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[paxxton]

monrapias wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Page 1492 - Columbus discovers America!

  Many many maaaany years after a viking discovered it.

Yup.

[EpyonX3]

monrapias wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Page 1492 - Columbus discovers America!

  Many many maaaany years after a viking discovered it.

On that note. I can't believe we still celebrate a man for an accomplishment he never achieved. It makes me fearful of what future generations will think about the people of our age.

[Tirian Thorn]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Id like a literalist's take on this question: Why does the catalyst, a several billion year old AI, come in the form of a child seen only by Shepard?

If the events inside the citadel were real, there would be absolutely no reason for the AI to appear as that child. The AI could have appeared in any form and still convinced Shepard it was an AI. After all, whose to say what this AI looks like?

The fact that this AI, who claims to be the collective intelligence of the reapers, appears as a boy Shepard saw, should raise a lot of suspicion. It's proof that the reapers are in Shepard's head, screwing with her thoughts.

^ this

Thank you. 

Either the reapers implanted the image of the kid or they got the image from Shepard's mind. 

But, however, it happened, they were inside his head poking around.  Why stop at just extraction?  Why not inception?  :-p 

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Well, actually when I think about it. Eezo decreases mass significantly so the collision wouldn't be as deadly.

Nothing can travel faster than light in RL, I'm afraid. At least not yet.

Apparently ME's writers disagree since they wrote that screw story (BTW I have dibs on "screw you" puns).

It's not a matter of opinion. Relativity Theory doesn't allow it. And scientists haven't come up with any way to overcome it yet.

yet....

I think I read somewhere that information "travels" in FTL between entangled particles.

[EpyonX3]

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Well, actually when I think about it. Eezo decreases mass significantly so the collision wouldn't be as deadly.

Nothing can travel faster than light in RL, I'm afraid. At least not yet.

Apparently ME's writers disagree since they wrote that screw story (BTW I have dibs on "screw you" puns).

It's not a matter of opinion. Relativity Theory doesn't allow it. And scientists haven't come up with any way to overcome it yet.

yet....

I think I read somewhere that information "travels" in FTL between entangled particles.

In the quantum world, speed doesn't exist.

[monrapias]

http://kotaku.com/59...f-mass-effect-3

Obviously a lot of spoilers.

But yeah. To you who still don't believe that shepard lives, bioware even called it "shepard lives ending" on a fourm post, and others have tweeted about how he survived.

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Well, actually when I think about it. Eezo decreases mass significantly so the collision wouldn't be as deadly.

Nothing can travel faster than light in RL, I'm afraid. At least not yet.

Apparently ME's writers disagree since they wrote that screw story (BTW I have dibs on "screw you" puns).

It's not a matter of opinion. Relativity Theory doesn't allow it. And scientists haven't come up with any way to overcome it yet.

yet....

I think I read somewhere that information "travels" in FTL between entangled particles.

In the quantum world, speed doesn't exist.

I meant that it was measured or estimated (in common-sense world ).

[UltimateTobi]

"Until now we all thought we knew. There's that final scene that isn't present in any of the other endings. The camera pans up to find shepard buried in the ruins of London, and then right before the scene ends - he gasps for air and the credits roll."

So Mr Oshry himself believes Shepard is still on Earth, or is it an official confirmed fact? ^^

(Thanks for the link monrapias.)

[monrapias]

EpyonX3 wrote...

monrapias wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Page 1492 - Columbus discovers America!

  Many many maaaany years after a viking discovered it.

On that note. I can't believe we still celebrate a man for an accomplishment he never achieved. It makes me fearful of what future generations will think about the people of our age.

Og God, they're going to find jessica black and justine bieber songs,  oh God!

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Well, actually when I think about it. Eezo decreases mass significantly so the collision wouldn't be as deadly.

Nothing can travel faster than light in RL, I'm afraid. At least not yet.

Apparently ME's writers disagree since they wrote that screw story (BTW I have dibs on "screw you" puns).

It's not a matter of opinion. Relativity Theory doesn't allow it. And scientists haven't come up with any way to overcome it yet.

Oh, it's possible. You just have to rethink a bit.

In 1994 some guy named Alcubierre published a paper where he proposed a 'drive' that could get from one point in spacetime to another one in a time (time measured by someone on earth and the traveler) that suggests that he traveled with FTL. What it does is bend spacetime in such a way that it moves the spaceship forward.

Obviously we aren't using that drive yet. And the problem is, that, as you might remember from all these models of spacetime as a flat table sheet, spacetime needs matter to be bend.

That matter must have negative mass. Such matter is only hypothetical and has not been obvserved, yet.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 02 juillet 2012 - 04:22 .

[TSA_383]

XanderLav wrote...

I don't know if it was addressed before, well actually I know it was. Anyway my point is why in the beginning of the game, kid doesn't make any noise in the vent when he disappears. I just started new playthrough and I know that lazy developers is not the answer, because they have vent sounds. Specifically the kid himself does make quite a lot of "vent" noise. And it attracts Shepard's attention.
Also anybody else thinks that the park you see kid playing with his toy, has textures from so called dream foliage?

It does, yes.

Rifneno wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anybody
know if in the ME universe, can a ship enter FTL while inside the
atmosphere? I don't mean to travel from city to city but from the
surface to space.

Even if they could, they wouldn't.  It
would be suicide.  At that speed any collision with anything would be
complete destruction.  And I don't mean anything substancial, I mean anything.
 There was mention of a disaster on CDN one time where a ship hit a
screw, just a plain old metal screw, at FTL.  No survivors.

Not to mention temperature.

Stagnation temperature typically follows roughly this model:


Don't know about at relativistic speeds though, but this is sci-fi, so let's run with it...

Using typical atmospheric gas constants and assuming a velocity of ~90% of the speed of light, we get a stagnation temperature (temperature due to pressure effects) of 46.656 Trillion (yes, trillion) degrees kelvin.
Roughly 500000 times hotter than the core of the sun.

And that is why nobody will ever travel at relativistic speeds within atmosphere

[masster blaster]

Hay have we all noticed that in Destroy Hackett does not mention Shepard at all or even reguard Shepard if he/she is alive and why does Joker not look sad in Destroy since if you got Joker and EDI togerther why no tears anything. Joker comes out of the Normandy all happy instead Joker should have been crying over Shepard and EDI as should the rest of the sqaud. Also where is Adams and docter Chakkwais at Shepard's memoerial and Gabbie and Dannile.

If Gabbie and Donnaly are on Earth then why does it show the crew after the slide show of rebuilding is over at Shepards memorial.

Also it does make you wonder if the Catalyst was telling the treu because if we picked Destroy should't we see Synthetics being created and the CYCLE starts all over again, and just because the Breath scene is after the Normandy does not mean Bioware ment Oh the reason why you love intreaset thinks Shepard is alive because of this. Breath scene and it razes the question on why is Shepard back on Earth icf he/she should be in the Citadel since

A) they know that Anderson's dead because they found his body on the Citadle but why not Shepard's and if they did find Andersons body on the Citadle then why does the Normandy crew now that Anderson is dead and not Shepard.

[monrapias]

UltimateTobi wrote...

"Until now we all thought we knew. There's that final scene that isn't present in any of the other endings. The camera pans up to find shepard buried in the ruins of London, and then right before the scene ends - he gasps for air and the credits roll."

So Mr Oshry himself believes Shepard is still on Earth, or is it an official confirmed fact? ^^

(Thanks for the link monrapias.)

If he actually is still in London (and bioware didn't make a typo there) then I'd really like to know how he survived if the IT isn't true.  perhaps the answer is space magic?

[UltimateTobi]

monrapias wrote...

UltimateTobi wrote...

"Until now we all thought we knew. There's that final scene that isn't present in any of the other endings. The camera pans up to find shepard buried in the ruins of London, and then right before the scene ends - he gasps for air and the credits roll."

So Mr Oshry himself believes Shepard is still on Earth, or is it an official confirmed fact? ^^

(Thanks for the link monrapias.)

If he actually is still in London (and bioware didn't make a typo there) then I'd really like to know how he survived if the IT isn't true.  perhaps the answer is space magic?

The answer to this question is IT for me. Otherwhise the descent to Earth can't be explained, not along with a living subject.

[Arian Dynas]

By the way, if that Bushido Effect fellow is around, someone inform him the entire crux of his argument is based around the statement of a moderator, who is NOT a Bioware employee or developer, is in fact, a volunteer, would have NO reason to have OR RELEASE inside information, and is based entirely off his method of having phrased it so.

The EC represents the definitive cut. This means nothing, other than "The EC is the ending we intended all along."

[UltimateTobi]

Arian Dynas wrote...

By the way, if that Bushido Effect fellow is around, someone inform him the entire crux of his argument is based around the statement of a moderator, who is NOT a Bioware employee or developer, is in fact, a volunteer, would have NO reason to have OR RELEASE inside information, and is based entirely off his method of having phrased it so.

The EC represents the definitive cut. This means nothing, other than "The EC is the ending we intended all along."

Which is the moderator's opinion I guess. So his opinion against ours. (If he even meant the sentence like it stands there. The "definitive" endings doesn't mean that what we see is true. Just that the endings won't get a massive change. Hence the endings are definite.)

[monrapias]

Look what I found

http://www.formspring.me/SpectreAshley

Oh and apperently someone, I don't know who, made twitter accounts to all the "mass effect ppl"

https://twitter.com/#!/johnshepardN7

Atleast now you have something to read on (unless you've seen it before) while we wait for more info.

[monrapias]

Arian Dynas wrote...

By the way, if that Bushido Effect fellow is around, someone inform him the entire crux of his argument is based around the statement of a moderator, who is NOT a Bioware employee or developer, is in fact, a volunteer, would have NO reason to have OR RELEASE inside information, and is based entirely off his method of having phrased it so.

The EC represents the definitive cut. This means nothing, other than "The EC is the ending we intended all along."

  Well as I said, there are bioware employee who have tweeted about the same thing, that it is shepard taking that final breath.

[masster blaster]

Arian I agree but we shoukd cut some of the new comers some slack instead of putting them down we should direct them to watch the videos on the front page, but if they have info on IT then we talk, but if they start dissing us on IT then don't get Angey at them but we talk to them in an orderly fashion maner, but if they keep it up then ignore them. But they should be intitled of their own opinion about IT it's jus that we have to explain it to them in a sincer way.

[Arian Dynas]

Well this is interesting.

Found this in an alternative IT thread. Tully Auckland saying it;

There are elements of Mass Effect 3 that are meant to have non-literal interpretations. The hope is that these things provide thought-provoking discussion about the themes of the story and the motivations of characters. As such, we would prefer not to comment on players’ interpretations of these elements, since it would ruin the enjoyment of such discussion by suggesting there is a single, concrete way of viewing them.

That said, this is the wrong board for such a topic (No spoilers allowed).

The IT thread can be found here: http://social.biowar.../index/12047832


Locked.

Funny. If he's supposed to be shooting down the idea, then why is he here endorsing it, hmm?

Original post here: 
http://social.biowar...6857/1#12919766 

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 02 juillet 2012 - 04:35 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Well, actually when I think about it. Eezo decreases mass significantly so the collision wouldn't be as deadly.

Nothing can travel faster than light in RL, I'm afraid. At least not yet.

Apparently ME's writers disagree since they wrote that screw story (BTW I have dibs on "screw you" puns).

It's not a matter of opinion. Relativity Theory doesn't allow it. And scientists haven't come up with any way to overcome it yet.

Oh, it's possible. You just have to rethink a bit.

In 1994 some guy named Alcubierre published a paper where he proposed a 'drive' that could get from one point in spacetime to another one in a time (time measured by someone on earth and the traveler) that suggests that he traveled with FTL. What it does is bend spacetime in such a way that it moves the spaceship forward.

Obviously we aren't using that drive yet. And the problem is, that, as you might remember from all these models of spacetime as a flat table sheet, spacetime needs matter to be bend.

That matter must have negative mass. Such matter is only hypothetical and has not been obvserved, yet.

A kind of warp drive. It could use virtual particles which pop in and out of existence everywhere.

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Well this is interesting.

Found this in an alternative IT thread. Tully Auckland saying it;

There are elements of Mass Effect 3 that are meant to have non-literal interpretations. The hope is that these things provide thought-provoking discussion about the themes of the story and the motivations of characters. As such, we would prefer not to comment on players’ interpretations of these elements, since it would ruin the enjoyment of such discussion by suggesting there is a single, concrete way of viewing them.

That said, this is the wrong board for such a topic (No spoilers allowed).

The IT thread can be found here: http://social.biowar.../index/12047832


Locked.

Funny. If he's supposed to be shooting down the idea, then why is he here endorsing it, hmm?

Ah, it's nice reading this. Makes me appreciate all the work that the IT community did, even more -- doing what has been intended to be done.

[monrapias]

http://imgur.com/r/masseffect/lXwSe

hehe


yes it is on topic.

[Arian Dynas]

Welp, if we're going to do what Bushido Effect did. IT is confirmed by this logic, there is non literal interpretations to be had, and we are meant to question the themes and motivations, despite Bioware not wanting to comment on them since it would ruin either ours or the literalists enjoyment if they made a concrete interpretation just yet.

See why you can't do that?

[masster blaster]

I like Tully even though he has Kia Leng as his profile picture. But any responce to what I have said on page 1493. Anyone.