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[masster blaster]

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

But why would they do it off camera, and besides shep didn't know he was going straight to earth after cronos station.

I didn't say it was fact and you don't have to agree with any of it. It's an observation. Why focus on Zaeed? He wasn't the point of question, nor does he fit into a similar situation; which is, Jacob's persistant presence on the Citadel seems odd and without purpose.

Also what"s with the Citadle defence forces if they don't go help retake earth. That's what also makes me wonder if the Citadle was taken by the Reapers would that mean the Citadle Defence force was still fighting on the Citadle when Shepard went up there. And if so why not help Shepard/What happened to Baily, Aria,Genral Okker, and the Councile.

[Priss Blackburne]

I don't think anyone that believes "IT" doesn't understand that some of the little hints could be due to mistakes or game engine problems/bugs.

But the amount of clues, from no interaction with or any else seeing or hearing the child at the beginning, to the mysterious tree from the dream that shows up after getting hit from harbinger.

So yes I believe some things can be filed away under bugs/mistakes but only a small portion of what makes IT a viable ending. The issue is figuring out what items are bugs and what are clues to something else going on.

We also have to consider just plain oops moments, every media has them in a form or another, it's just things like one min a character has a wound on their right leg, next scene it's their left leg. Or just watch"How it should have ended" to see other big oops moments in movies.It's why "IT" is hard to get other people to accept as something that is possible.

I really do believe in "IT", but that may be my inability to believe Bioware could screw up so much on the disconnection of the ending from the rest of the franchise. I hoping my faith in Bioware will be renewed, as I already have artbooks, comics, novels, soundtracks and tons of merch for Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

ps. I never trusted Glyph he looked too much like that thing that tried to kill me in halo! I didn't think he was working for the reapers tho..should have known :/

[Nightingale]

Someone mentioned it earlier and it reminded me, but I think I found where the camera bob starts in London. The last three times I've played, it didn't start until the apartment with the charred bodies, only starting when I hit R3 (on PS3, not sure what that is on Xbox or PC) for the view outside the window (by the turrets).

[Auralius Carolus]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I don't think anyone that believes "IT" doesn't understand that some of the little hints could be due to mistakes or game engine problems/bugs.

But the amount of clues, from no interaction with or any else seeing or hearing the child at the beginning, to the mysterious tree from the dream that shows up after getting hit from harbinger.

So yes I believe some things can be filed away under bugs/mistakes but only a small portion of what makes IT a viable ending. The issue is figuring out what items are bugs and what are clues to something else going on.

We also have to consider just plain oops moments, every media has them in a form or another, it's just things like one min a character has a wound on their right leg, next scene it's their left leg. Or just watch"How it should have ended" to see other big oops moments in movies.It's why "IT" is hard to get other people to accept as something that is possible.

I really do believe in "IT", but that may be my inability to believe Bioware could screw up so much on the disconnection of the ending from the rest of the franchise. I hoping my faith in Bioware will be renewed, as I already have artbooks, comics, novels, soundtracks and tons of merch for Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

ps. I never trusted Glyph he looked too much like that thing that tried to kill me in halo! I didn't think he was working for the reapers tho..should have known :/

GLYPH!!!??? Since when?

[Priss Blackburne]

He's been playing subliminal messages over the Normandy speakers" don't fear the reaper"?

[CoolioThane]

Billyg3453 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

You have spoken definiteively by saying "I don't look at the evidence you post as it is techincal error" without looking is pretty definite, bro

But you know you will never believe it, so trying to debate is only really trying to make us move on...which is futile...it's pointless arguing bro

Ok

http://www.youtube.c...CQi9mWcbI#t=33s 

Peace

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I don't think anyone that believes "IT" doesn't understand that some of the little hints could be due to mistakes or game engine problems/bugs.

But the amount of clues, from no interaction with or any else seeing or hearing the child at the beginning, to the mysterious tree from the dream that shows up after getting hit from harbinger.

So yes I believe some things can be filed away under bugs/mistakes but only a small portion of what makes IT a viable ending. The issue is figuring out what items are bugs and what are clues to something else going on.

We also have to consider just plain oops moments, every media has them in a form or another, it's just things like one min a character has a wound on their right leg, next scene it's their left leg. Or just watch"How it should have ended" to see other big oops moments in movies.It's why "IT" is hard to get other people to accept as something that is possible.

I really do believe in "IT", but that may be my inability to believe Bioware could screw up so much on the disconnection of the ending from the rest of the franchise. I hoping my faith in Bioware will be renewed, as I already have artbooks, comics, novels, soundtracks and tons of merch for Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

ps. I never trusted Glyph he looked too much like that thing that tried to kill me in halo! I didn't think he was working for the reapers tho..should have known :/

It would be funy if Glyph was the Catalyst and watched how Shepard did through out the whole game so ya who knows but Bioware.

Also is it just me or did somebody say that Glyph was trying to keep balance hence for it is the Shadow Broker and the Organic figure is just a ploy to think that that's the ShadowBroker and not Glyph.

[Turbo_J]

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

But why would they do it off camera, and besides shep didn't know he was going straight to earth after cronos station.

I didn't say it was fact and you don't have to agree with any of it. It's an observation. Why focus on Zaeed? He wasn't the point of question, nor does he fit into a similar situation; which is, Jacob's persistant presence on the Citadel seems odd and without purpose.

Also what"s with the Citadle defence forces if they don't go help retake earth. That's what also makes me wonder if the Citadle was taken by the Reapers would that mean the Citadle Defence force was still fighting on the Citadle when Shepard went up there. And if so why not help Shepard/What happened to Baily, Aria,Genral Okker, and the Councile.

You tend to mash together the possibility of Indoctrination with literal interpretation. So which is it? You do this a lot.

If you believe Shepard was in London covered in concrete rubble, why do you interpret what happened on the citadel as taking place within game reality?

The CDF is for the Citadel. It has nothing to do with Earth specifically. The total EMS may be broken up into categories in the future for whatever BW has in mind, but these are unknow elements at this point in time.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:49 .

[Rosewind]

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

But why would they do it off camera, and besides shep didn't know he was going straight to earth after cronos station.

I didn't say it was fact and you don't have to agree with any of it. It's an observation. Why focus on Zaeed? He wasn't the point of question, nor does he fit into a similar situation; which is, Jacob's persistant presence on the Citadel seems odd and without purpose.

Wow no need to be snippy.

[zigamortis]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

AlduinTheWorldNommer wrote...

IT is dead. I think it's time all of you moved on like the rest of us.

Alduin? But I literally just killed you...

I was pissed that Ulfric Stormcloak is immune to soul trap.  I was going to imprison his soul in a pair of panties and sell them to a tranvestite orc.

(I'm not kidding either, that's the beauty of the PC version and its modability)

Ulfric wasnt immune to Dead Thrall though, so I have a pet Ulfric to help me root out the remaining Stormcloaks.

So thats pretty nice.

How dare you kill the rightful king of skyrim!

[demersel]

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I don't think anyone that believes "IT" doesn't understand that some of the little hints could be due to mistakes or game engine problems/bugs.

But the amount of clues, from no interaction with or any else seeing or hearing the child at the beginning, to the mysterious tree from the dream that shows up after getting hit from harbinger.

So yes I believe some things can be filed away under bugs/mistakes but only a small portion of what makes IT a viable ending. The issue is figuring out what items are bugs and what are clues to something else going on.

We also have to consider just plain oops moments, every media has them in a form or another, it's just things like one min a character has a wound on their right leg, next scene it's their left leg. Or just watch"How it should have ended" to see other big oops moments in movies.It's why "IT" is hard to get other people to accept as something that is possible.

I really do believe in "IT", but that may be my inability to believe Bioware could screw up so much on the disconnection of the ending from the rest of the franchise. I hoping my faith in Bioware will be renewed, as I already have artbooks, comics, novels, soundtracks and tons of merch for Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

ps. I never trusted Glyph he looked too much like that thing that tried to kill me in halo! I didn't think he was working for the reapers tho..should have known :/

It would be funy if Glyph was the Catalyst and watched how Shepard did through out the whole game so ya who knows but Bioware.

Also is it just me or did somebody say that Glyph was trying to keep balance hence for it is the Shadow Broker and the Organic figure is just a ploy to think that that's the ShadowBroker and not Glyph.

I did say exactly this

[masster blaster]

Turbo_J wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

But why would they do it off camera, and besides shep didn't know he was going straight to earth after cronos station.

I didn't say it was fact and you don't have to agree with any of it. It's an observation. Why focus on Zaeed? He wasn't the point of question, nor does he fit into a similar situation; which is, Jacob's persistant presence on the Citadel seems odd and without purpose.

Also what"s with the Citadle defence forces if they don't go help retake earth. That's what also makes me wonder if the Citadle was taken by the Reapers would that mean the Citadle Defence force was still fighting on the Citadle when Shepard went up there. And if so why not help Shepard/What happened to Baily, Aria,Genral Okker, and the Councile.

You tend to mash together the possibility of Indoctrination with literal interpretation. So which is it? You do this a lot.

If you believe Shepard was in London covered in concrete rubble, why do you interpret what happened on the citadel as taking place within game reality?

The CDF is for the Citadel. It has nothing to do with Earth specifically. The total EMS may be borken up into categories in the future for whatever BW has in mind, but these are unknow elements at this point in time.

Well for one it's IT for me but I am trying to point out if THIS Was the real deal then where are they, and why don't the others who think IT is bad think about this?

Also I did a Bioware think like they did in EC.

[Turbo_J]

demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I don't think anyone that believes "IT" doesn't understand that some of the little hints could be due to mistakes or game engine problems/bugs.

But the amount of clues, from no interaction with or any else seeing or hearing the child at the beginning, to the mysterious tree from the dream that shows up after getting hit from harbinger.

So yes I believe some things can be filed away under bugs/mistakes but only a small portion of what makes IT a viable ending. The issue is figuring out what items are bugs and what are clues to something else going on.

We also have to consider just plain oops moments, every media has them in a form or another, it's just things like one min a character has a wound on their right leg, next scene it's their left leg. Or just watch"How it should have ended" to see other big oops moments in movies.It's why "IT" is hard to get other people to accept as something that is possible.

I really do believe in "IT", but that may be my inability to believe Bioware could screw up so much on the disconnection of the ending from the rest of the franchise. I hoping my faith in Bioware will be renewed, as I already have artbooks, comics, novels, soundtracks and tons of merch for Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

ps. I never trusted Glyph he looked too much like that thing that tried to kill me in halo! I didn't think he was working for the reapers tho..should have known :/

It would be funy if Glyph was the Catalyst and watched how Shepard did through out the whole game so ya who knows but Bioware.

Also is it just me or did somebody say that Glyph was trying to keep balance hence for it is the Shadow Broker and the Organic figure is just a ploy to think that that's the ShadowBroker and not Glyph.

I did say exactly this

There you are! It's shameful that this information was overlooked for so long. Well done.

[Auralius Carolus]

demersel wrote...

I did say exactly this

But this is a considerable leap is theory, is it not? What solid evidence is there that there is something up with the Glyph VI?

[masster blaster]

demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

I don't think anyone that believes "IT" doesn't understand that some of the little hints could be due to mistakes or game engine problems/bugs.

But the amount of clues, from no interaction with or any else seeing or hearing the child at the beginning, to the mysterious tree from the dream that shows up after getting hit from harbinger.

So yes I believe some things can be filed away under bugs/mistakes but only a small portion of what makes IT a viable ending. The issue is figuring out what items are bugs and what are clues to something else going on.

We also have to consider just plain oops moments, every media has them in a form or another, it's just things like one min a character has a wound on their right leg, next scene it's their left leg. Or just watch"How it should have ended" to see other big oops moments in movies.It's why "IT" is hard to get other people to accept as something that is possible.

I really do believe in "IT", but that may be my inability to believe Bioware could screw up so much on the disconnection of the ending from the rest of the franchise. I hoping my faith in Bioware will be renewed, as I already have artbooks, comics, novels, soundtracks and tons of merch for Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

ps. I never trusted Glyph he looked too much like that thing that tried to kill me in halo! I didn't think he was working for the reapers tho..should have known :/

It would be funy if Glyph was the Catalyst and watched how Shepard did through out the whole game so ya who knows but Bioware.

Also is it just me or did somebody say that Glyph was trying to keep balance hence for it is the Shadow Broker and the Organic figure is just a ploy to think that that's the ShadowBroker and not Glyph.

I did say exactly this

makes you think is Glyph working for the Reapers and if so tehn that means it's been giving the Reapers info on what Shepard is doing.

[Priss Blackburne]

Please tell me he wasn't sending pictures of me having a shower to harbinger? is that why he stopped calling? too awkward to have a proper villain to hero dialogue after that?

and yes I'm being silly for the sake of being silly

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:53 .

[demersel]

Turbo_J wrote...

There you are! It's shameful that this information was overlooked for so long. Well done.

Actually i did post this in this thread like three months ago, before the infrasound e.t.c. but it was just ignored then. 

[Auralius Carolus]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

Please tell me he wasn't sending pictures of me having a shower to harbinger? is that why he stopped calling? too awkward to have a proper villain to hero dialogue after that?

and yes I'm being silly for the sake of being silly

I don't know about Harbinger, but I bet Liara has it stalking you. She doesn't give up on Shepard... she wants herself some Commander.

[masster blaster]

demersel wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

There you are! It's shameful that this information was overlooked for so long. Well done.

Actually i did post this in this thread like three months ago, before the infrasound e.t.c. but it was just ignored then. 

Well should we tell cleverNoob about this Theory or anybody that can make videos.

[Iconoclaste]

masster blaster wrote...
Also what"s with the Citadle defence forces if they don't go help retake earth. That's what also makes me wonder if the Citadle was taken by the Reapers would that mean the Citadle Defence force was still fighting on the Citadle when Shepard went up there. And if so why not help Shepard/What happened to Baily, Aria,Genral Okker, and the Councile.

............. .............. ...............

Well for one it's IT for me but I am trying to point out if THIS Was the real deal then where are they, and why don't the others who think IT is bad think about this?

Since the "end sequence" is taking place in an area never visited by an organic before (I suppose), what happens / happened in the other parts of the Citadel is left to "interpretation". My wild guess.

[demersel]

The real implication of this is that Shepard and the Whole allience fleet is working for the reapers - gathering all the forces, and putting it all in one place (earth), while also putting all the galaxy's resourses into building the crucible, which is does god knows what. (best case scenario - it's a giant kill switch for the mass relay network, it fires network is destroyed, galaxy is devided with it's combined fleet trapped at earth facing superior reaper forces. No escape. "It's a trap!" reference is very much in place here. Almost exactly the same plan as the emperor had.

[masster blaster]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

Please tell me he wasn't sending pictures of me having a shower to harbinger? is that why he stopped calling? too awkward to have a proper villain to hero dialogue after that?

and yes I'm being silly for the sake of being silly

I don't know about Harbinger, but I bet Liara has it stalking you. She doesn't give up on Shepard... she wants herself some Commander.

Tis the reason why she get's jealiuos on Mars if you have Ash as a LI and when you are at the control panal then when Ash makes a good point then liara get's very moody about Shepard making a good comment on Ash.

Also she smiles at Ash when she get's fd up by EVA and then looks up at Shepard like 'You are all mine if she dies.'

[Priss Blackburne]

demersel wrote...

The real implication of this is that Shepard and the Whole allience fleet is working for the reapers - gathering all the forces, and putting it all in one place (earth), while also putting all the galaxy's resourses into building the crucible, which is does god knows what. (best case scenario - it's a giant kill switch for the mass relay network, it fires network is destroyed, galaxy is devided with it's combined fleet trapped at earth facing superior reaper forces. No escape. "It's a trap!" reference is very much in place here. Almost exactly the same plan as the emperor had.

wow that ...makes sense ... make your enemy waste resources and time making something made to work against them...that's brilliant! what I would expect from million's of years old scary as hell ( at the begining at least ) Reapers.

Modifié par Priss Blackburne, 05 juillet 2012 - 03:01 .

[masster blaster]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

demersel wrote...

The real implication of this is that Shepard and the Whole allience fleet is working for the reapers - gathering all the forces, and putting it all in one place (earth), while also putting all the galaxy's resourses into building the crucible, which is does god knows what. (best case scenario - it's a giant kill switch for the mass relay network, it fires network is destroyed, galaxy is devided with it's combined fleet trapped at earth facing superior reaper forces. No escape. "It's a trap!" reference is very much in place here. Almost exactly the same plan as the emperor had.

wow that ...makes sense ... make your enemy waste resources and time making something made to work against them...that's brilliant! what I would expect from million's of years old scary as hell ( at the begining at least ) Reapers.

oh and how does javik and Vendetta know that they never finished the Crucible/ For one Javik was in hiper Sleep so that"s out, but Vendetta was storied in the Beacon for a long time so?

[Turbo_J]

demersel wrote...

The real implication of this is that Shepard and the Whole allience fleet is working for the reapers - gathering all the forces, and putting it all in one place (earth), while also putting all the galaxy's resourses into building the crucible, which is does god knows what. (best case scenario - it's a giant kill switch for the mass relay network, it fires network is destroyed, galaxy is devided with it's combined fleet trapped at earth facing superior reaper forces. No escape. "It's a trap!" reference is very much in place here. Almost exactly the same plan as the emperor had.

Pretty much.

Foolish from the start. When the Reapers have had control of the Citadel in previous cycles, what's the first thing they do? Flood ships through the network into each habited system and then kill the relays. This cycle was a bit different, but the end result the same.