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[Rosewind]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Sort of off topic but space related did you all hear about the Hadron Collider proving that Higgs Boson exists.

They didn't prove it 100% yet. But they are really close.

They said it was a 99.99999% chance it wasn't a statical fluke

[Galbrant]

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o


EDIT: I don't know if you can still trigger it by shooting the catalyst, both of my Shepards have too much EMS. So I can't check.

Modifié par Galbrant, 04 juillet 2012 - 11:12 .

[v0rt3x22]

Rosewind wrote...

Sort of off topic but space related did you all hear about the Hadron Collider proving that Higgs Boson exists.

Yea its proof of IT 

[Rosewind]

Galbrant wrote...

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o

Intresting *pats chin* Why would that be though.....

[Rosewind]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Sort of off topic but space related did you all hear about the Hadron Collider proving that Higgs Boson exists.

Yea its proof of IT 

No it's proof that we can build FTL Drives

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o

Intresting *pats chin* Why would that be though.....

It's quite clear why, you used all of the fleet you could gather and most of that is already destroyed. Shepard knows that if she doesn't act at that point they will all die for nothing simply because they don't have any chance. With higher EMS there is still hope.

[Rosewind]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o

Intresting *pats chin* Why would that be though.....

It's quite clear why, you used all of the fleet you could gather and most of that is already destroyed. Shepard knows that if she doesn't act at that point they will all die for nothing simply because they don't have any chance. With higher EMS there is still hope.

Oh way to burst my bubble I was speculating *takes of monocle*

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o

Intresting *pats chin* Why would that be though.....

It's quite clear why, you used all of the fleet you could gather and most of that is already destroyed. Shepard knows that if she doesn't act at that point they will all die for nothing simply because they don't have any chance. With higher EMS there is still hope.

Oh way to burst my bubble I was speculating *takes of monocle*

At your service *bows*

[Galbrant]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o

Intresting *pats chin* Why would that be though.....

It's quite clear why, you used all of the fleet you could gather and most of that is already destroyed. Shepard knows that if she doesn't act at that point they will all die for nothing simply because they don't have any chance. With higher EMS there is still hope.

Oh way to burst my bubble I was speculating *takes of monocle*

At your service *bows*

*flips over a table and throws it out of the window*

I'm done.

[niravital]

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

I would like to repost this issue again.
I've heard that Harbinger saying "serve us" is a clue to the IT, reinforcing the idea that the Reapers want to indoctrinate Shepard.
However, I've also heard counter-arguments saying that Harbinger didn't really say "serve us" but instead is just reaper noise. They say that if Harbinger were to say "serve us" it would have to sound like Harbinger's voice but it doesn't sound like his voice. And Shepard has already talked with Harbinger in his Reaper-ship form in the Arrival DLC and the sound "serve us" doesn't sound like Harbinger at all. Also, Each reaper ship has its own clear and distinct voice, like the Reaper destroyer ship in Rannoch or when Shepard talked to the Reaper-ship Sovereign in ME 1.
Therefore, the "serve us" clue is not a valid evidence for the IT because it is only reaper noise, not actual words.
Is there a counter counter-argument to this? I'm just curious.

Well, I personally liked that one implication that it was "Shepard!" distorted and reversed, that Harbinger is adressing his enemy in the Reaper language, which we can only partially understand at this point due to us being only partially indoctrinated.

Oo I like that one. Kinda falls in line with the Mauraders seemingly saying "Shepard" as they die. Besides, if he was saying something understandable I like to think Bioware would've put his voice actor on it.

You should. It was your idea.

lol

[Rosewind]

HAHAHA!!

[Rifneno]

TJBartlemus wrote...

They won't. Speculation=hype=money. They will not cater to one side because it will anger the other side. Safer to please both.

Why do people keep saying this! Is there a shred of proof to back it up? Even one marketing study? Because I see tons of pissed off literalists whose ending is still retarded and tons of pissed off IT'ers who still don't have an ending at all. There's a few more AtlasMickeys but by and large EC was considered a waste of time and bandwidth because it straddled the fence.

Makrys wrote...

I just had an idea... what if (this is insanely dumb I know) they announce at SDCC that there is hidden content in the EC and then tell everyone to go home and play it again, because they have now unlocked 'something'.

So everyone downloads an 'update' which unlocks the new content, and then we all play the EC again to find the true ending. Shepard gets up and the real ending carries forth.

Would explain why the EC is such a large file size.

And yes, I know I'm crazy. At this point though, I don't care.

Unfortunately impossible. The file size of EC has been mostly accouned for in FMV. I have no Earthly idea how they managed to waste that much space in the FMV, but they did. I can only assume that when we're shown slides, instead of being actual slides they're FMV of a still picture. Which would be mindblowingly, jawdroppingly, soulcrushingly stupid... but not as stupid as synthesis, so it's still out there.

Rosewind wrote...

Maybe the Leviathan of Dis? Oh wait didn't that one get swallowed by a sun or something, and was dead.

No, you're thinking of the unnamed derelict Reaper that we (our Shepards) dropped into that brown dwarf in ME2. Leviathan of Dis was an "ancient organic dreadnought" discovered in the Dis system. Salarians dated it at around a billion, yes billion with a b, years old. Then it up and vanished after the batarians were there and they don't know anything about it. Karma's a **** though because it indoctrinated their scientists and they turned off or reversed a lot of Khar'Shan's defenses when the Reapers hit. That makes me wonder if the Leviathan of Dis is the same Leviathan. If LoD was a renegade Reaper, why would it indoctrinate batarians to help the main Reaper force?

Although I also wonder about the name. "Leviathan" is an interesting choice. Leviathan of legend is the greatest and most immense sea creature/monster to ever exist. For comparison's sake, the blue whale is the largest animal we know to have existed. Yes, including the dinosaurs. A few sauropods might've gotten close but they made T Rex look like a toy poodle. So Leviathan is a mountain of an aquatic monster. With me so far? What are Reapers inspired by? Cthulhu of course. And where does dead Cthulhu wait dreaming? In the underwater city of R'lyeh.

The inspirations for these two Mass Effect entities suggest that we may be about to see a monster-on-monster battle that would send Godzilla screaming like a little schoolgirl.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Harbinger is confirmed to be the first reaper in the leaked DLC. Come on we all new it anyway!

Because Starbinger has been so honest with us in the past. Or something.

TJBartlemus wrote...

In the thread for the Leviathan DLC, link a few pages ago, there is dialog that connects Leviathan of Dis to "Leviathan". The connector is a line between Shepard and Jordam Bau about how Jordam knew from "his sources". (http://social.biowar...7408/1#12777408)

Since there's no other references to the Leviathan DLC there, even with Balak, my guess is that his source is exactly that: Balak. I don't know how long Jordam Bau waits (i.e. if he's there after the Cerberus attack which is when Balak shows up) but even if it's impossible to do Balak's assignment first, that doesn't mean they had decided the timing of events when writing dialogue. If you edit Legion into your ME2 save early on, he's got dialogue on first-half missions like Garrus, Mordin, Grunt, and Jack's recruitments. Because when they wrote the dialogue they hadn't yet decided he'd only join near the end.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I consider From Ashes to be a collector's edition bonus like the N7 hoodie or w/e.

Makes sense. I bought the Collector's Edition and got a Collector.

Andromidius wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Too bad nobody else was on the ground with Shepard to confirm or deny it was telepathic.. which brings up an interesting notion: can everyone communicate with a Reaper like that or just Shepard?

Tali and Legion were both nearby. Both said nothing at all in regards to that (extremely loud) conversation.

Oh, and I expect Shepard was actually talking.

I always found it highly suspicious for that reason. The Reaper is prattling on about whether synthetic and organic life can co-exist, and Legion and Tali have nothing to say about that topic? That's either terrible writing or a clue that they didn't hear the Reaper.

TSA_383 wrote...

You were also asking why I thought it was thinking differently now that control was severed?

How many other reapers have we come across that are beset by feelings of loneliness?

Nazara was a Twilight junkie.

[Galbrant]

Though I would still like to see if you can trigger rejection by shooting the catalyst with Low EMS.

Modifié par Galbrant, 04 juillet 2012 - 11:28 .

[Humakt83]

Galbrant wrote...

Though I would still like to see if you can trigger rejection by shooting the catalyst with Low EMS.

You can:

Modifié par Humakt83, 04 juillet 2012 - 11:46 .

[Galbrant]

Humakt83 wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

Though I would still like to see if you can trigger rejection by shooting the catalyst with Low EMS.

You can:

Thank you, O_o hmmm... 

[Rifneno]

Can't blame the kid for high tailing it at the first sign of gunfire. Look what happened to Sovereign when Shepard did it to his avatar, Skeletor-Saren.

[Arian Dynas]

Rosewind wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Sort of off topic but space related did you all hear about the Hadron Collider proving that Higgs Boson exists.

Yea its proof of IT 

No it's proof that we can build FTL Drives

Mind explaining the significance of the Higgs Field for those of us not in the know?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Rifneno wrote...

Can't blame the kid for high tailing it at the first sign of gunfire. Look what happened to Sovereign when Shepard did it to his avatar, Skeletor-Saren.

A bug which according to the Codex the Reapers have fixed by ME3.

[MegumiAzusa]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Can't blame the kid for high tailing it at the first sign of gunfire. Look what happened to Sovereign when Shepard did it to his avatar, Skeletor-Saren.

A bug which according to the Codex the Reapers have fixed by ME3.

Ah, yes. "The Codex". A device that allegedly has all the answers and speaks the truth. We have dismissed that claim.

[Fingertrip]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Sort of off topic but space related did you all hear about the Hadron Collider proving that Higgs Boson exists.

Yea its proof of IT 

No it's proof that we can build FTL Drives

Mind explaining the significance of the Higgs Field for those of us not in the know?

Questions about our origin and all jiffy can be maybe be discovered. 

[lex0r11]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

I don't know if this is 100% true but if you have Low EMS you can't choose refusal option.

http://youtu.be/HIiHLyyIjuo?t=27m17s

It looks like you have to choose destroy or control.

O_o

Intresting *pats chin* Why would that be though.....

It's quite clear why, you used all of the fleet you could gather and most of that is already destroyed. Shepard knows that if she doesn't act at that point they will all die for nothing simply because they don't have any chance. With higher EMS there is still hope.

Oh way to burst my bubble I was speculating *takes of monocle*

At your service *bows*

Hear, hear.

Modifié par lex0r11, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:43 .

[Andromidius]

Galbrant wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

Though I would still like to see if you can trigger rejection by shooting the catalyst with Low EMS.

You can:

Thank you, O_o hmmm... 

How about with dialogue?

Would be interesting if not, and you had to shoot it to get Refuse.

[Rifneno]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Can't blame the kid for high tailing it at the first sign of gunfire. Look what happened to Sovereign when Shepard did it to his avatar, Skeletor-Saren.

A bug which according to the Codex the Reapers have fixed by ME3.

I don't believe it has been.  I know the codex says it, but I very seriously doubt that in all the cycles the Reapers never realized that design flaw and never had one of them lose an avatar in combat to find out the hard way.  It's just that Sovereign was desperate and he couldn't simply release control of the situation he was in.  Note that right before the explosion takes out the collector general, Harbinger says "I am releasing control." and his hologram disappears.  I believe the writers even confirmed at one point that the reason Harbinger released control was that he'd get knocked offline like Sovereign when the collector general died if he didn't.  Don't have a link to it though, so all I can give is my word that I saw it.  Wouldn't be offended if that wasn't enough, definitely wouldn't be offended if the writer's word wasn't enough, because I still can't over "yeah, Reapers win is just the critical mission failure screen.  u mad?"

[Eryri]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Sort of off topic but space related did you all hear about the Hadron Collider proving that Higgs Boson exists.

Yea its proof of IT 

No it's proof that we can build FTL Drives

Mind explaining the significance of the Higgs Field for those of us not in the know?

From what I've gleaned from BBC science documentaries, the Higgs field is supposed to permeate all space and causes the phenomena we know as mass and inertia when it couples to matter particles, via the Higg's boson as an intermediary. The field acts as a kind of viscous fluid that drags on matter, producing inertia and preventing anything with mass from ever accelerating to the speed of light - the speed limit of the universe.

Massless particles such as photons are unable to couple to the Higg's field, and thus can travel at the speed of light.

Modifié par Eryri, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:48 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Rifneno wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Can't blame the kid for high tailing it at the first sign of gunfire. Look what happened to Sovereign when Shepard did it to his avatar, Skeletor-Saren.

A bug which according to the Codex the Reapers have fixed by ME3.

I don't believe it has been.  I know the codex says it, but I very seriously doubt that in all the cycles the Reapers never realized that design flaw and never had one of them lose an avatar in combat to find out the hard way.  It's just that Sovereign was desperate and he couldn't simply release control of the situation he was in.  Note that right before the explosion takes out the collector general, Harbinger says "I am releasing control." and his hologram disappears.  I believe the writers even confirmed at one point that the reason Harbinger released control was that he'd get knocked offline like Sovereign when the collector general died if he didn't.  Don't have a link to it though, so all I can give is my word that I saw it.  Wouldn't be offended if that wasn't enough, definitely wouldn't be offended if the writer's word wasn't enough, because I still can't over "yeah, Reapers win is just the critical mission failure screen.  u mad?"

Wouldnt Harbinger then have been knocked offline every time we destroyed the Collector he was controlling?