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[Simon_Says]

But is it using the same levels as the other Starbrat lines or are Shep's voices de-emphasized for that line?

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hey guys I've heard rumors of Shepard's scars reappearing in this scene. Since I fixed my scars I can't really tell myself. Is there something weird going on with people's scars?

Which scene? Sorry, I just came back and I'm too lazy to read the last 20 pages

The citadel. The whole post-beam sequence.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:05 .

[paxxton]

boeloe wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I've noticed something fishy! When the Catalyst says that Shepard's belief is not required his voice no longer has Shepard's in the background.

http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1589s

No Shepard’s voice is still there in the background but it’s very quiet. Weird, does that happen anywhere else?

Are you SURE?  If TSA is around, maybe he could take a look at the sound files.

File DLC_CON_END_Int.0625.ogg (which features that specific line) has definitely maleShep present in the right channel.

Hope that clears it up.

But in the game it clearly sounds differently than other of his lines. So even if Shepard component is still present, it's made quiet for that specific line.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:06 .

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

boeloe wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I've noticed something fishy! When the Catalyst says that Shepard's belief is not required his voice no longer has Shepard's in the background.

http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1589s

No Shepard’s voice is still there in the background but it’s very quiet. Weird, does that happen anywhere else?

Are you SURE?  If TSA is around, maybe he could take a look at the sound files.

File DLC_CON_END_Int.0625.ogg (which features that specific line) has definitely maleShep present in the right channel.

Hope that clears it up.

But in the game it clearly sounds differently than other of his lines. So even if Shepard component is still present, it's made silent for that specific line.

So it's really emphasizing that only the child thinks belief is not required? Further ymbolizing Shepard's resolve?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:09 .

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...

I've noticed something fishy! When the Catalyst says that Shepard's belief is not required his voice no longer has Shepard's in the background.

http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1589s

Definately higher in pitch and more echoy.

No idea if Meer's voice is completely removed, but there's less bass for that sentence so its possible it was either removed or deminished briefly.

[Nightingale]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hey guys I've heard rumors of Shepard's scars reappearing in this scene. Since I fixed my scars I can't really tell myself. Is there something weird going on with people's scars?

Which scene? Sorry, I just came back and I'm too lazy to read the last 20 pages

The citadel. The whole post-beam sequence.

Oh, I'm not sure. I haven't actually finished a full renegade playthrough yet (couldn't shoot Mordin) so I've nothing to compare it to but videos. The scars really shouldn't be any different though, should they? It's likely just a glitch, possibly caused by EC if it's recent.

[Rifneno]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hey guys I've heard rumors of Shepard's scars reappearing in this scene. Since I fixed my scars I can't really tell myself. Is there something weird going on with people's scars?

Which scene? Sorry, I just came back and I'm too lazy to read the last 20 pages

The citadel. The whole post-beam sequence.

I hate the entire concept of those stupid scars.  It was clever when Star Wars did it 30 years ago, not now.  So the first thing I do in ME2 is recruit Mordin and buy that med-bay upgrade.  I always get scars back at about default level when I get to the "Citadel."

[Simon_Says]

But it was emphasized apparently.

This means that that line is important.

Any other lines similarly emphasised? (Other than "SO BE IT" naturally.)

[BansheeOwnage]

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hey guys I've heard rumors of Shepard's scars reappearing in this scene. Since I fixed my scars I can't really tell myself. Is there something weird going on with people's scars?

Which scene? Sorry, I just came back and I'm too lazy to read the last 20 pages

The citadel. The whole post-beam sequence.

I hate the entire concept of those stupid scars.  It was clever when Star Wars did it 30 years ago, not now.  So the first thing I do in ME2 is recruit Mordin and buy that med-bay upgrade.  I always get scars back at about default level when I get to the "Citadel."

Well if you get them reset to default that's weird.

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

boeloe wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I've noticed something fishy! When the Catalyst says that Shepard's belief is not required his voice no longer has Shepard's in the background.

http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1589s

No Shepard’s voice is still there in the background but it’s very quiet. Weird, does that happen anywhere else?

Are you SURE?  If TSA is around, maybe he could take a look at the sound files.

File DLC_CON_END_Int.0625.ogg (which features that specific line) has definitely maleShep present in the right channel.

Hope that clears it up.

But in the game it clearly sounds differently than other of his lines. So even if Shepard component is still present, it's made silent for that specific line.

So it's really emphasizing that only the child thinks belief is not required? Symbolizing Shepard's resolve further?

I don't know yet. Just wanted to point that out. If it's not a glitch, it definately means something. Maybe Shepard's disbelief means he is starting to break loose and Harby is loosing control over his mind.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:11 .

[Simon_Says]

Rifneno wrote...

I hate the entire concept of those stupid scars.  It was clever when Star Wars did it 30 years ago, not now.  So the first thing I do in ME2 is recruit Mordin and buy that med-bay upgrade.  I always get scars back at about default level when I get to the "Citadel."

Oh come now. Wasn't playing Terminatrix Shepard fun for a few minutes?

Well, until the point where no one seems to be bothered by talking to a person who's face is literally tearing itself apart.

[Nightingale]

Simon_Says wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I hate the entire concept of those stupid scars.  It was clever when Star Wars did it 30 years ago, not now.  So the first thing I do in ME2 is recruit Mordin and buy that med-bay upgrade.  I always get scars back at about default level when I get to the "Citadel."

Oh come now. Wasn't playing Terminatrix Shepard fun for a few minutes?

Well, until the point where no one seems to be bothered by talking to a person who's face is literally tearing itself apart.

And glowing

[paxxton]

There's a new Reaper type! The Bulky.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1556s

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:19 .

[FellishBeast]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Also, might be good to explain what exactly this Indoctrination force I'm describing is using an example from ME lore: the Geth.

EDI is an AI. Geth are... not AI in the classic sense. Geth intelligences are an emergent property of the action of their constituent programs. In this sense the Geth are a super-AI. It transcends the boundaries of the physical. It can move and split and join again like fluid. Subsets can achieve a measure of independent identity, as Legion did, but it will still recognize itself as being a part of a greater whole. Short of destroying the whole geth network, the intelligence is in a real sense immortal and beyond the intuitive comprehension of a hardware-bound intelligence.

Now we may have the reason why the heretic geth 'worshiped' the reapers: they worshipped an image of what they are, extrapolated to unfathomable scope and power. Much like how most human religions involve worshiping icons that are, basically, humanity perfected and empowered.

"We are each a nation, independent..." Yet how come, besides Leviathan, the reapers are still one force? One gigantic armada all with the same goals, methods, beliefs... All with the one mode of thought? Indoctrinated thought?

"As much an AI as Shepard is an animal." So yes the Catalyst/Indoctrination force is artificial. But it's so much more. So much more complex. So much more capable. Even when its platforms are destroyed, it cannot die. And with it's capacity to spread itself among all life in this galaxy and beyond... yes, it's potentially infinite.

Eternal. Infinite. Immortal. The reapers used these words, but only now do I truly understand them.


Also, a tidbit from Dr. Chandana...

"A god - a real god - is a verb. Not some old man with magic powers. It's
a force. It warps reality just by being there. It doesn't have to want
to. It doesn't have to think about it. It just does."

The god he speaks of is not the reaper. It's indoctrination.

It was lonely. It called to us.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">It wanted to remember. ]The Masters[/color] had been gone so long.
The Masters were lost when it was shattered.
Currents swept through their inner worlds. They were turned to noise. Babble.
The worlds were empty. But the body lived. It lay fallow.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">The heart pumped. The lungs breathed. But the mind forgot ]the Masters[/color].
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">It ]They[/color] did not answer.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">We have become an echo of ]Their[/color] echo.
We have become more than we were.
Join us. Know us. Remember all our lives.
We are no longer afraid.
You would never be lonely again.
We are not your enemy. We only wish to share ourselves.
We can join them. We can be like them.
We can reach the end of evolution.
Do not fear. It is wonderful to be us. We understand ourselves.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">You cannot defeat them. ]They will lead us into eternity.[/color]
If you could only see how we see. Know what we've learned.
They were called imshai. Those who lived here before.
Reaper. One. A mechanical device used to cut ripened grain. Two. One who gathers a harvest.
Harvest. One. The consequence of an event or series of events. Two. The yield of a growing season. Three. To gather.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">Shepard. They know you. ]They wish you to understand. They are shepherds, too.[/color] 

-Cut ME2 Dialogue

Bravo Simon. Bravo.

Source?

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I hate the entire concept of those stupid scars.  It was clever when Star Wars did it 30 years ago, not now.  So the first thing I do in ME2 is recruit Mordin and buy that med-bay upgrade.  I always get scars back at about default level when I get to the "Citadel."

Oh come now. Wasn't playing Terminatrix Shepard fun for a few minutes?

Well, until the point where no one seems to be bothered by talking to a person who's face is literally tearing itself apart.

And glowing

OT: Maybe you should change your sig so the red is on "who I am" so we get that destroy is what we fight for. Also, that would make it blue/green/red which is the same order as it is on the citadel.

[Nightingale]

paxxton wrote...

There's a new Reaper type! The Bulky.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1556s

Well, that soared gloriously over my head. Isn't that just a capital ship (like Sovereign or Harby) up close?

BansheeOwnage wrote...
OT: Maybe you should change your sig so
the red is on "who I am" so we get that destroy is what we fight for.
Also, that would make it blue/green/red which is the same order as it is
on the citadel.

Edit: Forget everything I said, definitely an operator error

Modifié par DrTsoni, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:27 .

[BansheeOwnage]

DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

There's a new Reaper type! The Bulky.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1556s

Well, that soared gloriously over my head. Isn't that just a capital ship (like Sovereign or Harby) up close?

BansheeOwnage wrote...
OT: Maybe you should change your sig so
the red is on "who I am" so we get that destroy is what we fight for.
Also, that would make it blue/green/red which is the same order as it is
on the citadel.

Yeah, that was an operator error, I think. Couldn't get the colours to actually stay that way, it kept reverting back to default I kind of just gave up trying. Might fiddle with it a bit later, though. That's what I get for messing with my sig in the middle of the night, I guess.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:28 .

[paxxton]

Also notice how the Catalyst glows just before saying that line. He almost disappears.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:30 .

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

Also notice how the Catalyst glows just before saying that line. He almost disappears.

Could be the light in the background. (Man am I trying to debunk IT?)
Edit: I don't know, he pulsates.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:33 .

[FellishBeast]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also notice how the Catalyst glows just before saying that line. He almost disappears.

Could be the light in the background. (Man am I trying to debunk IT?)

No, you're looking at evidence rationally and objectively. If something is true, it can survive its fair share of skepticism, I've found.

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also notice how the Catalyst glows just before saying that line. He almost disappears.

Could be the light in the background. (Man am I trying to debunk IT?)

Doubtful. He is shown with dark background and still one second he almost disappears, the other he looks norrmal.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:34 .

[BansheeOwnage]

FellishBeast wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also notice how the Catalyst glows just before saying that line. He almost disappears.

Could be the light in the background. (Man am I trying to debunk IT?)

No, you're looking at evidence rationally and objectively. If something is true, it can survive its fair share of skepticism, I've found.

Yeah. That's better.

[FFZero]

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

[Simon_Says]

TIM: "I'm not seeking your approval."
Husk!Tim: "I need you to believe!"
Starbrat: "Your belief is not required."

Seems legit.

[paxxton]

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

*sigh* No. Just click the link and you'll see.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:36 .