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[prettz]

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

[BansheeOwnage]

prettz wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

That would be funny.

[BansheeOwnage]

Nothing's happening. I'ma go play some MP. I should go.

[zigamortis]

No im thinking more along the lines of shepard being the new mentor character, that is to take over andersons role.

[MaximizedAction]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

prettz wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

That would be funny.

Course accuracy: 15%

[XanderLav]

prettz wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

Shepard antagonist, Shepard mentor, Shepard legacy, Shepard Admiral or Council member

[zigamortis]

Shepard mentor would be best i think. like have the new protagonist be fresh out of N7 training, and have all of shepards conversations be influenced by your choices and morality/disposition in all 3 games. just have it based like 20-40 years in the future. so shepard would be like 50-70 ish since humans live to be about 150 years old in ME he would be like middle aged.

[BansheeOwnage]

XanderLav wrote...

prettz wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

Shepard antagonist, Shepard mentor, Shepard legacy, Shepard Admiral or Council member

Commander Shepard can never be promoted!

[prettz]

Turbo_J wrote...

So it seems Liara is psychic. These lines were also in the original ending which leads me to believe the calculations that alter her dialog were there as well. Points at 'more to come' from where I'm sitting.

Shep: "How are the casualties?"

Liara: "No more wounded, if that's what you mean." - Squadies will all be at the wall.

Liara: "We lost people. Some of the wounded here won't make it." - Squadies will be dead/on the wall.

Remember, this is in the FOB before you lose anyone; unless you didn't talk to Cortez. He was alive in all but one of my playthroughs. When I get 'no more wounded' everyone is alive. I've gotten the 'some won't make it' line with Cortez alive. I think I lost Javik and Garrus in that playthrough.

Have to do some testing and see if there are more than two different replies to Shep's question depending on squad interactions and EMS.

I use the same save and before the EC it was always "We lost people. Some of the wounded here won't make it"
then after EC it's "they haven't brought in many more wounded" did nothing different to change these responses.

[BansheeOwnage]

prettz wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

So it seems Liara is psychic. These lines were also in the original ending which leads me to believe the calculations that alter her dialog were there as well. Points at 'more to come' from where I'm sitting.

Shep: "How are the casualties?"

Liara: "No more wounded, if that's what you mean." - Squadies will all be at the wall.

Liara: "We lost people. Some of the wounded here won't make it." - Squadies will be dead/on the wall.

Remember, this is in the FOB before you lose anyone; unless you didn't talk to Cortez. He was alive in all but one of my playthroughs. When I get 'no more wounded' everyone is alive. I've gotten the 'some won't make it' line with Cortez alive. I think I lost Javik and Garrus in that playthrough.

Have to do some testing and see if there are more than two different replies to Shep's question depending on squad interactions and EMS.

I use the same save and before the EC it was always "We lost people. Some of the wounded here won't make it"
then after EC it's "they haven't brought in many more wounded" did nothing different to change these responses.

That's because they lowered required EMS for things/proves my EMS theory.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

XanderLav wrote...

prettz wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

Shepard antagonist, Shepard mentor, Shepard legacy, Shepard Admiral or Council member

Commander Shepard can never be promoted!

Shepard has saved the galaxy time and again, but s/he still has the rank of lieutenant commander! That's not fair!

[agmrpink]

MaximizedAction wrote...

agmrpink wrote...

Anthropophobic wrote...

agmrpink wrote...

Here's some food for thought:

Earlier, y'all were discussing the Starbaby's voice inflections with respect to Shepard's responses. But has anyone noticed how eerily similar the young boy portion to the voice is eerily similar to that of the child in the moon epilogue?

Starbaby

Moon child

I never thought of that, but you're right. Assuming they weren't just using the same voice actor for the sake of convenience, it could be a sign that maybe the epilogue is intended to be a hallucination for the players to experience.

I'd hope it's not recycled simply for production's sake. I could see that for the case of background extras, but it must surely mean something when it's two scenes' prominent characters. If anything, I'll just use it to further convince myself that BioWare still has some tricks up their sleeves.

What I think is more interesting about that scene:

The Buzz Aldrin version still is this giant with a human adult.
The Refuse version is a asari(?) with a child.

What are the implications of that, assuming Bioware did (and left) the old scene like that on purpose?

At face value, endings A, B, and C are supposed to have "immediate" results. Maybe the timeline that takes place after the citadel is relative to the Stargazers. Refusal ending D assumes that much time passes before the reaper threat is taken care of. The asari gazer may very well be thousands of years old, and still have not witnessed the war's conclusion.

From the IT perspective, I haven't the slightest clue

[agmrpink]

*f me and double posts*

Modifié par agmrpink, 04 juillet 2012 - 09:09 .

[niravital]

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

Following ME games don't have to take place after the end of ME3.
They can also be during the time of Shepard's saga or prior.
They can also be an MMO during or prior to Shepard.

[zigamortis]

Anyone else got a theory on what biowares reason on why they did not prove or disprove the IT yet?

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

XanderLav wrote...

prettz wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Actually there are ways for them to use shepard without him being the protagonist.

renegade Shepard VI as the new ships computer:O

Shepard antagonist, Shepard mentor, Shepard legacy, Shepard Admiral or Council member

Commander Shepard can never be promoted!

Shepard has saved the galaxy time and again, but s/he still has the rank of lieutenant commander! That's not fair!

Shepard's first name is Commander! If they change that Shepard no longer exists!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 juillet 2012 - 09:15 .

[BansheeOwnage]

niravital wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

Following ME games don't have to take place after the end of ME3.
They can also be during the time of Shepard's saga or prior.
They can also be an MMO during or prior to Shepard.

I'll speak for myself when I say this. I wouldn't be interested in a prequel or same-time type deal if this is the end result.

[Turbo_J]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

prettz wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

So it seems Liara is psychic. These lines were also in the original ending which leads me to believe the calculations that alter her dialog were there as well. Points at 'more to come' from where I'm sitting.

Shep: "How are the casualties?"

Liara: "No more wounded, if that's what you mean." - Squadies will all be at the wall.

Liara: "We lost people. Some of the wounded here won't make it." - Squadies will be dead/on the wall.

Remember, this is in the FOB before you lose anyone; unless you didn't talk to Cortez. He was alive in all but one of my playthroughs. When I get 'no more wounded' everyone is alive. I've gotten the 'some won't make it' line with Cortez alive. I think I lost Javik and Garrus in that playthrough.

Have to do some testing and see if there are more than two different replies to Shep's question depending on squad interactions and EMS.

I use the same save and before the EC it was always "We lost people. Some of the wounded here won't make it"
then after EC it's "they haven't brought in many more wounded" did nothing different to change these responses.

That's because they lowered required EMS for things/proves my EMS theory.

Note all the bolded.

Also seems like a third line... which means you can possibly have everyone alive, some dead, lots dead, maybe.

[zigamortis]

@Banshee
i agree 150000%

[niravital]

demersel wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

That's true, although it begs the question why. Why not if IT is true?

I'm not being bitter, I'm just saying

Why not confirm the IT in the EC?
I'll tell you why. 
The press release announcing the EC clearly states one thing - it was not planned. The EC was not in the plan for MASS EFFECT 3 post launch support.
And the IT reaveal was the plan from the get go, which they would really save for the very end.
There you go.
Why spoil the planned grand reaveal in an unplanned DLC aimed at deviating PR damage? 

Yep.

Our time will come

even if IT wasn't planned by BW (and I think it was), I don't think they have a choice.
It fits more than perfectly.

[XanderLav]

niravital wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

Following ME games don't have to take place after the end of ME3.
They can also be during the time of Shepard's saga or prior.
They can also be an MMO during or prior to Shepard.

MMO highly unlikely, they alredy screwed up SWTOR. BW doesn't know how to make mmo's, this is a fact. 
I dont want to play prequels, they suck. I dont see the point of playing something that you already know the result of. The only good prequal I can think of from the top of my had is X-men first class. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one.

[Priss Blackburne]

niravital wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

Following ME games don't have to take place after the end of ME3.
They can also be during the time of Shepard's saga or prior.
They can also be an MMO during or prior to Shepard.

I played the Mass Effect games for the story. I would not be able to get emotionaly evolved into a story I knew how it ended allready. For instance it it involved one of the squadmates, no tension on if they would survive or not since they are allready there at the ending of ME3.

So I would most likely pass on anything prequal to ME trilogy

[zigamortis]

XanderLav wrote...

niravital wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Also, common sense would dictate that there can't be the kind of literal divergence with the game given BW fully intends on continuing the series adventures within the ME univers. It says as much in the modified DataPad message at the end of the EC. Only one of those endings is going to be canon. Can you guess which one?

Following ME games don't have to take place after the end of ME3.
They can also be during the time of Shepard's saga or prior.
They can also be an MMO during or prior to Shepard.

MMO highly unlikely, they alredy screwed up SWTOR. BW doesn't know how to make mmo's, this is a fact. 
I dont want to play prequels, they suck. I dont see the point of playing something that you already know the result of. The only good prequal I can think of from the top of my had is X-men first class. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one.

I would agree if the continuity fit better on XM first class.

[comrade gando]

demersel wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

That's true, although it begs the question why. Why not if IT is true?

I'm not being bitter, I'm just saying

Why not confirm the IT in the EC?
I'll tell you why. 
The press release announcing the EC clearly states one thing - it was not planned. The EC was not in the plan for MASS EFFECT 3 post launch support.
And the IT reaveal was the plan from the get go, which they would really save for the very end.
There you go.
Why spoil the planned grand reaveal in an unplanned DLC aimed at deviating PR damage? 

indeed. I dont think EC was planned, it was merely a response to the fan outrage at the original endings. which brings up the question, who i their right mind would think that the original endings were ready to be released in the shape they were in?! Kind of gives perspective on just how out of touch bioware is with their work. If they are planning some kind of big reveal to explain the mess of an ending this game is still in, then it is likely to come later.

I remember the devs tweeting or something at one point saying that they want to have like a huge wtf twist moment, the "luke I am your father" of video games. well, I hate to break it to you bioware but if starbaby is your idea of a huge plot twist then it's hella weak at best. insulting at worst. unless you have something else you're not telling the fans? only time will tell...

[XanderLav]

zigamortis wrote...

Anyone else got a theory on what biowares reason on why they did not prove or disprove the IT yet?

Yeah, I have one. What is the point of verbaly confirming IT theory. I believe they gonna leave more hints in the upcoming DLC, and finally confirm it in the "Arrival" type DLC or ME 4. Where depending on your choices Shepard can be your mentor or mentor/antagonist.