Ce sujet est fermé
lex0r11 wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
I still prefer Creator-Byne™byne wrote...
Arian Dynas got the first post on page 1600. That makes him correct in his argument.
Also, I am on his side, and I'm the ThreadMaster™
Edit: I'm actually surprised I didn't get the first post...again.
Maybe I should tell you something about first posts on pages..
Okay.
Ha, never thought of it like thatBansheeOwnage wrote...
Yes it's amazing so many people just seemed to forget everything ME1/2/nine-thenths-of-ME3 tought us.
Starchild: "I am a child and you will trust me."
Shepard: "Oh okay."
That's actually another condradiction of the starkid's too.
"Conflict between synthetics and organics in inevitable."
"Now that we know it is possible, it is inevitable we will reach synthesis."
So it's inevitable that there will be conflict between synthetics and organics but also eternal peace?
Seems legit.
Modifié par Arian Dynas, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:21 .
lex0r11 wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
I still prefer Creator-Byne™byne wrote...
Arian Dynas got the first post on page 1600. That makes him correct in his argument.
Also, I am on his side, and I'm the ThreadMaster™
Edit: I'm actually surprised I didn't get the first post...again.
Maybe I should tell you something about first posts on pages..
byne wrote...
You missed page 1000 this time!
1714 will be the 4000th page if you combine both threads, so be there for it!
Yeah that makes sense to me. I mean Shepard knows (s)he'll "die" by choosing synthesis or control but not destroy. So it makes sense to see it in her/his head.L0NEWOLF25 wrote...
Fingertrip wrote...
Anything new that has surfaced, or is it just irrelevant posts going on?
Comic-con looks to be abit of a minor disapointment, with the fact they're going to showcase the new multiplayer DLC only, from what I've seen. Hope people come with good questions
I did post something, but people seemed to have been paying more attention to arian's post. I'll post it again here.
"I just thought of this, what if the memorial scene at the end with your squad is meant to represent shepards mind? If you pick destory you stuck to your guns and choose right, so your LI doesn't put your name up. If you pick control or synthesis you lost the fight and your mind to the reapers thus you are put on the wall since you are basically dead. "
ellagne wrote...
Hi everyone! De-lurking for the first time. I've been thinking on Starbinger's 'inevitability of conflict between organics and synthetics' argument. Why did a number of people accept that logic even though EDI and the geth proved it false?
Synthetics vs organics is one of the biggest themes in science fiction. If you're a fan of sci fi, chances are you'll have seen at least one franchise that pits man against machine. From pop culture it has been drilled into our heads that synthetics cannot be trusted and will turn on us. Some people, including me, just accepted it as a fact – to the point where I dislike my microwave because it seems to be arrogant. I was suspicious of EDI at the beginning of ME2 simply because she was an AI.
And if the seemingly all-powerful Catalyst raises the argument that synthetics will inevitably try to destroy organics, most people will go “Huh. He has a point there.” I know that's what my initial thought was, even though I completely distrusted and loathed Starbinger. Ironically enough, one of ME2's greatest successes was turning that trope upside down, and it was continued in ME3. It seems like Starbinger was manipulating the preconceived notion many sci fi fans have – another instance of manipulating the player.
Thoughts?
And great job Arian with your ending script. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png
Edit: Formatting.
Arian Dynas wrote...
Personally, I would expect something far more disturbing and lovecraftian.
Picture this;
Shepard wakes up in a hospital, the DLC having opened up the Legendsave, enabling you to play from after your choice, depending on what you chose, things are slightly different, perhaps now they have the Indoctrination, loss of control mechanic working, and if you chose Control or synthesis you might occasionally lose control of Shepard's actions, perhaps you start hallucinating the moment you get out of bed, doctors morphing into Reaper soldiers before your eyes, or if you chose Destroy and broke free, you have to fend off an attack with one of your squadmates, your LI beside you from a visit, wondering why the hell you are acting so weird and seem completely delusional.
Modifié par DrTsoni, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:28 .
Arian Dynas wrote...
DrTsoni wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
This script was born in speculation TJ.
This was originally a method of proving the point that the EC could
reveal IT even without additonal gameplay, which, when it was "revealed"
there would be gameplay, I did anyway to amuse the members of the IT
thread and keep up morale.
Now it's instead become; "Well what if this is a future DLC?"
Though,
I have since discarded that idea, simply because this is far too clunky
a method to reveal IT now, since they already mucked with the ending
once.
What I would do at this point would be a post ending DLC,
perhaps Shepard waking up in a hospital, reveal everything in flashback,
or perhaps explore some point in Shepard's past, claiming,only to
reveal that he's still in London and that everything we saw was a
twisted nightmare.
I'm still in the process of reading it, but I don't think they'd do another DLC dealing strictly with the ending. They could do it in ME4 if they wanted, though. Maybe (as you said) Shepard waking up in the hospital and then continuing the fight, with this as a flashback at the beginning?
Personally, I would expect something far more disturbing and lovecraftian.
Picture this;
Shepard wakes up in a hospital, the DLC having opened up the Legendsave, enabling you to play from after your choice, depending on what you chose, things are slightly different, perhaps now they have the Indoctrination, loss of control mechanic working, and if you chose Control or synthesis you might occasionally lose control of Shepard's actions, perhaps you start hallucinating the moment you get out of bed, doctors morphing into Reaper soldiers before your eyes, or if you chose Destroy and broke free, you have to fend off an attack with one of your squadmates, your LI beside you from a visit, wondering why the hell you are acting so weird and seem completely delusional.
Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, thanks guys.
Rosewind wrote...
Whats going on?
DrTsoni wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
Personally, I would expect something far more disturbing and lovecraftian.
Picture this;
Shepard wakes up in a hospital, the DLC having opened up the Legendsave, enabling you to play from after your choice, depending on what you chose, things are slightly different, perhaps now they have the Indoctrination, loss of control mechanic working, and if you chose Control or synthesis you might occasionally lose control of Shepard's actions, perhaps you start hallucinating the moment you get out of bed, doctors morphing into Reaper soldiers before your eyes, or if you chose Destroy and broke free, you have to fend off an attack with one of your squadmates, your LI beside you from a visit, wondering why the hell you are acting so weird and seem completely delusional.
That would actually be pretty cool. Especially if the LI is forced to turn on you in Control and Synthesis. Even if nothing happens, that'd be a shocking turn of events.
Hey guys, thanks for the replies, and sorry for responding so late. I asked the question because I'm doing a video analysis of the Extended cut endings and I was wondering if I missed anything new in regards to the Indoctrination theory.L0NEWOLF25 wrote...
niravital wrote...
paxxton wrote...
What about the Catalyst's voice anomaly and twinkling?BleedingUranium wrote...
FreddyCast wrote...
Can someone give me a quick list of all the new possible evidences for the IT found in the Extended Cut so far?
Five come to mind, though I know there are more.
-The entire Normandy pickup scene is absolutely ridiculous for a lot of reasons
-They kept the galaxy scene showing the beam starting in the Viper Nebula, where Rho, the start of Shep's indoc was, and the relay there doesn't exist anymore
-In the added scene with the two soliders, in Control and Synthesis they fail against the husks, but in Destroy they do way better (as in, Destroy is better)
-Coats is the dead soldier the Keeper takes the helmet off of, but this is both impossible, and can only be seen in fly cam. At the same time, they also put Coats in the first slide of the slideshow, and in Synthesis.
-In the Destroy ending, your LI doesn't actually put your name on the wall (goes with breath scene)
-Also important is that I don't think we lost a single piece of IT evidence in EC
Yep, the "so be it".
There is also this Reaper-talking sound before Harbi shoots his laser ("serves us/save us/follow us/come with us")
And the weird way Shep wakes up (and that sound) when he gets to the Citadel.
Shep starts to talk in Reaper tone in control epilogue.
I don't think the Normandy pick up necessarily qualifies because it's prior to the laser-of-dreams...
counter stuff:
- Squad resurrected/teleported to Normandy.
- Why would Joker leave.
- Relays not exploding so no one starves to death.
I IMO think the normandy pickup is a big part of the IT, If harbinger keeps the normandy intact and just let's it fly away it'll give Shephard a reason to try and save more people (EDI) by not picking destory. If harbinger shot it down why would shepard care if he picked destory since there aren't any synthetics left to save, unless you have the geth on your side in which case the reapers would have even more leverage against shepard.
TJBartlemus wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, thanks guys.
No probs. Nothing but support here for ya. I'm just glad that the people here are more open minded than some of those out in the other threads. It's almost like a war and there are little skirmishes everywhere. Then BioWare swoops in and saves the day...
Out of everyone Arian, I feel that you are one of the best writers here. And we have some pretty good writers here in this thread. So anyway. High five*
noobcannon wrote...
okay maybe this has been brought up, but i just got back on the forums and havent seen it mentioned; when you teleport onto the citadel in EC it cuts to a scene of hacket saying something like "son of a **** did it." but then he says, "were getting reports that SOMEONE made it onto the citadel" or something. what if anderson is that actual someone who made it while your lying buried back in london? again sorry if this is old but this thread has doubled since i was last on.
Arian Dynas wrote...
Hell, I'd buy it (maybe later I'll write a script for it, muhwahwa) and it WOULD finally explain the purpose of the Legensave, which we have yet to discern apparently.
D.Sharrah wrote...
Ok...back after a week...it seems the thread has given birth to a couple hundred pages while I have been away. Anything groundbreaking in the last week?
Modifié par DrTsoni, 06 juillet 2012 - 03:32 .
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yes it's amazing so many people just seemed to forget everything ME1/2/nine-thenths-of-ME3 tought us.
Starchild: "I am a child and you will trust me."
Shepard: "Oh okay."
That's actually another condradiction of the starkid's too.
"Conflict between synthetics and organics in inevitable."
"Now that we know it is possible, it is inevitable we will reach synthesis."
So it's inevitable that there will be conflict between synthetics and organics but also eternal peace?
Seems legit.
FreddyCast wrote...
Hey guys, thanks for the replies, and sorry for responding so late. I asked the question because I'm doing a video analysis of the Extended cut endings and I was wondering if I missed anything new in regards to the Indoctrination theory.
I'm very interested in this "Coats" thing. Does anyone have a link to this, so I can see it for myself?
Vaya wrote...
noobcannon wrote...
okay maybe this has been brought up, but i just got back on the forums and havent seen it mentioned; when you teleport onto the citadel in EC it cuts to a scene of hacket saying something like "son of a **** did it." but then he says, "were getting reports that SOMEONE made it onto the citadel" or something. what if anderson is that actual someone who made it while your lying buried back in london? again sorry if this is old but this thread has doubled since i was last on.
It hasn't really been talked about, but it is clearly unclear who exactly Hacket thinks made it to the beam, and then the Citadel magically opens ....
DrTsoni wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
Ok...back after a week...it seems the thread has given birth to a couple hundred pages while I have been away. Anything groundbreaking in the last week?
Nothing super amazing that I can recall, but Arian wrote up another script on page 1599. Can't miss it, it's the Great Wall of Text.
Oh, and welcome back
FixedDrTsoni wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
Ok...back after a week...it seems the thread has given birth to a couple hundred pages while I have been away. Anything groundbreaking in the last week?
Nothing super amazing that I can recall, but Arian wrote up another script on page 1599. Can't miss it, it's the Great Wall of Text™.
Oh, and welcome back
lex0r11 wrote...
Rosewind wrote...
Whats going on?
Retour en haut
