy one.
At least that's whay my programming teacher tought me.

A smart programmer makes his code efficient, easy to read and reusable. A lazy programmer reuses code and doesn't bug check enough. These programmers make applications buggy and glitchy. Mass effect 3 runs very well on all fronts. There are some glitches yes but nonw of them break the game enough be major.

Seeing something like this doesn't hurt Bioware's image in my eyes. If there was a mission really there but it never worked then that would be a bigger problem.

[Rosewind]

Only noticed that planet once and never again, does it really unlock a secret mission or was that in ME 2?

[Rosewind]

JasonSic wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

gpost wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

even on my third playthrough it still tricks me for a second and I think there's a mission

I think it's a glitch, they probably reused the galaxy map code from ME2 and forgot to take it out.

And before i get attacked, This DOES NOT make bioware lazy. Developers do this all the time and it's perfectly reasonable. It's just unrealistic for any game this complex to be bug free or contain 100% new code and assets.

It DOES make them lazy. But as my teacher says, a good programmer is a lazy programmer.

HAHA My Engineering teacher said the same thing, also that they are bad spellers....

[EpyonX3]

Rosewind wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

gpost wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Fourth Playthrough: from Palaven to Tuchanka

Fifth Playthrough: Secret Aequitas mission unlocked.

What is thus Aequitas thing about? I've seen it mentioned but I haven't seen what the deal is.

It's marked like a mission but there is none. And as you can see from my list it does have a strange behavior.

even on my third playthrough it still tricks me for a second and I think there's a mission

I think it's a glitch, they probably reused the galaxy map code from ME2 and forgot to take it out.

And before i get attacked, This DOES NOT make bioware lazy. Developers do this all the time and it's perfectly reasonable. It's just unrealistic for any game this complex to be bug free or contain 100% new code and assets.

It DOES make them lazy. But as my teacher says, a good programmer is a lazy programmer.

HAHA My Engineering teacher said the same thing, also that they are bad spellers....

I'm guilty of that. Sometimes i re read my posts and notice a lot of errors.