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[shadowkinz]

masster blaster wrote...

Well the good news is is that Bioware stated that the Breath scene is Shepard and that they said that the Breath scene is on Earth.

So one can hope IT is real. But if not then They are going to have to explain HOW THE HELL DID SHEPARD GET SENT BACK TO EARTH.

got tossed back through the star trek beam lol..

i dunno this is a good sign but honestly, with how incoherent and stupid the original ending displayed BWs capacity for derping, it coulda just been a stupid oversight..

but what gives me hope is the fact that 90% of 3 whole games is written amazing.. 100s of hours and 5 years of just amazingness to just blow up in the last 20 minutes? it can't ****ing be....  something might be up..

Unless they outsourced the ending or something like dues ex:HR did with boss fights (this is true). Dues Ex: HR had another company do their boss fights xD

[shadowkinz]

Andromidius wrote...

Tasteful Understated Nerdrage: Extended Complaining (spoilers)



Watching now. Might not be IT related, but hey - its ending related!

Oh **** this guy has a new video?? lemme see if it's the same one..

[Nightingale]

Andromidius wrote...

Tasteful Understated Nerdrage: Extended Complaining (spoilers)



Watching now. Might not be IT related, but hey - its ending related!

I only made it to the turtle metaphor but...thanks for the link? I don't know, just sounds like more of the same to me. But I guess that's the point.

[boeloe]

XanderLav wrote...

Hey, Masster Blaster
I know this is crazy,
But what about grammar?
So, commas maybe?

Edit: just teasing you 

I see what you did there.

[shadowkinz]

DrTsoni wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Tasteful Understated Nerdrage: Extended Complaining (spoilers)



Watching now. Might not be IT related, but hey - its ending related!

I only made it to the turtle metaphor but...thanks for the link? I don't know, just sounds like more of the same to me. But I guess that's the point.

But he criticizes from a narrative standpoint .. explaining why the ending is ****ty.  he says how the story goes against its own narrative coherence and stuff

i already watched his 40 minute one.. this one was a quickie =P

Modifié par shadowkinz, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:48 .

[XanderLav]

I love ME series, I love ME 3 too. It's a hell of a emotional rollercoaster. I shed manly tears when mordin died and then: Thane, Legion and Miranda (didn't care much for Miranda though). I refuse to believe that BW dropped the ball so hard after making me cry over a fictional character.
"It has to be me, somebody else might have gotten it wrong."
It's really hard to make me depressed over a movie characters, only time it happens when animals are involved ( Can't stand movies where dogs save people with the cost of their own lives). But ME3, it really depressed me, after Mordin died I turned off my PS3 and had a smoke. He was one of my favorite characters. sad face.

Edit: Unless IT is true, then I shall forgive you BW.

Modifié par XanderLav, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:53 .

[XanderLav]

boeloe wrote...

XanderLav wrote...

Hey, Masster Blaster
I know this is crazy,
But what about grammar?
So, commas maybe?

Edit: just teasing you 

I see what you did there.

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I have a question why did my "slide show" only show Kasumi, Jacob, Samara, Grunt(he was mixed in with Wrex) and Zaeed. What about Jack and Miranda? Cant be because of there biotic implants because Kaidan was still alive.

I was wondering that too. I used the same file for the other three endings after Destroy (I got the same characters as you did with the addition of Jack with her students) and in the other endings I got Miranda but not Zaeed. Grunt was in Control but not Synthesis. And Kasumi was staring at the greybox, rather than with the hologram of Keiji in Control and Destroy but in Synthesis she was with the hologram despite destroying the memories in ME2. Not sure what's up with that, probably intentional and not a glitch, though. I may have had a few different characters, but nothing I remember off the top of my head.
Perhaps when Miranda really does leave like she said she would at the FOB in Destroy but has reason to stay with the Alliance in the other two endings. Or she was killed because she's technically not completely organic. Someone may be able to check if she's flagged as dead if they have a save file on PC. I can't do it myself, otherwise I would.
I'm not sure why you didn't see Jack, as I did. I don't think Kaidan has anything to do with it, his implants wouldn't get him killed and, because Ash survives and he's the other VS, I doubt they'd do that.

Edit: Fixed a spelling mistake and...I guess ignore what I said about Jack, since it's apparently a glitch.

Ya and also
Guys think about it if Synthesis is the final evolution then if
Shepard is being Indoctrinated and it"s funny because the Catalyst said
they tried this before ( Saren) but it did not work.
So the Catalyst
is impaling we don"t control you so nothing bad is going to happen but
what the player doesn't know is that we are being Indoctrinated and that
if we pick Synthesis everyone get"s indoctrinated.

But they use
Human DNA to sustain the tissue/genetic material and Reaper coding to broadcast their signal, in which case that"s why we don"t see anyone
fighting back the Reapers.
Because the Reapers are using their codes
to confuse the newly Synthesis races in order to make more Reapers by
using Human DNA to help increase their numbers again since the War with
the Protheans and this cycle have done a great deal of damage to the
Reaper race.

[Andromidius]

shadowkinz wrote...
But he criticizes from a narrative standpoint .. explaining why the ending is ****ty.  he says how the story goes against its own narrative coherence and stuff

i already watched his 40 minute one.. this one was a quickie =P

Odd how he brought up 'contrivance' as being a bad thing, but then never nailed the Normandy rescue scene with that label.  Because if one word can describe it, contrivance is that word.

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Well, according to the 100% literalist perspective, the crucible IS a giant battery. Now what it's for that's up to speculation...

...  I haven't had this strong an urge to make a joke that would get me banned since the first time I saw a cannibal.

makes sense since nobody know what it would do but if it is then this helps IT because nothing of that  happend if you pick Destroy and WAKE UP ad maybe the Leviathan can shed some light on some Reapes/ maybe and hope not Catalyst.

[Arian Dynas]

masster blaster wrote...

Dancing-Krogan wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Blaster, it might help if your posts actually had, y'know, sentences instead of blobs of words.

Ha!

Hay I get caught in the momunt when my brain is at work.

We can appreciate that.

Take my advice. Run your stuff through Word first.

[masster blaster]

Arian Dynas wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Dancing-Krogan wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Blaster, it might help if your posts actually had, y'know, sentences instead of blobs of words.

Ha!

Hay I get caught in the momunt when my brain is at work.

We can appreciate that.

Take my advice. Run your stuff through Word first.

kk.

[Arian Dynas]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

I think DrTsoni is right in saying that even Liara's character arc would have been unnaffected if Shepard was just injured and not killed outright.

Of course for the longest time I believe there was much confusion and divided opinion over whether Shepard was dead or just "mostly dead". That was put to rest in the Cronos station when they confirmed that, yes, Shepard was dead. It's amazing such huge differences and questions could arise between a character being dead and mostly dead.

Was it confirmed before ME3? Because if it wasn't then we should probably look historically at ME2 as Shepard having only been mostly dead instead of dead outright. That would shift the question to "What purpose was there to deading Shepard in ME3." Probably an easier question to tackle.

When is someone truly dead? Think about this seriously while I'm gone.

Do you want the medical definition?

If so, a person is well and truly considered dead by the medical institution when all brain activity, as well as all somatic activity, have ceased.

he's right and  Shepard's brain was still intact.

Shepard was definitely brain dead. Moreover, the brain intact bit was a suspension of disbelief, as no one's brain would survive in the vacuum of space after several minutes. The "helmet" comment made me chuckle.

As I personally have explained 3 or four times before now, the brain COULD be potentially physically intact in the best possible circumstances, though it would be dessicated, frozen and Shepard would CERTAINLY have suffered Hypoxic brain injuries prior to his fall.

Luckily, this is 200 years in the future, we're already working on medications to deal with hypoxic brain injuries which will surely be improved considerably by then, the planet itself was arctic levels of both cold and dry, both of which act as preservatives and counteract acidosis, and it's goddamn science fiction.

The helmet would not have been intact, but it WOULD have done exactly the two things it was supposed to, support the head and stop excess movement of the brain, avoiding concussions, much like how an egg can remain intact if dropped from a great height while encased in memory foam, and it would have ablated on impact, absorbing much of the shock. Still absolutely would have been more than enough to crack Shepard's skull like a walnut, but not enough to crush it like an egg.

[Big_Boss9]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

I think DrTsoni is right in saying that even Liara's character arc would have been unnaffected if Shepard was just injured and not killed outright.

Of course for the longest time I believe there was much confusion and divided opinion over whether Shepard was dead or just "mostly dead". That was put to rest in the Cronos station when they confirmed that, yes, Shepard was dead. It's amazing such huge differences and questions could arise between a character being dead and mostly dead.

Was it confirmed before ME3? Because if it wasn't then we should probably look historically at ME2 as Shepard having only been mostly dead instead of dead outright. That would shift the question to "What purpose was there to deading Shepard in ME3." Probably an easier question to tackle.

When is someone truly dead? Think about this seriously while I'm gone.

Do you want the medical definition?

If so, a person is well and truly considered dead by the medical institution when all brain activity, as well as all somatic activity, have ceased.

he's right and  Shepard's brain was still intact.

Shepard was definitely brain dead. Moreover, the brain intact bit was a suspension of disbelief, as no one's brain would survive in the vacuum of space after several minutes. The "helmet" comment made me chuckle.

As I personally have explained 3 or four times before now, the brain COULD be potentially physically intact in the best possible circumstances, though it would be dessicated, frozen and Shepard would CERTAINLY have suffered Hypoxic brain injuries prior to his fall.

Luckily, this is 200 years in the future, we're already working on medications to deal with hypoxic brain injuries which will surely be improved considerably by then, the planet itself was arctic levels of both cold and dry, both of which act as preservatives and counteract acidosis, and it's goddamn science fiction.

The helmet would not have been intact, but it WOULD have done exactly the two things it was supposed to, support the head and stop excess movement of the brain, avoiding concussions, much like how an egg can remain intact if dropped from a great height while encased in memory foam, and it would have ablated on impact, absorbing much of the shock. Still absolutely would have been more than enough to crack Shepard's skull like a walnut, but not enough to crush it like an egg.

Ebullism would've liquified his brain and rendered it destroyed within minutes. It's suspension of disbelief. Nothing more.

[HellishFiend]

Big_Boss9 wrote...


Ebullism would've liquified his brain and rendered it destroyed within minutes. It's suspension of disbelief. Nothing more.

Suspension of disbelief? In MY science fiction?

It's more likely than you think. 

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

So when will CleverNoob release the part three of IT?

[Arian Dynas]

masster blaster wrote...

.....ONE VOICE! AND THAT WAS KORGAN!

KORGAN!??!

Korgan Bloodaxe, Dwarven Berserker: Mazzy! I want ye te know, I've something long, hard and hanging low to the ground that you're free to touch and fondle as ye please. Don't scowl so girl, 'twas me axe I was talking about!

[Big_Boss9]

HellishFiend wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...


Ebullism would've liquified his brain and rendered it destroyed within minutes. It's suspension of disbelief. Nothing more.

Suspension of disbelief? In MY science fiction?

It's more likely than you think. 

As much as I appreciate your snark (I really don't), I was responding to his attempt at a serious explanation. *shrug*

[Leonia]

Maybe it was something simple.. Shepard's death in ME2 lead him to becoming the "perfect" organic. I don't know but if you focus too hard on the small things you forget about the initial questions you were trying to answer.

[Arian Dynas]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

I think DrTsoni is right in saying that even Liara's character arc would have been unnaffected if Shepard was just injured and not killed outright.

Of course for the longest time I believe there was much confusion and divided opinion over whether Shepard was dead or just "mostly dead". That was put to rest in the Cronos station when they confirmed that, yes, Shepard was dead. It's amazing such huge differences and questions could arise between a character being dead and mostly dead.

Was it confirmed before ME3? Because if it wasn't then we should probably look historically at ME2 as Shepard having only been mostly dead instead of dead outright. That would shift the question to "What purpose was there to deading Shepard in ME3." Probably an easier question to tackle.

When is someone truly dead? Think about this seriously while I'm gone.

Do you want the medical definition?

If so, a person is well and truly considered dead by the medical institution when all brain activity, as well as all somatic activity, have ceased.

he's right and  Shepard's brain was still intact.

Shepard was definitely brain dead. Moreover, the brain intact bit was a suspension of disbelief, as no one's brain would survive in the vacuum of space after several minutes. The "helmet" comment made me chuckle.

As I personally have explained 3 or four times before now, the brain COULD be potentially physically intact in the best possible circumstances, though it would be dessicated, frozen and Shepard would CERTAINLY have suffered Hypoxic brain injuries prior to his fall.

Luckily, this is 200 years in the future, we're already working on medications to deal with hypoxic brain injuries which will surely be improved considerably by then, the planet itself was arctic levels of both cold and dry, both of which act as preservatives and counteract acidosis, and it's goddamn science fiction.

The helmet would not have been intact, but it WOULD have done exactly the two things it was supposed to, support the head and stop excess movement of the brain, avoiding concussions, much like how an egg can remain intact if dropped from a great height while encased in memory foam, and it would have ablated on impact, absorbing much of the shock. Still absolutely would have been more than enough to crack Shepard's skull like a walnut, but not enough to crush it like an egg.

Ebullism would've liquified his brain and rendered it destroyed within minutes. It's suspension of disbelief. Nothing more.

Nope, any fluids in his system would have boiled from his veins in the vaccum beforehand, vaporizing and exiting through wounds, cuts, scrapes and other injuries sustained in the explosion.

Your move. 

[masster blaster]

Sorry meant to say Krogan but I sliped the two letters around.

[HellishFiend]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...


Ebullism would've liquified his brain and rendered it destroyed within minutes. It's suspension of disbelief. Nothing more.

Suspension of disbelief? In MY science fiction?

It's more likely than you think. 

As much as I appreciate your snark (I really don't), I was responding to his attempt at a serious explanation. *shrug*

Arian was pointing out a justifiable means of reaching acceptable levels of suspension of disbelief rather than exceeding them, not trying to "seriously explain" how the same thing could happen in real life. 

Same thing as providing a "serious explanation" for how Warp Drives work in Star Trek. The explanation uses real life concepts and puts them together in such a way that the technology does not exceed acceptable levels of suspension of disbelief. It's still not real, but the "explanation" provides your imagination a way of dealing with it so it doesnt ruin immersion every time you see it. 

[masster blaster]

Cut the pyrimad.

[Rosewind]

Arian!!! I need a hug

[Arian Dynas]

Don't misunderstand me, I am not saying anyone could survive this, indeed, even Shepard couldn't. BUT, assuming the best possible situation, there ARE ways within the realm of physics and anatomy (with the judicious application of future materials) for a human brain to survive RELATIVELY in one peice, frozen, yes, dessicated, yes, injured by oxygen deprivation and acidosis, yes, potentially even concussed and partially damaged, but still salvageable.

All I am saying is, it lies BELIEVEABLY within the realm of possibility.

EDIT: And we both forgot the blood brain barrier. Yes oxygen WOULD build up in Shepard's blood stream, but it would only form air emboli, cutting off bloodflow, starving it much like the exposure to vaccum would, blood, and thus air would never actually enter the brain, and for enough air bubbles to build up to actually crush or liquefy Shepard's brain would require more time actually entering the atmosphere than we are shown, and for obvious reasons, there would be no gases to cause Ebulism while in vaccum. After hitting the ground, it would be a moot point either way.

But someone correct me if I'm wrong, does the planet even HAVE an Oxygen-Nitrogen atmosphere? It may be denser, or it might be lighter. And as far as I could see, there was nothing even remotely hospitable to bacteria, which would retard decay even futher.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 03 juillet 2012 - 06:41 .