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[BleedingUranium]

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

I think we should have an IT thread MP weekend gathering at some point. I'm sure there are enough folks for each platform to make this happen.

Just thought I'd bump this because it's a good idea.

+1/ i'm on the PC

Yep, PC here.

360 for me.

PC here

360, but Banshee knows this

[Auralius Carolus]

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

demersel wrote...

And more over - even if it turns out not ot be true at some point, like all the devs together will make a statement "IT IS FALSE!!!" - why should we stop even then? We'll make up our own mass effect final. With blackjack. And hookers. 

And redneck duck hunters blowing Harvesters out of the sky with shotguns and laughing about it.

Them Reap'rs will ne'er take the South! Gitt'm boyz!

I ain't lettin' no one takin' no ending from me! It's my consia-constitusa- constitsion-uhhh.. American right!

No, not really. Nor natural, nor God-Given. You might be surprised at how philosophical we can be.

[Priss Blackburne]

bah wish I didn't have this crummy country wireless connection =(

[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

prettz wrote...

making a vid about Coats right now for the heck of it.

Make sure to add the EC stuff.

-He's the dead Marine that the Keeper pulls the helmet off of when you reach the Citadel. Which he couldn't be, because by the sound of his dialogue before Marauder Shields, he wasn't even in the beam run, or was very far back and now retreating.

-He's always in the very first slide of the slide show, being the most obvious there.

-These were both added in EC, so in the literal ending he's both alive and dead

-More to help with his indoctrinated-ness, he's also seen in the Synthesis ending, and only that one.

Prettz actually made the Coats Dead™ video. But your other pointers should prove useful.

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

Stealth pun

[Iconoclaste]

WandySilva wrote...

I completely agree that he would most likely see no fault in the action of synthesis, but I still struggle to grasp how shepard making it as far as he did proves that the rest of the galaxy is ready (wouldnt it only prove his worthiness if he is ``the only organic to make it this far``?). Perhaps creating the crucible and coming together as a galaxy is deemed as worthiness (it would explain why you need a certain ems to unlock synthesis). It still seems very arbitrary to me, and the lack of explaination for why it didnt work only adds to my suspicion.

Well, all endings had their philosophical "pitfalls" for many players, and I agree that Synthesis, especially if it's compared to what Shepard says in the "reject" ending, goes the hell against him. But since the Catalyst has its way inside Shepard's mind (at the very least to retrieve the kid's image, in the "literalist's" explanation), and since he / it seems to be a creature of  "consensus", the fact that this "cycle" sees the "unifying of forces" at last might be indicative of Shepard's "readyness" to be added as ingredient to the space-magic potion. Plus, he's already "half-synthetic" which makes him an experienced candidate.

[lex0r11]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

[TJBartlemus]

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

I think we should have an IT thread MP weekend gathering at some point. I'm sure there are enough folks for each platform to make this happen.

Just thought I'd bump this because it's a good idea.

+1/ i'm on the PC

Yep, PC here.

360 for me.

PC here - Turbo_J67

Xbox here- MidProduct08 However I will not be on for a few days because of move to Alaska.

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

Stealth pun

This one gets it!

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

prettz wrote...

making a vid about Coats right now for the heck of it.

Make sure to add the EC stuff.

-He's the dead Marine that the Keeper pulls the helmet off of when you reach the Citadel. Which he couldn't be, because by the sound of his dialogue before Marauder Shields, he wasn't even in the beam run, or was very far back and now retreating.

-He's always in the very first slide of the slide show, being the most obvious there.

-These were both added in EC, so in the literal ending he's both alive and dead

-More to help with his indoctrinated-ness, he's also seen in the Synthesis ending, and only that one.

Prettz actually made the Coats Dead™ video. But your other pointers should prove useful.

Ah okay. You showed it to me, and I didn't notice who made it.

[estebanus]

lex0r11 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

One of the reasons I prefer european countries over the US.

[Auralius Carolus]

estebanus wrote...
I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

I prefer long swords myself. But... have you ever shot one? Hmmmm?

You haven't lived until you've felt the blast wave off of magnum big-bore.

[I_eat_unicorns]

[quote]lex0r11 wrote...

[quote]De1ta G wrote...

[quote]I_eat_unicorns wrote...

[quote]kenudigit wrote...

Let it go it did not happen. I know you all want it to be an indoc but it did not happen live with it. [/quote]

This. People are in denial in this thread that it's so upsetting to see.

If anything, the dlc makes the IT theory improbable as hell. The IT theory makes it easy to address the plot holes that were created in the original ending. Bioware filled those in with new conversations, and gave joker a reason to leave the sol relay. How does the IT theory tie in with that? Or synthesis/control endings where the reapers actually HELP organics as synthetics/organics work together? 
[/quote]

Hi there,

Listen... maybe the IT is not true. Most likely it isn't. And BioWare probably won't use the idea either. The Extended Cut does indeed make it even less probable that the IT and almost proves that BioWare won't take the idea and make it true. And yes, maybe these people are in denial. But, I don't see any reason a need for this discussion to stop until BioWare officially states that the IT was never their intention and they will not be adding it to the game. Ever since the idea was formed, more and more points that favored the IT were made. It is very interesting to see what kinds of things people can come up with. Whether they are true or not is irrelevent. People are coming together, dicussing a game the love, and having fun doing it. Why should they stop?

[/quote]

The IT theory at face value imo, was an idea that built upon the loopholes presented in the original endings. It also gives Bioware too much credit for the endings, and that fans were able to come up with a more unique ending than Bioware. 

Again, it's easy to become immersed in the IT theory when looking at it in detail, but Bioware wouldn't have given us an extended cut dlc if people didn't complain about the endings. Now that it's out and the fact that it's free shows that they want to make up for it. I feel that people hoarding around the IT theory is insulting to Bioware since this dlc gave me a satisfying closure we were all promised. Appreciating their own work is what a fan should do, not cling on to a debunked "theory" that is improbable through the dlc they have provided us. That's insulting as the fans want their own endings in their own way and don't appreciate the work Bioware has done through money/time since it is a FREE dlc. 


I think its time that fans "wake up" and realize that shepard never had to "wake up" in the first place.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

Why not both?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 05 juillet 2012 - 05:38 .

[Nightingale]

De1ta G wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

kenudigit wrote...

Let it go it did not happen. I know you all want it to be an indoc but it did not happen live with it.

This. People are in denial in this thread that it's so upsetting to see.

If anything, the dlc makes the IT theory improbable as hell. The IT theory makes it easy to address the plot holes that were created in the original ending. Bioware filled those in with new conversations, and gave joker a reason to leave the sol relay. How does the IT theory tie in with that? Or synthesis/control endings where the reapers actually HELP organics as synthetics/organics work together? 

Hi there,

Listen... maybe the IT is not true. Most likely it isn't. And BioWare probably won't use the idea either. The Extended Cut does indeed make it even less probable that the IT and almost proves that BioWare won't take the idea and make it true. And yes, maybe these people are in denial. But, I don't see any reason a need for this discussion to stop until BioWare officially states that the IT was never their intention and they will not be adding it to the game. Ever since the idea was formed, more and more points that favored the IT were made. It is very interesting to see what kinds of things people can come up with. Whether they are true or not is irrelevent. People are coming together, dicussing a game the love, and having fun doing it. Why should they stop?

They eat unicorns, I don't think their argument about "peace" is valid

Anyway, for one, it's IT. "IT theory" is redundant. For another, the EC not only did not adress some plot holes, it created others that weren't previously there, all while giving more evidence to IT. And to answer your question, since you seem so insistent, IT ties in the same now as it always did. It has not changed. Going by IT, Control and Synthesis isn't about the Reapers "helping," it's about Shepard giving him/herself over to indoctrination; they are showing Shepard what she wants to see.
Now, if you persist in distracting us from enjoying our speculation, I'm going to have to refer you to this:
www.youtube.com/watch

Edit: Well, I'm very late for this. My PC decided to crash halfway through typing, had a longer post and had to redo it...and apparently missed the unicorn-murderer leaving in the process

Modifié par DrTsoni, 05 juillet 2012 - 05:43 .

[lex0r11]

estebanus wrote...


[...]


One of the reasons I prefer european countries over the US.

Aaww, come on. It's not all bad. Only half of it is bad, just like every country in Europe has its bad parts.

I know what I'm talking about.

Modifié par lex0r11, 05 juillet 2012 - 05:42 .

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

One of the reasons I prefer european countries over the US.

Remember, guns are just tools. If I wanted to kill someone I could do it with just about any object in my house. Or nothing but my hands. I've always found it odd gun control is thought of as left wing, and people having guns as right wing, because every other case I can think of, left is more individual freedoms, and right is more government control. Hell, even just plain bad things like drugs, left wing, so you can't even argue it's because guns are "bad". Gun politics are so backwards

[Nightingale]

Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

I think we should have an IT thread MP weekend gathering at some point. I'm sure there are enough folks for each platform to make this happen.

Just thought I'd bump this because it's a good idea.

+1/ i'm on the PC

Yep, PC here.

360 for me.

PC here - Turbo_J67

PS3
Finding more reasons to go back to PC by the day...

[estebanus]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

I prefer long swords myself. But... have you ever shot one? Hmmmm?

You haven't lived until you've felt the blast wave off of magnum big-bore.

 

Sure. I've shot a cal. 45'er pistol, although that was because I was allowed to take part in my sister's shooting training (she's in the military, you see). All i've got to say is that it's not a smart idea to hold it with one hand. it hurts. a lot. 

It took a few ours, but I nded up becoming quite hany with single-handed pistols. you just need the right stance.

[Rosewind]

LEX0R!!! YOU!!

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

Why not both?

You got it, too! 
Damn, this place is smart, isn't it?

[I_eat_unicorns]

 I tried typing this earlier, but it was in a quote for some reason.

The IT theory at face value imo, was an idea that built upon the loopholes presented in the original endings. It also gives Bioware too much credit for the endings, and that fans were able to come up with a more unique ending than Bioware. 

Again, it's easy to become immersed in the IT theory when looking at it in detail, but Bioware wouldn't have given us an extended cut dlc if people didn't complain about the endings. Now that it's out and the fact that it's free shows that they want to make up for it. I feel that people hoarding around the IT theory is insulting to Bioware since this dlc gave me a satisfying closure we were all promised. Appreciating their own work is what a fan should do, not cling on to a debunked "theory" that is improbable through the dlc they have provided us. That's insulting as the fans want their own endings in their own way and don't appreciate the work Bioware has done through money/time since it is a FREE dlc. 


I think its time that fans "wake up" and realize that shepard never had to "wake up" in the first place. 

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

Why not both?

And to continue the theme, put the blade on it

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 05 juillet 2012 - 05:43 .

[estebanus]

lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...


[...]


One of the reasons I prefer european countries over the US.

Aaww, come on. It's not all bad. Only half of it is bad, just like every country in Europe has its bad parts.

I know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, you're right. But I myself have seen how bad it is when inexperienced idiots try holding guns as if they knew what they were doing.

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I can't at the moment. I'm in the USA right now without Skype or ME3! 

Well where are you from then?

I'm a danish-american who lives in Germany. I'm currently visiting my grandparents with my brother and sister here in the USA.

Well come on over the Southern VA. We'll go shooting! Things are a lot looser around this neck of the woods. Groundhogs, aluminum cans, bottles... husks, whatever!

I'm not a big fan of guns. I'm more of a swordsman, myself, and I'm part of a group that organizes renessaince fairs in Denmark and northern Germany, so no thank you. I'd rather have a claymore than a shotgun!!

Why not both?

You got it, too! 
Damn, this place is smart, isn't it?

Well, we are brothers, Banshee and I