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HellishFiend wrote...
Plus, add that to all the other Coats oddities... infrasound, unskippable dialog, shown in every ending sequence... it adds up to something very fishy.
HellishFiend wrote...
Coats is on the Citadel on purpose, you can be sure. It's the only time in the entire series, to my knowledge, that we ever *see* a helmet come off of a head. I'm sure that particular head wasnt chosen at random...
Plus, add that to all the other Coats oddities... infrasound, unskippable dialog, shown in every ending sequence... it adds up to something very fishy.
FreddyCast wrote...
My mind has been BLOWN.Vaya wrote...
FreddyCast wrote...
Hey guys, thanks for the replies, and sorry for responding so late. I asked the question because I'm doing a video analysis of the Extended cut endings and I was wondering if I missed anything new in regards to the Indoctrination theory.
I'm very interested in this "Coats" thing. Does anyone have a link to this, so I can see it for myself?
This is definitely going into my analysis. Stay tuned.
Auralius Carolus wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Plus, add that to all the other Coats oddities... infrasound, unskippable dialog, shown in every ending sequence... it adds up to something very fishy.
Did you hear that? Over by the pond?
Run for it boys, the Olympic Reaper Shark is back!
Well my Shepbinger would tell Liara she's Spacegod™. As for the Shep coming back for Liara, you actually live, in corporeal form, in destroy either way so that's reason enough for me to pick itDrTsoni wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
You raise some valid points. And it seems stupid to me to have the option to save the Geth (even over the Quarians) and then have to kill them anyway. I know that's destroy only but it brings me back to something else I thought of:DrTsoni wrote...
leonia42 wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
Oh and is it weird that in Destroy we don't see Synthetics being created since the Catalyst said " Soon your children will create Synthetics and the Cycle will start all over again."
Nor do we see synthetics destroyed other than the Reapers which is a big "Hey wait wasn't the EC supposed to clarify big things like that?" sort of deal. We don't actually see EDI or the geth being disabled/destroyed. It's heavily implied but it's not shown. Why not, they added lots of other clarifying bits like the Normandy's escape and Hackett knowing that Shepard is on the Citadel, why not be clear about the consequences to Destroy?
In theory, EDI isn't "dead" in the way that Destroy defines her as. Not all technology is destroyed and, since EDI is the Normandy in addition to being the rogue Luna AI, she shouldn't have been completely obliterated. I was under the impression the Geth and EDI were destroyed because of their Reaper code, but both could survive without. I could be wrong, in which case, please correct me, but it just seems off that not only do they not show the Geth (or EDI) dying when they clearly could have several times (such as on Earth with the Husks or in the slideshow), they don't even mention it in the "epilogue." Hackett saying they suffered many loses is too vague to know for sure. EDI's name on the wall could even be disputed.
Also, why did Hackett know Shepard made it onto the Citadel? Coats still says everyone was wiped out...
There are no choices in a literal ending.
Here's my logic. In a literal POV, there is refuse (you lose), destroy (you win but kill lots of people), control (you win, don't kill anyone and become Spacegod™) and synthesis (you win, achieve eternal peace for everyone in the galaxy, and create utopia 2.0).
Think about that...
It goes from rufuse (worst) to synthesis (best). That isn't a choice. That's "pick the obvious best one lol". Everyone get what mean here?
It was probably meant to be our choices having consequences but I agree, it wasn't the best way to do it. And yes, the way they portray the endings definitely doesn't leave much room for "choice."
Though admittedly, assuming a literal ending, I prefer Control to Synthesis. Probably just because I'm a sucker for the whole Shepard promising to always come back to Liara...only to have her become a Reaper and continue to watch over her, though Liara doesn't know it.
Also, Shepard's Reaper voice is kind of hot...
Simon_Says wrote...
NO! NO! BAD ARIAN!Arian Dynas wrote...
Yeah, if you keep stroking, something will explode and make a white gooey mess.
We stay classy in this forum, y'hear!
TJBartlemus wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Coats is on the Citadel on purpose, you can be sure. It's the only time in the entire series, to my knowledge, that we ever *see* a helmet come off of a head. I'm sure that particular head wasnt chosen at random...
Plus, add that to all the other Coats oddities... infrasound, unskippable dialog, shown in every ending sequence... it adds up to something very fishy.
Yes that may be. Just have to figure out why he is important. In all reality he doesn't make much of a impact to the story.
Simon_Says wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
*Shut up and take my money!*
What, nothing about Turvess and the raloi?
Mass Effect 3: Chicken Dance?
"The Normandy recieves a call from Turvess. The Council's research and diplomatic team at Turvess are trying to convince the raloi to join the galactic war effort, but the raloi insist on hiding and have kicked the aliens off their planet. Shepard and co. go to convince the raloi that they must join.
But another call comes in. The reapers are coming. You'll be faced with a tough choice...
You can convince the raloi to allow an evacuation effort to get as many raloi off Turvess as possible before the reapers destroy their planet. Their contribution to the war effort will be slim, and their world will forever lie in ruins. But if this cycle stands victorious, the raloi will be heroes. But that will be little comfort to them.
Or you can divert the council's fleet to retreat beyond the mass relay in the nearby system and destroy the relay. The raloi will be safe, for the moment. But they will again be alone in the universe. Possibly forever. But if this cycle fails, then the raloi will know of the enemy that destroyed a galaxy, and will have a full cycle to prepare and emerge victorious.
The choice, as always, is yours."
Arian Dynas wrote...
So now it seems if I want Gamble to give me that job with the big BW I've got FOUR DLCs to write scripts for.
For your collective amusement, and a bit of fun;
Mass Effect: Awakening - Two weeks. It's been two weeks since the Seige of Earth. Two long, hard weeks.
They found you. Barely alive, your body torn and burned, your armor shredded, your mind nearly broken. In two weeks, the allied forces have been able to recover. The Crucible saved you in your darkest hour.
But while the front lines may have left you behind, the war is far from over.
Play as either Shepard or a new character, exploring the mystery of the Commander's disappearance! Has the war truly come to an end? Is this cycle doomed?
Has our greatest champion fallen?
Mass Effect: Resurrection - The Reapers, seeking a more efficient method of controlling their troops in combat, have
begun work on a new project, creating a new type of ground troop, derived from multiple species, Human, Turian,
Batarian and several others. The purpose of this new soldier? To act as a ground infantry commander, allowing their
forces to more efficiently co-ordinate without constant Reaper supervision.
Your mission? Get into the defiled and horrific Reaper laboratory and kill the guarding Destroyer, blowing up the lab and killing the protoype.
And you arrive just in time... for the protoype to defect. It's guiding intelligence, repurposed from a collected Reaper
memory core, chose to defy it's masters and now seeks asylum.
The name of this intelligence guiding this Frankenstenian body made from the remains of Turians, Humans and Asari?
Saren Arterius.
Mass Effect: Firebird - The Alliance has received a number of disturbing reports about a small planet on the far end of the Terminus Systems, the small orbiting blue orb known as Herodotus. Cerberus, in their constant search for Prothean technology, have set up a base, which up to this point had gone largely unnoticed.
Under orders from the Illusive Man, Project Phoenix had begun work here, their mission, to take recovered Prothean tech and integrate it into studies of transhuman enhancement, creating amazingly powerful biotics.
At least, so Alliance Intelligence thought from the reports received from Cerberus defectors in the Phoenix program. In reality the truth was far darker. Cerberus had discovered a thus far unprecedented number of intact, Prothean stasis pods, leading them to preform tests, and eventually genetic experiments, splicing Prothean DNA into Human bodies, shortening the lifespans of these volunteers considerably and leaving them requiring a constant flow of anti-rejection drugs, but vastly improving their biotic potential.
In response to the considerable threat, the Reapers, having now received word of Project Phoenix, have sent one of the last remaining Collector ships as a scout to seize the installation and prepare it for reaping.
Your mission? Infiltrate Project Phoenix, eliminate the Cerberus presence, allowing the Alliance to seize the base, rescue and evacuate the Prothean population, and destroy the Collector Ship.
Mass Effect: Operation Neptune - A routine mission is what it should have been, should have being the operative word. Under orders from Admiral Hackett you picked up an asari ambassador, returning to the Citadel from negotiations with several mercenary groups, pick up and return, simple enough on it's own.
Well, the fact that the ambassador's name was Aethyta complicated things slightly.
Everything would have been fine had one of the matriarch's retinue not been a traitor. The Tantalus Drive Core, sabotaged. The Normandy? Dropped out of FTL in the most inconvenient place imaginable, waiting like a beached whale for a Reaper to find her. Of course Cerberus had far more direct plans for reclaiming their lost investment, in this case, Operation Neptune, the invasion of the Normandy.
Your mission? Fight off the Assassin attempting to murder you in your bed! Make your way to the Tantalus core and reactivate it! Rescue your crew! Discover the nature of the traitor! Fight off a Cerberus invasion of your own ship! Return to the Citadel and have an entire refit for the Normandy! New rooms! New features! New shipmates! And a new weapon!
masster blaster wrote...
" Are thoughs sharks, with freaking laser beams attached to their heads."
Do you get it.
Simon_Says wrote...
NO! NO! BAD ARIAN!Arian Dynas wrote...
Yeah, if you keep stroking, something will explode and make a white gooey mess.
We stay classy in this forum, y'hear!
Priss Blackburne wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
NO! NO! BAD ARIAN!Arian Dynas wrote...
Yeah, if you keep stroking, something will explode and make a white gooey mess.
We stay classy in this forum, y'hear!
Awww nuts...I'll go pack my things
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Well my Shepbinger would tell Liara she's Spacegod™. As for the Shep coming back for Liara, you actually live, in corporeal form, in destroy either way so that's reason enough for me to pick itDrTsoni wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
You raise some valid points. And it seems stupid to me to have the option to save the Geth (even over the Quarians) and then have to kill them anyway. I know that's destroy only but it brings me back to something else I thought of:DrTsoni wrote...
leonia42 wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
Oh and is it weird that in Destroy we don't see Synthetics being created since the Catalyst said " Soon your children will create Synthetics and the Cycle will start all over again."
Nor do we see synthetics destroyed other than the Reapers which is a big "Hey wait wasn't the EC supposed to clarify big things like that?" sort of deal. We don't actually see EDI or the geth being disabled/destroyed. It's heavily implied but it's not shown. Why not, they added lots of other clarifying bits like the Normandy's escape and Hackett knowing that Shepard is on the Citadel, why not be clear about the consequences to Destroy?
In theory, EDI isn't "dead" in the way that Destroy defines her as. Not all technology is destroyed and, since EDI is the Normandy in addition to being the rogue Luna AI, she shouldn't have been completely obliterated. I was under the impression the Geth and EDI were destroyed because of their Reaper code, but both could survive without. I could be wrong, in which case, please correct me, but it just seems off that not only do they not show the Geth (or EDI) dying when they clearly could have several times (such as on Earth with the Husks or in the slideshow), they don't even mention it in the "epilogue." Hackett saying they suffered many loses is too vague to know for sure. EDI's name on the wall could even be disputed.
Also, why did Hackett know Shepard made it onto the Citadel? Coats still says everyone was wiped out...
There are no choices in a literal ending.
Here's my logic. In a literal POV, there is refuse (you lose), destroy (you win but kill lots of people), control (you win, don't kill anyone and become Spacegod™) and synthesis (you win, achieve eternal peace for everyone in the galaxy, and create utopia 2.0).
Think about that...
It goes from rufuse (worst) to synthesis (best). That isn't a choice. That's "pick the obvious best one lol". Everyone get what mean here?
It was probably meant to be our choices having consequences but I agree, it wasn't the best way to do it. And yes, the way they portray the endings definitely doesn't leave much room for "choice."
Though admittedly, assuming a literal ending, I prefer Control to Synthesis. Probably just because I'm a sucker for the whole Shepard promising to always come back to Liara...only to have her become a Reaper and continue to watch over her, though Liara doesn't know it.
Also, Shepard's Reaper voice is kind of hot...
Of course, why I'd find that interesting, I'm not sure, since I hate soaps...
Harbinger: "YOUR SCALP WILL BE MINE. RELINQUISH YOUR HAIR TO US. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF THESE SCISSORS."DrTsoni wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
Barbinger. My worst nightmare for my barber. Now all I'm going to think when I get my hair cut is that Harbinger is doing it.
CUT ONE HAIR AND 100 WILL REPLACE IT.
Lol! I have nothing to add but I think you should know the next time I get my hair cut, this will be all I can think of.
Auralius Carolus wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Plus, add that to all the other Coats oddities... infrasound, unskippable dialog, shown in every ending sequence... it adds up to something very fishy.
Did you hear that? Over by the pond?
Run for it boys, the Olympic Reaper Shark is back!
HellishFiend wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
NO! NO! BAD ARIAN!Arian Dynas wrote...
Yeah, if you keep stroking, something will explode and make a white gooey mess.
We stay classy in this forum, y'hear!
Took the words right out of my mouth. Just because an opportunity so obviously presents itself doesnt make it tasteful.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Harbinger: "YOUR SCALP WILL BE MINE. RELINQUISH YOUR HAIR TO US. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF THESE SCISSORS."DrTsoni wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
Barbinger. My worst nightmare for my barber. Now all I'm going to think when I get my hair cut is that Harbinger is doing it.
CUT ONE HAIR AND 100 WILL REPLACE IT.
Lol! I have nothing to add but I think you should know the next time I get my hair cut, this will be all I can think of.
Shepard: "Oh s***!"
Woah. - NeoBleedingUranium wrote...
I just thought of an interesting comparison to Refuse while listening to music. In the Rise Against song "Collapse (Post-Amerika)" there's a line that goes "Neutrality means that you don't really care, cause the struggle goes on even when you're not there."
Modifié par Turbo_J, 06 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .
Modifié par leonia42, 06 juillet 2012 - 04:57 .
Turbo_J wrote...
Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.
A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.
This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...
I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?
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