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[BansheeOwnage]

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

Yeah, we really need to discuss older material to solidify our perspectives or find something new like Dead Coats™.

[BansheeOwnage]

Simon_Says wrote...

TIM: "I'm not seeking your approval."
Husk!Tim: "I need you to believe!"
Starbrat: "Your belief is not required."

Seems legit.

I thought that too. Thanks for making a funny out of it.

[Nightingale]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

Yeah, we really need to discuss older material to solidify our perspectives or find something new like Dead Coats™.

I've been meaning to ask about that. Is there a way to check if there's infrasound in the background of the trailer he was in? If so, did we find anything?

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

Yeah, we really need to discuss older material to solidify our perspectives or find something new like Dead Coats™.

But the change in the Catalyst's voice for a single line is there. This is fact. Consider what he says. Tries to shake Shepard's faith.

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

Yeah, we really need to discuss older material to solidify our perspectives or find something new like Dead Coats™.

But the change in the Catalyst's voice for a single line is there. This is fact. Consider what he says. Tries to shake Shepard's faith.

The line is very different. But the shininess of the kid is not solid evidence of anything IMO.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:42 .

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

TIM: "I'm not seeking your approval."
Husk!Tim: "I need you to believe!"
Starbrat: "Your belief is not required."

Seems legit.

I thought that too. Thanks for making a funny out of it.

No. The second has an opposite meaning to 1st and 3rd.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

TIM: "I'm not seeking your approval."
Husk!Tim: "I need you to believe!"
Starbrat: "Your belief is not required."

Seems legit.

I thought that too. Thanks for making a funny out of it.

No. The second has an opposite meaning to 1st and 3rd.

Thats his point, Paxxton.

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

TIM: "I'm not seeking your approval."
Husk!Tim: "I need you to believe!"
Starbrat: "Your belief is not required."

Seems legit.

I thought that too. Thanks for making a funny out of it.

No. The second has an opposite meaning to 1st and 3rd.

That's why it's funny. It's inconsistent.
Edit: Thanks Byne.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:43 .

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

Yeah, we really need to discuss older material to solidify our perspectives or find something new like Dead Coats™.

But the change in the Catalyst's voice for a single line is there. This is fact. Consider what he says. Tries to shake Shepard's faith.

The line is very different. But the shininess of the kid is not solid evidence of anything IMO.

But it is. Surely you can see it.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:43 .

[TJBartlemus]

Sup guys. Moving to Alaska and it is painful...driving all day. Anyway.

I was thinking today about the EC, and the Reapers stance on reaping makes no sense. In the first and second games all the Reapers would say (Harbinger and Sovereign) was that life was a mistake. All organics needed wiping out forever. And then in ME3 when you meet their leader which is supposed to be the collective of all of them+AI he claims that he is trying to save organics.

My thought is that he is lying to get Shepard onto his side so that Shepard makes a favorable choice towards the Reapers. If the child is telling the 100% truth then something is wrong in the writing. You can't change the antagonists motivation at the last moment. It's like changing Emperors stance in Star Wars from trying to control the galaxy to that he is trying to be everyone's friend. NO. It doesn't work like that. Totally removes the main motivation in the story. And that is what the starchild is trying to do. Make Shepard forget the reason he was there and make him his BFF forever.

[paxxton]

@byne @BansheeOwnage: OK. The question is why it has an opposite meaning story-wise?

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:53 .

[BansheeOwnage]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Sup guys. Moving to Alaska and it is painful...driving all day. Anyway.

I was thinking today about the EC, and the Reapers stance on reaping makes no sense. In the first and second games all the Reapers would say (Harbinger and Sovereign) was that life was a mistake. All organics needed wiping out forever. And then in ME3 when you meet their leader which is supposed to be the collective of all of them+AI he claims that he is trying to save organics.

My thought is that he is lying to get Shepard onto his side so that Shepard makes a favorable choice towards the Reapers. If the child is telling the 100% truth then something is wrong in the writing. You can't change the antagonists motivation at the last moment. It's like changing Emperors stance in Star Wars from trying to control the galaxy to that he is trying to be everyone's friend. NO. It doesn't work like that. Totally removes the main motivation in the story. And that is what the starchild is trying to do. Make Shepard forget the reason he was there and make him his BFF forever.

Well, it's clear from the first game the reapers don't want to eradicate organic life. But I wholeheartedly agree with the rest. Especially this part:

[FFZero]

paxxton wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

*sigh* No. Just click the link and you'll see.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

The Unreal engine can do some weird things with emissive maps, those being the texture maps that make parts of or entire models glow, especially when transparency is involved. I don't think we can really put that down as evidence. The kid's voice though is definitely interesting.

[paxxton]

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

*sigh* No. Just click the link and you'll see.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

The Unreal engine can do some weird things with emissive maps, those being the texture maps that make parts of or entire models glow, especially when transparency is involved. I don't think we can really put that down as evidence. The kid's voice though is definitely interesting.

Maybe, but definately it's worth remembering that it's there. In case it comes in handy in the future.

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Paxxton you’re really starting to sound like you’re grasping at emergency induction ports...

*sigh* No. Just click the link and you'll see.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

The Unreal engine can do some weird things with emissive maps, those being the texture maps that make parts of or entire models glow, especially when transparency is involved. I don't think we can really put that down as evidence. The kid's voice though is definitely interesting.

Maybe, but definately it's worth remembering that it's there. In case it comes in handy in the future.

Yes. There is no such thing as useless information.

[Andromidius]

The change in the voice is more important. The fade is linked to it, since it happens right beforehand.

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

The change in the voice is more important. The fade is linked to it, since it happens right beforehand.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say. Also, after that line Shepard has a strange facial expression. He probably thinks: OK, the Catalyst doesn't care whether I believe or not so maybe he has no hidden agenda in making me believe or not. He states facts.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:58 .

[Simon_Says]

paxxton wrote...

But it is. Surely you can see it.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Finally heard it. Problem to me is that the Catalyst maintains that higher voice for a couple lines after stating that belief is not required.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:58 .

[paxxton]

Empty void.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 01:03 .

[Auralius Carolus]

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

But it is. Surely you can see it.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Finally heard it. Problem to me is that the Catalyst maintains that higher voice for a couple lines after stating that belief is not required.

I don't believe you...

*yells at Shepard* YOUR BELIEF IS NOT REQUIRED!

Oh, okay. *calms down*


NEEDZ MOAR INFLUENZERSZ!

[paxxton]

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

But it is. Surely you can see it.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Finally heard it. Problem to me is that the Catalyst maintains that higher voice for a couple lines after stating that belief is not required.

He actually doesn't. Immediately after that line you can clearly hear the accompanying Shepard's VAs.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 01:02 .

[TJBartlemus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Sup guys. Moving to Alaska and it is painful...driving all day. Anyway.

I was thinking today about the EC, and the Reapers stance on reaping makes no sense. In the first and second games all the Reapers would say (Harbinger and Sovereign) was that life was a mistake. All organics needed wiping out forever. And then in ME3 when you meet their leader which is supposed to be the collective of all of them+AI he claims that he is trying to save organics.

My thought is that he is lying to get Shepard onto his side so that Shepard makes a favorable choice towards the Reapers. If the child is telling the 100% truth then something is wrong in the writing. You can't change the antagonists motivation at the last moment. It's like changing Emperors stance in Star Wars from trying to control the galaxy to that he is trying to be everyone's friend. NO. It doesn't work like that. Totally removes the main motivation in the story. And that is what the starchild is trying to do. Make Shepard forget the reason he was there and make him his BFF forever.

Well, it's clear from the first game the reapers don't want to eradicate organic life. But I wholeheartedly agree with the rest. Especially this part:

Yeah, uh huh. Sovereign totally supported organic life...<_<



Last time I checked extinction didn't = ascension = living eternally. Also he claims that the cycle can't be broken. Hmmm...but I did that in ME3?? 

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 04 juillet 2012 - 01:06 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

But it is. Surely you can see it.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Finally heard it. Problem to me is that the Catalyst maintains that higher voice for a couple lines after stating that belief is not required.

I don't believe you...

*yells at Shepard* YOUR BELIEF IS NOT REQUIRED!

Oh, okay. *calms down*


NEEDZ MOAR INFLUENZERSZ!

Why couldn't he have just told me my belief was not required when I got there. If I only knew that sooner it would have been so much easier to pick synthesis.

[Simon_Says]

paxxton wrote...

He actually doesn't. Immediately after that line you can clearly hear the accompanying Shepard's VAs.

You're... you're right actually.

Huh.

[Auralius Carolus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

But it is. Surely you can see it.
http://www.youtube.c...iK1D1tY#t=1582s

Finally heard it. Problem to me is that the Catalyst maintains that higher voice for a couple lines after stating that belief is not required.

I don't believe you...

*yells at Shepard* YOUR BELIEF IS NOT REQUIRED!

Oh, okay. *calms down*


NEEDZ MOAR INFLUENZERSZ!

Why couldn't he have just told me my belief was not required when I got there. If I only knew that sooner it would have been so much easier to pick synthesis.

Belief is not required, my tail. The star child wouldn't waste a word on you otherwise. Instead, in the EC, you can have a ten minute conversation with him. That sucker is trying to influence you; which way is not clear, but he defintely wants you to pick something besides Reject.