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#38526
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FreddyCast wrote...

Therefore, the "serve us" clue is not a valid evidence for the IT because it is only reaper noise, not actual words.
Is there a counter counter-argument to this? I'm just curious.


Eh, right now I think BioWare garbled the first word and pronounced the "us", just to screw with people's heads.  Everyone has heard something different, it seems. 

Serve us.  Save us.  Purge us. One of us.  Asparagus.

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again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!

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estebanus wrote...

again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!


There's a fair amount of text data in the EC---including dialogue---that seems intentionally planted by BioWare to suggest the next DLC, and it involved the Reapers. 

http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408 

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FreddyCast wrote...

I've heard that Harbinger saying "serve us" is a clue to the IT, reinforcing the idea that the Reapers want to indoctrinate Shepard.
However, I've also heard counter-arguments saying that Harbinger didn't really say "serve us" but instead is just reaper noise. They say that if Harbinger were to say "serve us" it would have to sound like Harbinger's voice but it doesn't sound like his voice. And Shepard has already talked with Harbinger in his Reaper-ship form in the Arrival DLC and the sound "serve us" doesn't sound like Harbinger at all. Also, Each reaper ship has its own clear and distinct voice, like the Reaper destroyer ship in Rannoch or when Shepard talked to the Reaper-ship Sovereign in ME 1.
Therefore, the "serve us" clue is not a valid evidence for the IT because it is only reaper noise, not actual words.
Is there a counter counter-argument to this? I'm just curious.

ITers being ITers, someone inevitibly came up with the idea that all the reapers are saying S̢̛͡͞È̡̕̕R̴̀V̡̧͠E̷͏̡ ̨͘U̶̡S̛̕͟.

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dreamgazer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!


There's a fair amount of text data in the EC---including dialogue---that seems intentionally planted by BioWare to suggest the next DLC, and it involved the Reapers. 

http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408 

:o 

OMG.

#38531
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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snip*


Hey, off topic, but I'm downloading the EC tracks right now Posted Image

Where can you download those?

Well BleedingUranium and I just download the youtube videos and convert them to mp3 using Realplayer. Here's the playlist:


As for the Leviathan dlc, here's a link to its files:
http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX
Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 02:09 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snip*


Hey, off topic, but I'm downloading the EC tracks right now Posted Image

Where can you download those?

Well BleedingUranium and I just download the youtube videos and convert them to mp3 using Realplayer. Here's the playlist:


As for the Leviathan dlc, here's a link to its files:
http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX
Posted Image

Thanks!

#38533
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snip*


Hey, off topic, but I'm downloading the EC tracks right now Posted Image

Where can you download those?

Well BleedingUranium and I just download the youtube videos and convert them to mp3 using Realplayer. Here's the playlist:


As for the Leviathan dlc, here's a link to its files:
http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX
Posted Image

Isn't Convergence similar to the Catalyst Extended?

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 02:13 .


#38534
BansheeOwnage

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snip*


Hey, off topic, but I'm downloading the EC tracks right now Posted Image

Where can you download those?

Well BleedingUranium and I just download the youtube videos and convert them to mp3 using Realplayer. Here's the playlist:


As for the Leviathan dlc, here's a link to its files:
http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX
Posted Image

Thanks!

And the guy whose playlist it's on is "N7infiltrait0r" Legion's gamertag! Posted ImagePosted Image

#38535
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estebanus wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!


There's a fair amount of text data in the EC---including dialogue---that seems intentionally planted by BioWare to suggest the next DLC, and it involved the Reapers. 

http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408 

:o 

OMG.


You guys must have been sleeping if you missed this.

Anyway, I will remind everyone that these "revelations" can go either way. Imagine a whole DLC expanding upon "saving us from conflict with the synthetics"!

Official Lore uses "Dumb down and devillainize" on The Reapers! Is super effective!

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dreamgazer wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Therefore, the "serve us" clue is not a valid evidence for the IT because it is only reaper noise, not actual words.
Is there a counter counter-argument to this? I'm just curious.


Eh, right now I think BioWare garbled the first word and pronounced the "us", just to screw with people's heads.  Everyone has heard something different, it seems. 

Serve us.  Save us.  Purge us. One of us.  Asparagus.


It's obviously Nihlus and a hint that we'll learn more about Marauder Shields.

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Still we haven't gotten any ending in which the Reapers win. In Rejection Shepard somewhat allows them to win by making a choice.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 02:17 .


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Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!


There's a fair amount of text data in the EC---including dialogue---that seems intentionally planted by BioWare to suggest the next DLC, and it involved the Reapers. 

http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408 

:o 

OMG.


You guys must have been sleeping if you missed this.

Anyway, I will remind everyone that these "revelations" can go either way. Imagine a whole DLC expanding upon "saving us from conflict with the synthetics"!

Official Lore uses "Dumb down and devillainize" on The Reapers! Is super effective!

Although this is a possiblity, it will strengthen IT. Guaranteed. Because is destroys control as an option and looks like it may shed light on breaking indoctrination.

#38539
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paxxton wrote...

Still we haven't gotten any ending in which the Reapers win. In Rejection Shepard somewhat allows them to win by making a choice.

No the reapers don't win but they win the battle for Earth which is, unfortunately what was promised.Posted ImageThis strengthens my belief that EC was done (or almost) at launch. Refuse was always planned maybe?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 02:19 .


#38540
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Auralius Carolus wrote...

Official Lore uses "Dumb down and devillainize" on The Reapers! Is super effective!

Simon uses "Wild Speculation"!

Reapers restored to full Villainy and Mystery points?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Although this is a possiblity, it will strengthen IT. Guaranteed. Because is destroys control as an option and looks like it may shed light on breaking indoctrination.


But the risk, man! Trusting a Reaper is just crazy IMO.

You know that thing is going to turn on you when it realizes you've got a tool designed to effect ALL Reapers, even if it were to be trusted before hand.

The Krogan? Probably gonna be a problem if you cure the genophage, sometime downt he road. Rachni? Maybe. The Geth? Probably as well. BUT A REAPER???? How long will it take being "friendly" with it until you realize it's turned half of your forces on you?

#38542
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leonia42 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Therefore, the "serve us" clue is not a valid evidence for the IT because it is only reaper noise, not actual words.
Is there a counter counter-argument to this? I'm just curious.


Eh, right now I think BioWare garbled the first word and pronounced the "us", just to screw with people's heads.  Everyone has heard something different, it seems. 

Serve us.  Save us.  Purge us. One of us.  Asparagus.


It's obviously Nihlus and a hint that we'll learn more about Marauder Shields.


1500k is good.

#38543
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Still we haven't gotten any ending in which the Reapers win. In Rejection Shepard somewhat allows them to win by making a choice.

No the reapers don't win but they win the battle for Earth which is, unfortunately what was promised.Posted ImageThis strengthens my belief that EC was done (or almost) at launch. Refuse was always planned maybe?

I though when Casey Hudson said the Reapers could win it meant they win the war not a single battle. I repeat that it was in Shepard's power to grant them the victory, it wasn't that they earned it (it's only implied by Liara's VI, not shown). Anyway, in that case there should be cutscenes showing their victory.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juillet 2012 - 02:30 .


#38544
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!


There's a fair amount of text data in the EC---including dialogue---that seems intentionally planted by BioWare to suggest the next DLC, and it involved the Reapers. 

http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408 

:o 

OMG.


You guys must have been sleeping if you missed this.

Anyway, I will remind everyone that these "revelations" can go either way. Imagine a whole DLC expanding upon "saving us from conflict with the synthetics"!

Official Lore uses "Dumb down and devillainize" on The Reapers! Is super effective!

Although this is a possiblity, it will strengthen IT. Guaranteed. Because is destroys control as an option and looks like it may shed light on breaking indoctrination.


Hopefully Leviathan will also shed light on the effects/repurcusions of synthesis, because if it is one of the first reapers, that's exactly what the catalyst did to whichever species Leviathan belonged to. I think that DLC will give us ITers answers one way or the other, and hopefully give us a canon ending that they can make sequels from, because the idea of prequels after ME3 fills me with unhappy feelings.

#38545
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Auralius Carolus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Although this is a possiblity, it will strengthen IT. Guaranteed. Because is destroys control as an option and looks like it may shed light on breaking indoctrination.


But the risk, man! Trusting a Reaper is just crazy IMO.

You know that thing is going to turn on you when it realizes you've got a tool designed to effect ALL Reapers, even if it were to be trusted before hand.

The Krogan? Probably gonna be a problem if you cure the genophage, sometime downt he road. Rachni? Maybe. The Geth? Probably as well. BUT A REAPER???? How long will it take being "friendly" with it until you realize it's turned half of your forces on you?

We'll see after meeting it.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 02:26 .


#38546
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Big_Boss9 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Therefore, the "serve us" clue is not a valid evidence for the IT because it is only reaper noise, not actual words.
Is there a counter counter-argument to this? I'm just curious.


Eh, right now I think BioWare garbled the first word and pronounced the "us", just to screw with people's heads.  Everyone has heard something different, it seems. 

Serve us.  Save us.  Purge us. One of us.  Asparagus.


It's obviously Nihlus and a hint that we'll learn more about Marauder Shields.


1500k is good.

Your captain will be pleased.

#38547
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paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Still we haven't gotten any ending in which the Reapers win. In Rejection Shepard somewhat allows them to win by making a choice.

No the reapers don't win but they win the battle for Earth which is, unfortunately what was promised.Posted ImageThis strengthens my belief that EC was done (or almost) at launch. Refuse was always planned maybe?

I though when Casey Hudson said the Reapers could win it meant they win the war not a single battle. Anyway, in that case there should be cutscenes showing their victory.

+1000000000000

#38548
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snip*


Hey, off topic, but I'm downloading the EC tracks right now Posted Image

Where can you download those?

Well BleedingUranium and I just download the youtube videos and convert them to mp3 using Realplayer. Here's the playlist:


As for the Leviathan dlc, here's a link to its files:
http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX
Posted Image


This is completely off topic as well, but does anybody know where I can find the song that plays in the background at the London FOB whilst Shep is wandering around and saying his goodbyes?

#38549
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invetro wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

again, what is this "Leviathan DLC" I've been hearing about?

If I missed it, I'm sorry. This is the first real opportunity for me to log on here in days, so I've probably missed it!


There's a fair amount of text data in the EC---including dialogue---that seems intentionally planted by BioWare to suggest the next DLC, and it involved the Reapers. 

http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408 

:o 

OMG.


You guys must have been sleeping if you missed this.

Anyway, I will remind everyone that these "revelations" can go either way. Imagine a whole DLC expanding upon "saving us from conflict with the synthetics"!

Official Lore uses "Dumb down and devillainize" on The Reapers! Is super effective!

Although this is a possiblity, it will strengthen IT. Guaranteed. Because is destroys control as an option and looks like it may shed light on breaking indoctrination.


Hopefully Leviathan will also shed light on the effects/repurcusions of synthesis, because if it is one of the first reapers, that's exactly what the catalyst did to whichever species Leviathan belonged to. I think that DLC will give us ITers answers one way or the other, and hopefully give us a canon ending that they can make sequels from, because the idea of prequels after ME3 fills me with unhappy feelings.

You mean reapercussions? I'm asari you don't geth it.

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invetro wrote...

Hopefully Leviathan will also shed light on the effects/repurcusions of synthesis, because if it is one of the first reapers, that's exactly what the catalyst did to whichever species Leviathan belonged to. I think that DLC will give us ITers answers one way or the other, and hopefully give us a canon ending that they can make sequels from, because the idea of prequels after ME3 fills me with unhappy feelings.


Maybe, but the thing still doesn't appear friendly or trustworthy, from the dialogue.