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[Arian Dynas]

And for the record, not to be nasty about it, but I have been carpetbombing this thread and it's predecessor with walls of text since page 299.

This is not a new phenomenon.

[Arian Dynas]

And I will say this, sorry for snapping Dr.Tsoni. But your timing could not have been worse -.-

And one way or another, enjoy, I do this for you guys after all.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:03 .

[BansheeOwnage]

So how about that idoctrination?

[Nightingale]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

OK, it's safe now.

Hey arian, I googled indoctrination theory and found this:

I found yours too. I thought it was creepy.

I'd say "you're indoctrinated" again, but I repeat myself enough for the trolls so...maybe you're just famous

Arian Dynas wrote...
This script was born in speculation TJ.
This was originally a method of proving the point that the EC could
reveal IT even without additonal gameplay, which, when it was "revealed"
there would be gameplay, I did anyway to amuse the members of the IT
thread and keep up morale. 

Now it's instead become; "Well what if this is a future DLC?"

Though,
I have since discarded that idea, simply because this is far too clunky
a method to reveal IT now, since they already mucked with the ending
once.

What I would do at this point would be a post ending DLC,
perhaps Shepard waking up in a hospital, reveal everything in flashback,
or perhaps explore some point in Shepard's past, claiming,only to
reveal that he's still in London and that everything we saw was a
twisted nightmare.

I'm still in the process of reading it, but I don't think they'd do another DLC dealing strictly with the ending. They could do it in ME4 if they wanted, though. Maybe (as you said) Shepard waking up in the hospital and then continuing the fight, with this as a flashback at the beginning?

[ZeogYoru vas Tasi]

And I have returned once more.

Anything new backing the IT?

[TJBartlemus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So how about that idoctrination?

idoctrination???  spelling errors. Gotta love them.

[byne]

Arian Dynas got the first post on page 1600. That makes him correct in his argument.

Also, I am on his side, and I'm the ThreadMaster™

[lex0r11]

Arian Dynas wrote...

And for the record, not to be nasty about it, but I have been carpetbombing this thread and it's predecessor with walls of text since page 299.

This is not a new phenomenon.

[Simon_Says]

TJBartlemus wrote...

idoctrination???  spelling errors. Gotta love them.

If Steve Jobs was still alive to market it I'm sure it'd sell like hotcakes.

[BansheeOwnage]

TJBartlemus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So how about that idoctrination?

idoctrination???  spelling errors. Gotta love them.

You only brought that up because it's the first one I've made

[BansheeOwnage]

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

And for the record, not to be nasty about it, but I have been carpetbombing this thread and it's predecessor with walls of text since page 299.

This is not a new phenomenon.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas got the first post on page 1600. That makes him correct in his argument.

Also, I am on his side, and I'm the ThreadMaster™

I still prefer Creator-Byne™

Edit: I'm actually surprised I didn't get the first post...again.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:09 .

[TJBartlemus]

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

And for the record, not to be nasty about it, but I have been carpetbombing this thread and it's predecessor with walls of text since page 299.

This is not a new phenomenon.

It was only time before it happened.  That is priceless. Also Arian I wasn't attacking you earlier. Just curious. Maybe it's my avatar that makes it look like I'm angry all the time?? 

[tkeloise]

Hi everyone! De-lurking for the first time. I've been thinking on Starbinger's 'inevitability of conflict between organics and synthetics' argument. Why did a number of people accept that logic even though EDI and the geth proved it false?

Synthetics vs organics is one of the biggest themes in science fiction. If you're a fan of sci fi, chances are you'll have seen at least one franchise that pits man against machine. From pop culture it has been drilled into our heads that synthetics cannot be trusted and will turn on us. Some people, including me, just accepted it as a fact – to the point where I dislike my microwave because it seems to be arrogant. I was suspicious of EDI at the beginning of ME2 simply because she was an AI.

And if the seemingly all-powerful Catalyst raises the argument that synthetics will inevitably try to destroy organics, most people will go “Huh. He has a point there.” I know that's what my initial thought was, even though I completely distrusted and loathed Starbinger. Ironically enough, one of ME2's greatest successes was turning that trope upside down, and it was continued in ME3. It seems like Starbinger was manipulating the preconceived notion many sci fi fans have – another instance of manipulating the player.

Thoughts?
And great job Arian with your ending script. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

Edit: Formatting.

Modifié par ellagne, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:11 .

[Nightingale]

Arian Dynas wrote...

And I will say this, sorry for snapping Dr.Tsoni. But your timing could not have been worse -.-

And one way or another, enjoy, I do this for you guys after all.

Oh, don't worry about it. I didn't take it personally, you were right to be annoyed. I seem to have notoriously bad timing so I still think I should be the one apologizing.

In any case, ThreadMaster™ takes your side and I can't argue with that

[Fingertrip]

Anything new that has surfaced, or is it just irrelevant posts going on?

Comic-con looks to be abit of a minor disapointment, with the fact they're going to showcase the new multiplayer DLC only, from what I've seen. Hope people come with good questions

[ThisOneIsPunny]

DrTsoni wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Thanks Arualius. And did anybody come and try to disprove IT again.

Of course. Same ol' junk.

*show evidence*
*discreditted as bug, sloppy design, or impossible through literal interpretation, etc.*
*sicks Vladmir Checrov, the drunk Russian with a paddle, on the troll*

Good golly that bothers me.
It's like those same people don't even realize that one of the more emotional parts of Mass Effect 3 was born from a bug. You know, that moment when everything goes into slow motion and you betray Mordin, ultimately sabotaging the cure, by shooting him? That was a bug and they kept it in the game. So if the team decided to keep that in for added effect, how many other "bugs" did they keep in, too?

That was a fairly small bug compared to, you know, an entire detailed theory Sure some of it may be simple glitches but there's too much evidence for it all to be a mistake they ended up liking.

Of course, I don't mean the whole theory or all of the evidence. That's just. The chances of all of that being a mistake just isn't possible. But I mean, looking at things like the weapon bobbing or, I don't know what do anti-IT people like to call a bug the most, and just dismissing it as a bug with no further thought of it being possible is just... it disappoints me.

[TJBartlemus]

Fingertrip wrote...

Anything new that has surfaced, or is it just irrelevant posts going on?

Comic-con looks to be abit of a minor disapointment, with the fact they're going to showcase the new multiplayer DLC only, from what I've seen. Hope people come with good questions

Well Arian posted an amazing script that I'm sure took forever to write. Just to get all the ideas down and in the right way is tough. 

Well most of us already expected mp dlc next, just by all the leaks before EC. Now after EC I'm sure the leviathan DLC is next after the mp.

[L0NEWOLF25]

Fingertrip wrote...

Anything new that has surfaced, or is it just irrelevant posts going on?

Comic-con looks to be abit of a minor disapointment, with the fact they're going to showcase the new multiplayer DLC only, from what I've seen. Hope people come with good questions

I did post something, but people seemed to have been paying more attention to arian's post. I'll post it again here.

"I just thought of this, what if the memorial scene at the end with your squad is meant to represent shepards mind? If you pick destory you stuck to your guns and choose right, so your LI doesn't put your name up. If you pick control or synthesis you lost the fight and your mind to the reapers thus you are put on the wall since you are basically dead. "

Modifié par L0NEWOLF25, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:14 .

[Nightingale]

Fingertrip wrote...

Anything new that has surfaced, or is it just irrelevant posts going on?

Comic-con looks to be abit of a minor disapointment, with the fact they're going to showcase the new multiplayer DLC only, from what I've seen. Hope people come with good questions

Oh? That is a tad disappointing. I thought they'd be showing something for the Leviathan DLC.

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
Of course, I don't mean the whole theory or all of the evidence. That's just. The chances of all of that being a mistake just isn't possible. But I mean, looking at things like the weapon bobbing or, I don't know what do anti-IT people like to call a bug the most, and just dismissing it as a bug with no further thought of it being possible is just... it disappoints me.

I agree. I can see where the literalists are coming from, but not when they're blatently anti-IT. There's just too much evidence. Even the weapon bob isn't a glitch, since they'd have to add that in to begin with.

Edit: Stupid formatting...

Modifié par DrTsoni, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:15 .

[BansheeOwnage]

ellagne wrote...

Hi everyone! De-lurking for the first time. I've been thinking on Starbinger's 'inevitability of conflict between organics and synthetics' argument. Why did a number of people accept that logic even though EDI and the geth proved it false?

Synthetics vs organics is one of the biggest themes in science fiction. If you're a fan of sci fi, chances are you'll have seen at least one franchise that pits man against machine. From pop culture it has been drilled into our heads that synthetics cannot be trusted and will turn on us. Some people, including me, just accepted it as a fact – to the point where I dislike my microwave because it seems to be arrogant. I was suspicious of EDI at the beginning of ME2 simply because she was an AI.

And if the seemingly all-powerful Catalyst raises the argument that synthetics will inevitably try to destroy organics, most people will go “Huh. He has a point there.” I know that's what my initial thought was, even though I completely distrusted and loathed Starbinger. Ironically enough, one of ME2's greatest successes was turning that trope upside down, and it was continued in ME3. It seems like Starbinger was manipulating the preconceived notion many sci fi fans have – another instance of manipulating the player.

Thoughts?
And great job Arian with your ending script. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png

Edit: Formatting.

Yes it's amazing so many people just seemed to forget everything ME1/2/nine-thenths-of-ME3 tought us. 
Starchild:  "I am a child and you will trust me."
Shepard:  "Oh okay."

That's actually another condradiction of the starkid's too.
"Conflict between synthetics and organics in inevitable."
"Now that we know it is possible, it is inevitable we will reach synthesis."
So it's inevitable that there will be conflict between synthetics and organics but also eternal peace?

Seems legit.

[noobcannon]

okay maybe this has been brought up, but i just got back on the forums and havent seen it mentioned; when you teleport onto the citadel in EC it cuts to a scene of hacket saying something like "son of a **** did it." but then he says, "were getting reports that SOMEONE made it onto the citadel" or something. what if anderson is that actual someone who made it while your lying buried back in london? again sorry if this is old but this thread has doubled since i was last on.

[lex0r11]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas got the first post on page 1600. That makes him correct in his argument.

Also, I am on his side, and I'm the ThreadMaster™

I still prefer Creator-Byne™

Edit: I'm actually surprised I didn't get the first post...again.

Maybe I should tell you something about first posts on pages..

[Arian Dynas]

DrTsoni wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
This script was born in speculation TJ.
This was originally a method of proving the point that the EC could
reveal IT even without additonal gameplay, which, when it was "revealed"
there would be gameplay, I did anyway to amuse the members of the IT
thread and keep up morale. 

Now it's instead become; "Well what if this is a future DLC?"

Though,
I have since discarded that idea, simply because this is far too clunky
a method to reveal IT now, since they already mucked with the ending
once.

What I would do at this point would be a post ending DLC,
perhaps Shepard waking up in a hospital, reveal everything in flashback,
or perhaps explore some point in Shepard's past, claiming,only to
reveal that he's still in London and that everything we saw was a
twisted nightmare.

I'm still in the process of reading it, but I don't think they'd do another DLC dealing strictly with the ending. They could do it in ME4 if they wanted, though. Maybe (as you said) Shepard waking up in the hospital and then continuing the fight, with this as a flashback at the beginning?

Personally, I would expect something far more disturbing and lovecraftian.

Picture this;

Shepard wakes up in a hospital, the DLC having opened up the Legendsave, enabling you to play from after your choice, depending on what you chose, things are slightly different, perhaps now they have the Indoctrination, loss of control mechanic working, and if you chose Control or synthesis you might occasionally lose control of Shepard's actions, perhaps you start hallucinating the moment you get out of bed, doctors morphing into Reaper soldiers before your eyes, or if you chose Destroy and broke free, you have to fend off an attack with one of your squadmates, your LI beside you from a visit, wondering why the hell you are acting so weird and seem completely delusional.

[TJBartlemus]

noobcannon wrote...

okay maybe this has been brought up, but i just got back on the forums and havent seen it mentioned; when you teleport onto the citadel in EC it cuts to a scene of hacket saying something like "son of a **** did it." but then he says, "were getting reports that SOMEONE made it onto the citadel" or something. what if anderson is that actual someone who made it while your lying buried back in london? again sorry if this is old but this thread has doubled since i was last on.

Could be...could be...