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[Turbo_J]

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, Garrus missing at the Memorial Wall in destroy is curious. Is he always missing?

This is something I can see Shepard interpreting given her conversation with him at the London FOB. Maybe I'll run through it again and avoid chatting with him to see if that changes.

SubAstris: I have on question for you. Try not to go outside of game lore to answer it. Crappy writing/oversight won't cut it here.

Why does the relay explosion on the galaxy map originate in the Bahak system? Sol does not get the BGR nova until the 7th detonation. This was brought to BWs attention but remains true for both the original and EC.

The Bahak system is home to the long destroyed Alpha relay. So how could this happen unless it was something imagined by Shepard?

First how do you know it was brought to their attention.

5 or so threads dating back more than 4 months and Twitter. I looked for the twitter question but I can't find it. I'll keep looking. The point is BW reviewed the endings, modified them; in some cases changing or adding to them, but left the source of the Relay explosion alone.

The EC being the reveal for IT was never BWs intention. You should have known this just by listening to what the Devs said. However, leaked info on Leviathan lends to the possibility that more clues are inbound. Just have a little patience and some faith. Life is too short to be bitter all the time.

[Turbo_J]

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

Modifié par Turbo_J, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:41 .

[MaximizedAction]

prettz wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, Garrus missing at the Memorial Wall in destroy is curious. Is he always missing?

This is something I can see Shepard interpreting given her conversation with him at the London FOB. Maybe I'll run through it again and avoid chatting with him to see if that changes.

only if Shepard lives dose Garrus not show up.... at first. keep waching and he just pops in their when no one is looking.

Oh, for god's sake, I dare anyone to call this a bug without any second thought. They even posted a screenshot on the blog that shows them developing that exact scene, and lo and behold, a bug appears right there.

Seriously? <_<

[SubAstris]

Anthropophobic wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

SubAstris wrote...



Admittedly he was very close to many Reapers on many places, including Earth in the first mission, but we don't see the shaking there.

But you realise BW are never going to do another ending DLC for ME3? The EC was their last attempt and they kept the endings as they were.

NOONE KNOWS WHAT BIOWARE ARE GOING TO DO! 

YOUR OPINION IS NOT FACT, SONNY

I am repeating what BW have said many many times. It is not opinion

Bioware also said that the endings wouldn't just be A, B, C (which it originally obviously was). Bioware also said that there wouldn't just be a switch to kill all the Reapers (which there is).

The truth is that Bioware lies.

That's not to say that BW always lies or fails to deliver on promises.People selectively pick out the lies but forget how often what they said happened, it's understandable.

Also to play devil's advocate, you could say that the whole of ME3 is intended to be the ending and that doesn't come down to a straight A, B and C choice.

[SubAstris]

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

They didn't say forwards though

[Anthropophobic]

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

This. I doubt they're just going to make prequels. There's probably a reason that the Shepard we know (i.e., not Catalyst Shepard) survives only one of the four endings.

[MaximizedAction]

Turbo_J wrote...

The EC being the reveal for IT was never BWs intention. You should have known this just by listening to what the Devs said. However, leaked info on Leviathan lends to the possibility that more clues are inbound. Just have a little patience and some faith. Life is too short to be bitter all the time.

I hope it's not too short to whitness Bioware...taking a stand at some point in the future.

We already (probably) found the Higgs particle and they still haven't commented on IT. What's next, Mass Relays?

[comrade gando]

SubAstris wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Admittedly he was very close to many Reapers on many places, including Earth in the first mission, but we don't see the shaking there.

But you realise BW are never going to do another ending DLC for ME3? The EC was their last attempt and they kept the endings as they were.

bioware said lots of things. they said they wouldn't change the endings but they changed them anyway, and even added a 4th one for ****s and giggles. truth is I can't trust anything bioware says anymore, all I can do is wait for more DLC, and that's just sad how you can't even experience a full game anymore without paying 70 80 90 100 110 DOLLAHS until you get the complete experience... for shame.

There's a difference between doing away with the endings, which is what I think you mean by "changing the endings", and expanding on them, which they did in the EC

oh no sir, they changed them. straight up retconned, the normandy evac scene (lol as that was) was added in, and the relays don't explode the rings just fly off them. which in itself makes no sense since all other synthetics get destroyed but the rings fly off the relays? the normandy doesn't crash it just lands, and the shockwave doesn't damage the normandy anymore.

it's stuff like this that makes me wonder if bioware knows what they're doing, they claim artistic integrity but then make all these retcons. add in a new ending that just seems like slap in the face for all the fans who wanted to question the starchild, and have to explain the meaning of their endings via TWITTER.

it's stuff like this that made me lose faith in bioware, and until they pull their heads out of their collective butts and quit joking around, I'm not giving them anymore money.

Modifié par comrade gando, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:45 .

[SubAstris]

Turbo_J wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, Garrus missing at the Memorial Wall in destroy is curious. Is he always missing?

This is something I can see Shepard interpreting given her conversation with him at the London FOB. Maybe I'll run through it again and avoid chatting with him to see if that changes.

SubAstris: I have on question for you. Try not to go outside of game lore to answer it. Crappy writing/oversight won't cut it here.

Why does the relay explosion on the galaxy map originate in the Bahak system? Sol does not get the BGR nova until the 7th detonation. This was brought to BWs attention but remains true for both the original and EC.

The Bahak system is home to the long destroyed Alpha relay. So how could this happen unless it was something imagined by Shepard?

First how do you know it was brought to their attention.

5 or so threads dating back more than 4 months and Twitter. I looked for the twitter question but I can't find it. I'll keep looking. The point is BW reviewed the endings, modified them; in some cases changing or adding to them, but left the source of the Relay explosion alone.

The EC being the reveal for IT was never BWs intention. You should have known this just by listening to what the Devs said. However, leaked info on Leviathan lends to the possibility that more clues are inbound. Just have a little patience and some faith. Life is too short to be bitter all the time.

And do you think that BW realistically took into consideration every single complaint or even read them all? Unlikely, they probably went for the most common ones, and that's what happened in the EC e.g. "Why can't I tell the Catalyst to f*** off?, what happened to my squadmates in the end?

I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark and say it wasn't on the list of their priorities on the EC to-do list.

That's true, although it begs the question why. Why not if IT is true?

I'm not being bitter, I'm just saying

[Five oH Thre3]

Wondering what BioWare will be revealing at SDCC... Let's hope it's something good!

[SubAstris]

comrade gando wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Admittedly he was very close to many Reapers on many places, including Earth in the first mission, but we don't see the shaking there.

But you realise BW are never going to do another ending DLC for ME3? The EC was their last attempt and they kept the endings as they were.

bioware said lots of things. they said they wouldn't change the endings but they changed them anyway, and even added a 4th one for ****s and giggles. truth is I can't trust anything bioware says anymore, all I can do is wait for more DLC, and that's just sad how you can't even experience a full game anymore without paying 70 80 90 100 110 DOLLAHS until you get the complete experience... for shame.

There's a difference between doing away with the endings, which is what I think you mean by "changing the endings", and expanding on them, which they did in the EC

oh no sir, they changed them. straight up retconned, the normandy evac scene (lol as that was) was added in, and the relays don't explode the rings just fly off them. which in itself makes no sense since all other synthetics get destroyed but the rings fly off the relays? the normandy doesn't crash it just lands, and the shockwave doesn't damage the normandy anymore.

it's stuff like this that makes me wonder if bioware knows what they're doing, they claim artistic integrity but then make all these retcons. add in a new ending that just seems like slap in the face for all the fans who wanted to question the starchild, and have to explain the meaning of their endings via TWITTER.

it's stuff like this that made me lose faith in bioware, and until they pull their heads out of their collective butts and quit joking around, I'm not giving them anymore money.

The difference in our views can be explained very easily. When BW said they weren't going to "change the endings", I thought they meant that they wouldn't remove the Catalyst or the three options; on the other hand, what you seem to have thought is that no changes would happen in the EC, but of course, why do at all if that were the case?

The changes to the ending are largely superficial; all of it is there plus a few add-ons

BW are torn between their artistic vision and money, can't say I blame them

[HellishFiend]

edit: nevermind, I should pay closer attention before I poast. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:51 .

[Anthropophobic]

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, Garrus missing at the Memorial Wall in destroy is curious. Is he always missing?

This is something I can see Shepard interpreting given her conversation with him at the London FOB. Maybe I'll run through it again and avoid chatting with him to see if that changes.

SubAstris: I have on question for you. Try not to go outside of game lore to answer it. Crappy writing/oversight won't cut it here.

Why does the relay explosion on the galaxy map originate in the Bahak system? Sol does not get the BGR nova until the 7th detonation. This was brought to BWs attention but remains true for both the original and EC.

The Bahak system is home to the long destroyed Alpha relay. So how could this happen unless it was something imagined by Shepard?

First how do you know it was brought to their attention.

5 or so threads dating back more than 4 months and Twitter. I looked for the twitter question but I can't find it. I'll keep looking. The point is BW reviewed the endings, modified them; in some cases changing or adding to them, but left the source of the Relay explosion alone.

The EC being the reveal for IT was never BWs intention. You should have known this just by listening to what the Devs said. However, leaked info on Leviathan lends to the possibility that more clues are inbound. Just have a little patience and some faith. Life is too short to be bitter all the time.

And do you think that BW realistically took into consideration every single complaint or even read them all? Unlikely, they probably went for the most common ones, and that's what happened in the EC e.g. "Why can't I tell the Catalyst to f*** off?, what happened to my squadmates in the end?

I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark and say it wasn't on the list of their priorities on the EC to-do list.

That's true, although it begs the question why. Why not if IT is true?

I'm not being bitter, I'm just saying

Because confirming it gains them nothing, and leaving it alone allows them to come back to it for the inevitable release of ME4.

[SubAstris]

Anthropophobic wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, Garrus missing at the Memorial Wall in destroy is curious. Is he always missing?

This is something I can see Shepard interpreting given her conversation with him at the London FOB. Maybe I'll run through it again and avoid chatting with him to see if that changes.

SubAstris: I have on question for you. Try not to go outside of game lore to answer it. Crappy writing/oversight won't cut it here.

Why does the relay explosion on the galaxy map originate in the Bahak system? Sol does not get the BGR nova until the 7th detonation. This was brought to BWs attention but remains true for both the original and EC.

The Bahak system is home to the long destroyed Alpha relay. So how could this happen unless it was something imagined by Shepard?

First how do you know it was brought to their attention.

5 or so threads dating back more than 4 months and Twitter. I looked for the twitter question but I can't find it. I'll keep looking. The point is BW reviewed the endings, modified them; in some cases changing or adding to them, but left the source of the Relay explosion alone.

The EC being the reveal for IT was never BWs intention. You should have known this just by listening to what the Devs said. However, leaked info on Leviathan lends to the possibility that more clues are inbound. Just have a little patience and some faith. Life is too short to be bitter all the time.

And do you think that BW realistically took into consideration every single complaint or even read them all? Unlikely, they probably went for the most common ones, and that's what happened in the EC e.g. "Why can't I tell the Catalyst to f*** off?, what happened to my squadmates in the end?

I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark and say it wasn't on the list of their priorities on the EC to-do list.

That's true, although it begs the question why. Why not if IT is true?

I'm not being bitter, I'm just saying

Because confirming it gains them nothing, and leaving it alone allows them to come back to it for the inevitable release of ME4.

...which you assume will involve Shepard, despite BW's statements to the contrary.

But anyway, not having an EC that shows IT if that was their intention is just unprincipled and very bad

[Turbo_J]

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

They didn't say forwards though

Prequels don't do well. They may work for some gamers and some settings, but I'm not so sure about Mass Effect. There is still a war to fight moving forward. One that could take over 100 years in ME universal time. I'm sure that's more than enough material to continue moving in a linear direction.

Consider that in the human time scale there is only 30 years to work with. And if the story ends in literal terms at ME3, how many would bother playing the back story if we already know how it all ends.

Shepard to Samara on the Citadel. 'is it really worth it if that's how it all ends?'

Modifié par Turbo_J, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:58 .

[Priss Blackburne]

They also said there would be no ending dlc early on....

and at SDCC there panel is to discuss Mass Effect universe past, present, and FUTURE.
Now they could just mean pre-ending dlc as in future releases or they could be after ME3 items. Will find out after SDCC.

In order to continue to grow the frnachise it needs to go forward not backward so eventually they will need to pick a cannon ending. Maybe not now or even in a few years but I think eventually it will have to be done. I personally would find it hard to get as emotionally evolved with a story when I know what happens to the galaxy later on and anything I'm doing now is almost pointless.

The IT is the best that I can see, as ending a franchise with 3 widly different possible endings effectivly ties your hands in developing anything after that series and limits you to only half of what you could do.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 04 juillet 2012 - 08:01 .

[agmrpink]

Turbo_J wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

They didn't say forwards though

Prequels don't do well. They may work for some gamers and some settings, but I'm not so sure about Mass Effect. There is still a war to fight moving forward. One that could take over 100 years in ME universal time. I'm sure that's more than enough material to continue moving in a linear direction.

Consider that in the human time scale there is only 30 years to work with. And if the story ends in literal terms at ME3, how many would bother playing the back story if we already know who it all ends.

Shepard to Samara on the Citadel. 'is it really worth it if that's how it all ends?'

I predict that in ME4, we take control of Stargazer's grandson and SimCity our way to the stars, just like he always dreamed

[SubAstris]

Turbo_J wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

They didn't say forwards though

Prequels don't do well. They may work for some gamers and some settings, but I'm not so sure about Mass Effect. There is still a war to fight moving forward. One that could take over 100 years in ME universal time. I'm sure that's more than enough material to continue moving in a linear direction.

Consider that in the human time scale there is only 30 years to work with. And if the story ends in literal terms at ME3, how many would bother playing the back story if we already know how it all ends.

Shepard to Samara on the Citadel. 'is it really worth it if that's how it all ends?'

Do you happen to have a certain sci-fi franchise in mind mind

They could do a MMO during the war, wouldn't want that, but could be profitable

[tyrvas]

paxxton wrote...

tyrvas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

G'day fine people of the IT. Any world-shifting news?

Did you know about the Starchild's vocal anomaly? I discovered that when he says that Shepard's belief is not required his voice doesn't have Shepard's in the background and its echo increases. Also, the Catalyst strangely twinkles just before saying that. It means that Shepard is slipping out of indoctrination.

Have you noticed Caspers 'voice anomaly' changes to Legions in synthesis ?

Have you noticed Shepards eyes go green when looking at the prothean images at Eden Prime in the From Ashes DLC?

1. No,
2. Yes.

OK...

1. Listen carefully 05:14
2. What did you make of it?

[CoolioThane]

Why the hell are you here SubAstris? You just come across as ignorant, and to be honest, every other post is you trying to prove you're right, despite the majority believing otherwise. If you want to have a go, create a thread so you and others can circlejerk over how there is no IT. Seriously

[Dessalines]

1)The whole answer for who created the Crucible was just odd.

2) Why use the "fire"and "cleansing fire" metaphor in the extended cut to describe the Reapers? Every dreams of Shepard have you or the boy being consumed by fire.

3)The refusal ending doesn't state how the Reapers were defeated, or what people would see when they went to the stars.

4)In your dreams, when you try to go the wrong way and not chase after the boy, you hear the Reaper noise.

5)Is it just me that the Reapers warped your desires to make you join them? IM wanted to see humanity exceed over the other species. The Stupid Jellyfish worshipped the Enkindlers. The Protheans were just like the IM, they wanted to sustain their power over the galaxy. Saren wanted to save the galaxy by showing the value of organics. It is like what IM said how do you know you are not indoctrinated.

[Priss Blackburne]

CoolioThane wrote...

Why the hell are you here SubAstris? You just come across as ignorant, and to be honest, every other post is you trying to prove you're right, despite the majority believing otherwise. If you want to have a go, create a thread so you and others can circlejerk over how there is no IT. Seriously

It's human nature to try and force ones own beliefs on others unfortunatly. One of our biggest problems.

[Anthropophobic]

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

They didn't say forwards though

Prequels don't do well. They may work for some gamers and some settings, but I'm not so sure about Mass Effect. There is still a war to fight moving forward. One that could take over 100 years in ME universal time. I'm sure that's more than enough material to continue moving in a linear direction.

Consider that in the human time scale there is only 30 years to work with. And if the story ends in literal terms at ME3, how many would bother playing the back story if we already know how it all ends.

Shepard to Samara on the Citadel. 'is it really worth it if that's how it all ends?'

Do you happen to have a certain sci-fi franchise in mind mind

They could do a MMO during the war, wouldn't want that, but could be profitable

They already have SW:ToR, which, first of all, will probably turn them off the idea of making anymore MMOs for a long time, and which, secondly, would lose subscribers to an ME MMO. They're not going to deliberately sabotage their own product like that.

[BansheeOwnage]

Salient Archer wrote...

<<<Just testing out my new profile photo... "Mass Effect! -- TUNE UP!!!"

Seems like everyone is getting a new avatar.

[Anthropophobic]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

<<<Just testing out my new profile photo... "Mass Effect! -- TUNE UP!!!"

Seems like everyone is getting a new avatar.

how i do dat