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[demersel]

Right trolling - is an art. You really need to master it...

For example... What is up with the purgatory club? Why doesn't Avina say she has no information on such an estabelishment? Why it's advertisment in presidium commons has oily shadows all over it? Why when you arrive at the purgatory the elevator says "WARD-level - Purgatory" How come it's ward-level, when it is clearly on the presidium?

[DoomsdayDevice]

Billyg3453 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

How is this hard to understand? You're saying it's childish to belittle people for having a different opinion while you're constantly belittling people for having a different opinion about a different topic.

The only thing I said was that no one is changing their opinion, including me.

Where did I say anything otherwise? I don't understand.

This:

Billyg3453 wrote...

But complaining that other people don't see your viewpoint and that they are not as smart as you is childish.

+ your signature:  "If you pick synthesis, you are a tool"

= Hypocrisy

Thank you, drive through.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:48 .

[demersel]

paxxton wrote...

Amon is an Egyptian god.

ninja'd me with this. +1

[Billyg3453]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Billyg3453 wrote...

But complaining that other people don't see your viewpoint and that they are not as smart as you is childish.

+ your signature:  "If you picked synthesis, you are a tool"

= hypocrisy

Thank you, drive through.

Well played. But I wouldn't say it's exactly the same situation.
I don't like Synthesis because it's nonsensical to Mass Effect, as opposed to Destroy, Control, Refuse, and even Indoctrination.

[Arian Dynas]

paxxton wrote...

Amon is an Egyptian god.

Actually, Amon is a goetic demon of Hebrew mythology.

AmUn is an Egyptian god.

What's new guys?

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:52 .

[CoolioThane]

Billyg3453 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Mate, I remember you coming in and causing ****. Stuff you have said in this thread today "I don't look at the evidence you show as it is mostly just technical errors" or **** like that 

It makes you out to be a dick. 

Because a lot of the things he says could be seen as technical errors, like the audio being louder or quiter at certain points in a conversation.
It's a disagreement. Not trolling

It's your definite attitude that irks me personally. You don't look at the evidence...it just stinks of ignorance...Why are you here if you know you won't change your mind and can't change our minds? That smells like trolling.

[Billyg3453]

CoolioThane wrote...

It's your definite attitude that irks me personally. You don't look at the evidence...it just stinks of ignorance...Why are you here if you know you won't change your mind and can't change our minds? That smells like trolling.

I speak definitely because I believe what I say. I don't like when people argue with vague terms and inconclusive ideas.

And if I'm going to argue against something, I want to be well versed in what I'm arguing against. That's why I follow this thread and ask questions when I'm confused.

[masster blaster]

And Billy just for the record I have been trying to get the Anti and Iter's to get along and I said 39 pages back that everyone is intiteld to believe in what they thinks is right but hay I my say some stuff on the polls but I never have gone to the Literalist Thread so ya. And just because I am a fanatic does not mean you can call me that as people call you a troll just because of how you speak in a sense to others.

Also I always ask this to people weither or not if they are ITer's or not Why are you here.

Are you here to say IT is wrong.
Are you here to help support IT.
Are you here because you are confused about what happened at the end of ME3.
Are you here to just dis people weither they are ITer's or non ITer's.

The bottom line is why are you here Billy.

I know that you are not a troll but you can not just come in here and start saying this and that, just like some ITer's go into the literalist tread and start saying this or that.

But if you have been watch and reading about what we post then why did you comment to Glyth theory just 5 pages back.

Also why did respond to something when we are on a breakthrough on something, and if you do have a question then what is it because from the post that I have read about from you.

You already got your question just refusing to believe it, as you say that we refues to take IT as a hopeless theory that may not be true

So if you think I am the only Fanatic then why don't you go out of this thread and you will see there are more fantics that are even crazier then I am about IT and that goes for Literalyst to.

Also if you think that IT is not true then why hasen't Bioware done this or say something about this.

They already said that they will let their work speak for themselfs so in the end none are right and none are wrong because Bioware is pulling the Game of throns theme and plot in to everying that has happened since ME3 was releases.

[demersel]

Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Amon is an Egyptian god.

Actually, Amon is a goetic demon of Hebrew mythology.

AmUn is an Egyptian god.

What's new guys?

Egyptian mythology predates Hebrew. And you can spell it  Amon[/i], Amoun[/i], Amen[/i], Zeus Amun[/i], and rarely Imen[/i] or Yamun[/i], Greek Ἄμμων Ammon[/i], and Ἅμμων Hammon[/i] 

Modifié par demersel, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:56 .

[Turbo_J]

prettz wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Something interesting to note, at the FOB, when you first gain control after arriving, James isn't there. After going down the ladder, he's suddenly standing at his spot.

aw foowy, I was going to do a vid on that.

Not to mention - how did all of the squad get there? You only took two people with you and you only have one pilot. Joker went to join sword after you departed via shuttle. How did the others get there? Did they pile into the one other shuttle that was on board the Normandy and happen to make it to the FOB. Huge risk for everyone else to becomes a single target.

Where did Cortez end up?

How does Shep know where everyone from ME2 is? And Cortez - who never reported his location.

How is every one of them by a QEC?

How did Jacob get off the Citadel? He was there right up until we hit Cronos. He's the only one that does not leave after you talk with him and never gave any indication of joining the fight on earth.

Why is there so much paper in London when everyone uses datapads and Omni-Tools. I've never seen a single person handle a piece of paper in ME.

How is any non QEC  communication still working?

Why does the turret mini-mission affect Liara's comment on dead and wounded?

Why is Liara's mind blank?

Why are the Krogan so calm?

Why does Wrex have 'baby girl named Mordin' amnesia?

Why is there view bob in the loadout screen (when you go to the weapon mod portion.)

I'm sure there's more.

[Billyg3453]

masster blaster wrote...

*snip*

I probably should have rephrased what I said when referring to you and Pax (as I see you the most). I meant more that the both of you throw out a lot of possibilities that I tend to tune out.

Looking back, I probably shouldn't have called you both out specifically.

[demersel]

Turbo_J wrote...

prettz wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Something interesting to note, at the FOB, when you first gain control after arriving, James isn't there. After going down the ladder, he's suddenly standing at his spot.

aw foowy, I was going to do a vid on that.

Not to mention - how did all of the squad get there? You only took two people with you and you only have one pilot. Joker went to join sword after you departed via shuttle. How did the others get there? Did they pile into the one other shuttle that was on board the Normandy and happen to make it to the FOB. Huge risk for everyone else to becomes a single target.

Where did Cortez end up?

How does Shep know where everyone from ME2 is? And Cortez - who never reported his location.

How is every one of them by a QEC?

How did Jacob get off the Citadel? He was there right up until we hit Cronos. He's the only one that does not leave after you talk with him and never gave any indication of joining the fight on earth.

Why is there so much paper in London when everyone uses datapads and Omni-Tools. I've never seen a single person handle a piece of paper in ME.

How is any non QEC  communication still working?

Why does the turret mini-mission affect Liara's comment on dead and wounded?

Why is Liara's mind blank?

Why are the Krogan so calm?

Why does Wrex have 'baby girl named Mordin' amnesia?

Why is there view bob in the loadout screen (when you go to the weapon mod portion.)

I'm sure there's more.

The bit about jacob is realy interesting! Never noticed how strange is that!!  He was on the citadel, and intended to stay there!

[CoolioThane]

Billyg3453 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

It's your definite attitude that irks me personally. You don't look at the evidence...it just stinks of ignorance...Why are you here if you know you won't change your mind and can't change our minds? That smells like trolling.

I speak definitely because I believe what I say. I don't like when people argue with vague terms and inconclusive ideas.

And if I'm going to argue against something, I want to be well versed in what I'm arguing against. That's why I follow this thread and ask questions when I'm confused.

a) There's a mountain of evidence you seem to ignore and write off as "bad writing" or "technical error" when in actuality it is more likely purposefully placed.

But being on this thread...speaking definitively is only going to rile people. Think.

c) You've said before; you aren't going to convince us, we aren't going to convince you. Therefore the only reason you're arguing is to rile us up; trolling.

[XanderLav]

masster blaster wrote...



They already said that they will let their work speak for themselfs so in the end none are right and none are wrong because Bioware is pulling the Game of throns theme and plot in to everying that has happened since ME3 was releases.

I don't get this reference, explain please.

[Rosewind]

demersel wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

prettz wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Something interesting to note, at the FOB, when you first gain control after arriving, James isn't there. After going down the ladder, he's suddenly standing at his spot.

aw foowy, I was going to do a vid on that.

Not to mention - how did all of the squad get there? You only took two people with you and you only have one pilot. Joker went to join sword after you departed via shuttle. How did the others get there? Did they pile into the one other shuttle that was on board the Normandy and happen to make it to the FOB. Huge risk for everyone else to becomes a single target.

Where did Cortez end up?

How does Shep know where everyone from ME2 is? And Cortez - who never reported his location.

How is every one of them by a QEC?

How did Jacob get off the Citadel? He was there right up until we hit Cronos. He's the only one that does not leave after you talk with him and never gave any indication of joining the fight on earth.

Why is there so much paper in London when everyone uses datapads and Omni-Tools. I've never seen a single person handle a piece of paper in ME.

How is any non QEC  communication still working?

Why does the turret mini-mission affect Liara's comment on dead and wounded?

Why is Liara's mind blank?

Why are the Krogan so calm?

Why does Wrex have 'baby girl named Mordin' amnesia?

Why is there view bob in the loadout screen (when you go to the weapon mod portion.)

I'm sure there's more.

The bit about jacob is realy interesting! Never noticed how strange is that!!  He was on the citadel, and intended to stay there!

Zaeed was also still on the citidel when you left as well,  Jacob and Zaeed are the only ones that I can remeber who don't say roughly where they are.

[Billyg3453]

CoolioThane wrote...

a) There's a mountain of evidence you seem to ignore and write off as "bad writing" or "technical error" when in actuality it is more likely purposefully placed.

But being on this thread...speaking definitively is only going to rile people. Think.

c) You've said before; you aren't going to convince us, we aren't going to convince you. Therefore the only reason you're arguing is to rile us up; trolling.

In response to point A, that's because it is what I believe it is.

In response to point B, I don't speak definitively in this thread, I only ask questions. Today I made an observation which completely fell apart.

In response to C, I've never argued about whether IT is true or not in this thread. I've only debated about evidence and how it relates to IT.

Can we please let this go? If you feel like I've been trolling you, I'm sorry, I try not to.

Modifié par Billyg3453, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:11 .

[Lokanaiya]

Guys, stop arguing about who's a troll and who's not. It's childish.

And, Turbo, maybe the entire FOB is a dream? It seems the only way to explain so many odd things.

[demersel]

BTW guys - here's a couple of my old posts right after launch.

Might be interesting to read, still mostly relevant even after the EC.


social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11337906

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/10446757 (mostly angry rant, but still somewhat funny)

Might be usefull.

Modifié par demersel, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:12 .

[Turbo_J]

Rosewind wrote...

demersel wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

prettz wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Something interesting to note, at the FOB, when you first gain control after arriving, James isn't there. After going down the ladder, he's suddenly standing at his spot.

aw foowy, I was going to do a vid on that.

Not to mention - how did all of the squad get there? You only took two people with you and you only have one pilot. Joker went to join sword after you departed via shuttle. How did the others get there? Did they pile into the one other shuttle that was on board the Normandy and happen to make it to the FOB. Huge risk for everyone else to becomes a single target.

Where did Cortez end up?

How does Shep know where everyone from ME2 is? And Cortez - who never reported his location.

How is every one of them by a QEC?

How did Jacob get off the Citadel? He was there right up until we hit Cronos. He's the only one that does not leave after you talk with him and never gave any indication of joining the fight on earth.

Why is there so much paper in London when everyone uses datapads and Omni-Tools. I've never seen a single person handle a piece of paper in ME.

How is any non QEC  communication still working?

Why does the turret mini-mission affect Liara's comment on dead and wounded?

Why is Liara's mind blank?

Why are the Krogan so calm?

Why does Wrex have 'baby girl named Mordin' amnesia?

Why is there view bob in the loadout screen (when you go to the weapon mod portion.)

I'm sure there's more.

The bit about jacob is realy interesting! Never noticed how strange is that!!  He was on the citadel, and intended to stay there!

Zaeed was also still on the citidel when you left as well,  Jacob and Zaeed are the only ones that I can remeber who don't say roughly where they are.

But Zaeed agreed to fight for earth pending Shepards word it was going down. Cronos being the kickoff, Shep would have given word (off camera). The discussion they had about it should imply that it would have happened that way.

[Rosewind]

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

demersel wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

prettz wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Something interesting to note, at the FOB, when you first gain control after arriving, James isn't there. After going down the ladder, he's suddenly standing at his spot.

aw foowy, I was going to do a vid on that.

Not to mention - how did all of the squad get there? You only took two people with you and you only have one pilot. Joker went to join sword after you departed via shuttle. How did the others get there? Did they pile into the one other shuttle that was on board the Normandy and happen to make it to the FOB. Huge risk for everyone else to becomes a single target.

Where did Cortez end up?

How does Shep know where everyone from ME2 is? And Cortez - who never reported his location.

How is every one of them by a QEC?

How did Jacob get off the Citadel? He was there right up until we hit Cronos. He's the only one that does not leave after you talk with him and never gave any indication of joining the fight on earth.

Why is there so much paper in London when everyone uses datapads and Omni-Tools. I've never seen a single person handle a piece of paper in ME.

How is any non QEC  communication still working?

Why does the turret mini-mission affect Liara's comment on dead and wounded?

Why is Liara's mind blank?

Why are the Krogan so calm?

Why does Wrex have 'baby girl named Mordin' amnesia?

Why is there view bob in the loadout screen (when you go to the weapon mod portion.)

I'm sure there's more.

The bit about jacob is realy interesting! Never noticed how strange is that!!  He was on the citadel, and intended to stay there!

Zaeed was also still on the citidel when you left as well,  Jacob and Zaeed are the only ones that I can remeber who don't say roughly where they are.

But Zaeed agreed to fight for earth pending Shepards word it was going down. Cronos being the kickoff, Shep would have given word (off camera). The discussion they had about it should imply that it would have happened that way.

But why would they do it off camera, and besides shep didn't know he was going straight to earth after cronos station.

[Turbo_J]

demersel wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

demersel wrote...

Here's that post http://social.biowar.../index/11342724

Something  just accured to me: Glyph - the shadow broker's assistant VI - it is the same colour that the catalyst VI is. This is the only other time a tech is using white colour as the representation. In the Shadow Broker DLC glyph states, that he can assume any form suitable for the use of the shadow broker.  There is clearly the same tech (shifting panels) used in the area of the citadel right before you meet the catalyst.  In the beginning of ME3 Liara states, that it was glyph that help to find evidence of the prothean weapon, crucible, by sotring through the data. With out it, she says, she would never have found it.  Protheans poured all of their resources trying to build it, but something went wrong, and they we evidently unable to finish it (or were they?) In ME1 Barla Von, the volus trader on cidatel tells you his take on the shadow broker - that shadow broker has been around for ages, and all his actions alll in all resulted in keeping things at a delicate balance somehow - so the shodow broker with all his action always made sure that things stay the way the are, so no one will gain the upper hand or any kind of advantage - in other words keeping thins at a certain level. And that all he has ever done is consisted with a single personality. In Shadow Broker DLC, we learn that the shodow broker is some random dude, that killed the former Shadow Broker, who most likely also was some random dude. Then we kill him and Liara is the new shodow broker. 
and the only commom element is the old ship of mysterios origin and design, and a VI data assistant, that is left there to discover and use by anyone who finds it.
Kndy like the citadel and the mass relay network left behind for anyone do discover to keep calactic civilization on the desired path and at the desired level, don't you think?
And we spend th whole game in a ship with that thing! (and during that time we're having visions and confusing dreams). And we spend the whole game collecting resources of the galaxy to puor it into buidling a device of unknown origin and function, the schematics for which were conviniently found by this thing right at the moment of crysis.... This feels like a set up. and a diversion.

That... is bloody brilliant. Someone please confirm if there's infrasound around that sucker.

By the way, wasn't there that bit where the Shadow Broker worked with the Collectors, knowing that the Collectors were reaper agents, because the Shadow Broker was under the impression that he could broker a deal where he would survive the reaping?

Reminds me of a certain turian we know.

When i first wrote it i late march we didn't yet know of infrasound. No that we do we need to search the scenes with glyph for it , and comb through LOSB also, maybe there is infrasound there? 

Need to pop this up again. I think this is very important. A few things get somewhat cleared up with this theory.

Explains why, and maybe how Cerberus gets Shepard the info on the SB base location. The Yahg has to go and why not replace it with Liara; someone very close to Shepard. Perhaps the VI leaked the location.

Explains why Liara seems a bit useless.

Explains why Liara seems not quite herself when you run into her on Mars. There could have been 'Citadel style' pacification/mild Indoctrination Reaper tech on the SB ship.

I looked into Lazarus and found that Willson was working for the broker when he tried to kill Shepard. This order may have come from the 'Broker' but it gets even more interesting if the 'Broker' the order came from was Glyph.

[CoolioThane]

Billyg3453 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

a) There's a mountain of evidence you seem to ignore and write off as "bad writing" or "technical error" when in actuality it is more likely purposefully placed.

But being on this thread...speaking definitively is only going to rile people. Think.

c) You've said before; you aren't going to convince us, we aren't going to convince you. Therefore the only reason you're arguing is to rile us up; trolling.

In response to point A, that's because it is what I believe it is.

In response to point B, I don't speak definitively in this thread, I only ask questions. Today I made an observation which completely fell apart.

In response to C, I've never argued about whether IT is true or not in this thread. I've only debated about evidence and how it relates to IT.

Can we please let this go? If you feel like I've been trolling you, I'm sorry, I try not to.

You have spoken definiteively by saying "I don't look at the evidence you post as it is techincal error" without looking is pretty definite, bro

But you know you will never believe it, so trying to debate is only really trying to make us move on...which is futile...it's pointless arguing bro

[Billyg3453]

CoolioThane wrote...

You have spoken definiteively by saying "I don't look at the evidence you post as it is techincal error" without looking is pretty definite, bro

But you know you will never believe it, so trying to debate is only really trying to make us move on...which is futile...it's pointless arguing bro

Ok

Modifié par Billyg3453, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:35 .

[Turbo_J]

Rosewind wrote...

But why would they do it off camera, and besides shep didn't know he was going straight to earth after cronos station.

I didn't say it was fact and you don't have to agree with any of it. It's an observation. Why focus on Zaeed? He wasn't the point of question, nor does he fit into a similar situation; which is, Jacob's persistant presence on the Citadel seems odd and without purpose.

[masster blaster]

Turbo_J wrote...

demersel wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

demersel wrote...

Here's that post http://social.biowar.../index/11342724

Something  just accured to me: Glyph - the shadow broker's assistant VI - it is the same colour that the catalyst VI is. This is the only other time a tech is using white colour as the representation. In the Shadow Broker DLC glyph states, that he can assume any form suitable for the use of the shadow broker.  There is clearly the same tech (shifting panels) used in the area of the citadel right before you meet the catalyst.  In the beginning of ME3 Liara states, that it was glyph that help to find evidence of the prothean weapon, crucible, by sotring through the data. With out it, she says, she would never have found it.  Protheans poured all of their resources trying to build it, but something went wrong, and they we evidently unable to finish it (or were they?) In ME1 Barla Von, the volus trader on cidatel tells you his take on the shadow broker - that shadow broker has been around for ages, and all his actions alll in all resulted in keeping things at a delicate balance somehow - so the shodow broker with all his action always made sure that things stay the way the are, so no one will gain the upper hand or any kind of advantage - in other words keeping thins at a certain level. And that all he has ever done is consisted with a single personality. In Shadow Broker DLC, we learn that the shodow broker is some random dude, that killed the former Shadow Broker, who most likely also was some random dude. Then we kill him and Liara is the new shodow broker. 
and the only commom element is the old ship of mysterios origin and design, and a VI data assistant, that is left there to discover and use by anyone who finds it.
Kndy like the citadel and the mass relay network left behind for anyone do discover to keep calactic civilization on the desired path and at the desired level, don't you think?
And we spend th whole game in a ship with that thing! (and during that time we're having visions and confusing dreams). And we spend the whole game collecting resources of the galaxy to puor it into buidling a device of unknown origin and function, the schematics for which were conviniently found by this thing right at the moment of crysis.... This feels like a set up. and a diversion.

That... is bloody brilliant. Someone please confirm if there's infrasound around that sucker.

By the way, wasn't there that bit where the Shadow Broker worked with the Collectors, knowing that the Collectors were reaper agents, because the Shadow Broker was under the impression that he could broker a deal where he would survive the reaping?

Reminds me of a certain turian we know.

When i first wrote it i late march we didn't yet know of infrasound. No that we do we need to search the scenes with glyph for it , and comb through LOSB also, maybe there is infrasound there? 

Need to pop this up again. I think this is very important. A few things get somewhat cleared up with this theory.

Explains why, and maybe how Cerberus gets Shepard the info on the SB base location. The Yahg has to go and why not replace it with Liara; someone very close to Shepard. Perhaps the VI leaked the location.

Explains why Liara seems a bit useless.

Explains why Liara seems not quite herself when you run into her on Mars. There could have been 'Citadel style' pacification/mild Indoctrination Reaper tech on the SB ship.

I looked into Lazarus and found that Willson was working for the broker when he tried to kill Shepard. This order may have come from the 'Broker' but it gets even more interesting if the 'Broker' the order came from was Glyph.

Which makes you wonder. Who created Glyph? Plus it knew about the Mars prothean divices so I don"t know if we should trust Gylph espicaly since it has all the info that we have on the Reapers and all the tech that we have in the time capsule so. If Glyph is working with the Reapers then it can support IT because of the obiase reasones that are in this quotes above.

i am just saying I could be wrong but hay they wanted us to come up with an anwser.

Modifié par masster blaster, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:41 .