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[HellishFiend]

HyperGlass wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

I edited my earlier post to include a link to Big Ben's chime:

Sorry but it plays a little tune before it goes into chiming the number of hours. The most epic tune a clock can make anyway. The rubble scene has what I think is just the end of that little tune.

I'm not sure why you think that's relevant, though. If it is Big Ben we're hearing, then it's obviously not working right since we only hear the one chime. It doesnt stand to reason that it would have to play its musical tune first if it isnt working right. 

[DJBare]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Okay there is definitely a pattern, just completed Rannoch and as I said the "signal" from Aequitas vanished.
That makes:
First playthrough: from Thessia to End
Second playthrough: from Rannoch to Thessia
Third playthrough: from Tuchanka to Rannoch

Just thought I'd pop this in here as regard to Aequitas, I decided to explore a bit before entering the mine, now I could be wrong, but we were never told the crew on the planet were Cerberus?

Here are the crew logs.

[HellishFiend]

DJBare wrote...

Just thought I'd pop this in here as regard to Aequitas, I decided to explore a bit before entering the mine, now I could be wrong, but we were never told the crew on the planet were Cerberus?

Nice find. The question is, were all the victims killed and turned into husks, or did some make it off-planet as ordinary indoctrinated reaper agents?

[HyperGlass]

HellishFiend wrote...

I'm not sure why you think that's relevant, though. If it is Big Ben we're hearing, then it's obviously not working right since we only hear the one chime. It doesnt stand to reason that it would have to play its musical tune first if it isnt working right. 

Yea I know the tune is irrelevent my bad. Still, to elaborate on hearing what we think is Big Ben and the surviving the Citadale blowing up; so Shepard just survived the Citadale, re-entry and wound covnivently back in London if that really is Big Ben. I don't buy that.
So atleast we now notice there is a bell of some kind playing.
Besides if London is involved you just have to have Big Ben playing at some point it's just epic.

[DJBare]

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Just thought I'd pop this in here as regard to Aequitas, I decided to explore a bit before entering the mine, now I could be wrong, but we were never told the crew on the planet were Cerberus?

Nice find. The question is, were all the victims killed and turned into husks, or did some make it off-planet as ordinary indoctrinated reaper agents?

What I'm wondering, is object rho the red herring while the alien device on Aequitas is the real meat.

[HellishFiend]

HyperGlass wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

I'm not sure why you think that's relevant, though. If it is Big Ben we're hearing, then it's obviously not working right since we only hear the one chime. It doesnt stand to reason that it would have to play its musical tune first if it isnt working right. 

Yea I know the tune is irrelevent my bad. Still, to elaborate on hearing what we think is Big Ben and the surviving the Citadale blowing up; so Shepard just survived the Citadale, re-entry and wound covnivently back in London if that really is Big Ben. I don't buy that.
So atleast we now notice there is a bell of some kind playing.
Besides if London is involved you just have to have Big Ben playing at some point it's just epic.

Yeah, I'm quite convinced it's a bell. So, well done on that find!  

On the falling from the Citadel bit though, at this point anyone that still believes that.... "well... "  /Salarian Councilor

[HellishFiend]

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Just thought I'd pop this in here as regard to Aequitas, I decided to explore a bit before entering the mine, now I could be wrong, but we were never told the crew on the planet were Cerberus?

Nice find. The question is, were all the victims killed and turned into husks, or did some make it off-planet as ordinary indoctrinated reaper agents?

What I'm wondering, is object rho the red herring while the alien device on Aequitas is the real meat.

Doubtful. The Aequitas device was an optional quest. I think the fact that it gets highlighted in 3 is just one of their subtle "could be a glitch" hints. 

[HellishFiend]

I should add, that most of the hints and clues that we've found are only picked up by those familiar with all the lore and/or optional content. It plays well with the theory that ME3 really has two endings: one that stands on its own for casual fans that arent interested in DLC, and the true ending for the hardcore fans that doesnt develop and play out until the DLC is released.

[spotlessvoid]

Question:
Was the dark energy leak part of the script leak, or separate?

[blooregard]

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Just thought I'd pop this in here as regard to Aequitas, I decided to explore a bit before entering the mine, now I could be wrong, but we were never told the crew on the planet were Cerberus?

Nice find. The question is, were all the victims killed and turned into husks, or did some make it off-planet as ordinary indoctrinated reaper agents?

What I'm wondering, is object rho the red herring while the alien device on Aequitas is the real meat.

Doubtful. The Aequitas device was an optional quest. I think the fact that it gets highlighted in 3 is just one of their subtle "could be a glitch" hints. 

Unlike object Rho the device on Aequitas is in the game by default. That being said I'm still pretty sure Arrival was intended to be canon since its release.

[HyperGlass]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Question:
Was the dark energy leak part of the script leak, or separate?

It was the leaked script and they alterered it producing the stuff we know today. So I hear.

[HellishFiend]

HyperGlass wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Question:
Was the dark energy leak part of the script leak, or separate?

It was the leaked script and they alterered it producing the stuff we know today. So I hear.

I really do think the leak was intentional. It's probably the red herring that the QR code clue was referring to. I mean, if the Bioware team was so careless as to leak the legit script for ME3, why wouldnt they have already leaked the script for EC as well? Why havent they leaked scripts at any other point in their game development careers? I think they're too tight knit of a family to make that kind of mistake. 

[spotlessvoid]

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Just thought I'd pop this in here as regard to Aequitas, I decided to explore a bit before entering the mine, now I could be wrong, but we were never told the crew on the planet were Cerberus?

Nice find. The question is, were all the victims killed and turned into husks, or did some make it off-planet as ordinary indoctrinated reaper agents?

What I'm wondering, is object rho the red herring while the alien device on Aequitas is the real meat.

Doubtful. The Aequitas device was an optional quest. I think the fact that it gets highlighted in 3 is just one of their subtle "could be a glitch" hints. 

Aequitas purpose aside, no way Rho is a red herring. Shepard knocked unconscious for 2 days by a Reaper artifact has to have some sort of indoctrination effect

[spotlessvoid]

HellishFiend wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Question:
Was the dark energy leak part of the script leak, or separate?

It was the leaked script and they alterered it producing the stuff we know today. So I hear.

I really do think the leak was intentional. It's probably the red herring that the QR code clue was referring to. I mean, if the Bioware team was so careless as to leak the legit script for ME3, why wouldnt they have already leaked the script for EC as well? Why havent they leaked scripts at any other point in their game development careers? I think they're too tight knit of a family to make that kind of mistake. 

I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

[HyperGlass]

HellishFiend wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Question:
Was the dark energy leak part of the script leak, or separate?

It was the leaked script and they alterered it producing the stuff we know today. So I hear.

I really do think the leak was intentional. It's probably the red herring that the QR code clue was referring to. I mean, if the Bioware team was so careless as to leak the legit script for ME3, why wouldnt they have already leaked the script for EC as well? Why havent they leaked scripts at any other point in their game development careers? I think they're too tight knit of a family to make that kind of mistake. 

It was Microsoft's fault for the leak but if I remember correctly Drew (the original writer) left mid-development to work on TOR. I never understood why as I haven't heard a reason. I really don't think this was all a set up because do you really think that if EA was pressing them, they would plan out all that just to salvage the ending? Or am I missing something?

[HellishFiend]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

A lie is usually not successful unless it has a lot of truth woven into it. 

[Atakuma]

spotlessvoid wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Question:
Was the dark energy leak part of the script leak, or separate?

It was the leaked script and they alterered it producing the stuff we know today. So I hear.

I really do think the leak was intentional. It's probably the red herring that the QR code clue was referring to. I mean, if the Bioware team was so careless as to leak the legit script for ME3, why wouldnt they have already leaked the script for EC as well? Why havent they leaked scripts at any other point in their game development careers? I think they're too tight knit of a family to make that kind of mistake. 

I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

Yes it was pretty much the same thing aside from a few alterations.

[HellishFiend]

HyperGlass wrote...


It was Microsoft's fault for the leak but if I remember correctly Drew (the original writer) left mid-development to work on TOR. I never understood why as I haven't heard a reason. I really don't think this was all a set up because do you really think that if EA was pressing them, they would plan out all that just to salvage the ending? Or am I missing something?

You're missing something. The word salvage has no place in this discussion, since the entire theory was that this was all planned from the start. The leaks, the red herring(s), the line in the final hours app that says the indoctrination gameplay element was scrapped, all of it intentional. 

Besides, someone with greater knowledge of Microsoft's DLC certification process asserted that there is almost no chance that the beta could have been released unintentionally. 

[HyperGlass]

spotlessvoid wrote...
 
I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

The Dholen (if that is right) situation was never resolved. Dark energy was Drew's original idea and judging by what is in ME3 no most of the stuff appears gone. Most of the stuff from his plot has been thrown into the plot hole.

[spotlessvoid]

HellishFiend wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

A lie is usually not successful unless it has a lot of truth woven into it. 

Granted, but I doubt a leak that enormous would be worth the trade off. Was it really that instrumental in fooling people? Most players reject IT without even thinking very much about the evidence. Why leak so much content when it isn't particularly necessary?

[HellishFiend]

HyperGlass wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...
 
I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

The Dholen (if that is right) situation was never resolved. Dark energy was Drew's original idea and judging by what is in ME3 no most of the stuff appears gone. Most of the stuff from his plot has been thrown into the plot hole.

Unless the "build-up" to the dark energy ending was the red herring that the QR code was referring to. 

[HyperGlass]

HellishFiend wrote...

You're missing something. The word salvage has no place in this discussion, since the entire theory was that this was all planned from the start. The leaks, the red herring(s), the line in the final hours app that says the indoctrination gameplay element was scrapped, all of it intentional.

Good God. Then when did EC begin development if it was a massive set up?

[HellishFiend]

spotlessvoid wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

A lie is usually not successful unless it has a lot of truth woven into it. 

Granted, but I doubt a leak that enormous would be worth the trade off. Was it really that instrumental in fooling people? Most players reject IT without even thinking very much about the evidence. Why leak so much content when it isn't particularly necessary?

Because the whole point of indoctrination is that it is one big mind**** to actually make someone's conscious thought process come to a totally different conclusion than they would otherwise. A conclusion that is exactly what the "indoctrinator" wants them to have. If Bioware truly wants to indoctrinate the playerbase, they would have to take some extreme measures to get people to draw the conclusion that they want, while still making it possible to overcome it if you try hard enough. 

[blooregard]

HyperGlass wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...
 
I avoided it at all cost, but didn't the leaked script contain a lot of the content still in the final version of the game?

The Dholen (if that is right) situation was never resolved. Dark energy was Drew's original idea and judging by what is in ME3 no most of the stuff appears gone. Most of the stuff from his plot has been thrown into the plot hole.

I'm going to hate myself for this but after reading one of the leaked scripts their (though still crappy) ending would have been much better (i.e. more description of the choices doesn't make them seem so iffy ect.)

[HellishFiend]

HyperGlass wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

You're missing something. The word salvage has no place in this discussion, since the entire theory was that this was all planned from the start. The leaks, the red herring(s), the line in the final hours app that says the indoctrination gameplay element was scrapped, all of it intentional.

Good God. Then when did EC begin development if it was a massive set up?

After the feedback started coming in. Since ME2, Bioware has always partially shaped the ME content based on player feedback. The false ending setup was a good way of getting people to come out and say "_____________ is what I wanted the ending to be like!". 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 21 mai 2012 - 07:22 .