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TJBartlemus wrote...

 Well off to bed guys. See ya tomarro!! -_-

See ya.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.

A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.

This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...

I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?


Yeah I found that orb strange. Mainly because that people around it became indoctrinated. And then Shepard just puts it into his cabin. Yeah...that's healthy. 

Also what if it just expanded again? That would leave a sizeable hole in the Normandy.


Hahaha me too, maybe that concept art of that assassin (KL?) dropping into Shep's cabin was trying to steal it. Or Shep's helmet. Or SpaceHamster. Or the fish. Or Shep's cereal.

Fixed for the correct answer ;)

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I can just imagine my barber going:

STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH. YOUR HAIR WILL BE MINE!


I don't even want to know who you see if that's a realistic possibility...

Modifié par DrTsoni, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:16 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.

A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.

This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...

I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?


Yeah I found that orb strange. Mainly because that people around it became indoctrinated. And then Shepard just puts it into his cabin. Yeah...that's healthy. 

Also what if it just expanded again? That would leave a sizeable hole in the Normandy.


Hahaha me too, maybe that concept art of that assassin (KL?) dropping into Shep's cabin was trying to steal it. Or Shep's helmet. Or SpaceHamster. Or the fish. Or Shep's cereal.

There was some strange concept art that didn't make it into the game. For some stupid reason.
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Weird. Didn't even notice Earth until I searched this image.
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Shepard pulling Shepard up huh?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:19 .


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Yeah that CE concept art still boggles my mind a bit.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.

A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.

This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...

I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?


Yeah I found that orb strange. Mainly because that people around it became indoctrinated. And then Shepard just puts it into his cabin. Yeah...that's healthy. 

Also what if it just expanded again? That would leave a sizeable hole in the Normandy.


Hahaha me too, maybe that concept art of that assassin (KL?) dropping into Shep's cabin was trying to steal it. Or Shep's helmet. Or SpaceHamster. Or the fish. Or Shep's cereal.

There was some strange concept art that didn't make it into the game. For some stupid reason.
Posted Image
Weird. Didn't even notice Earth until I searched this image.
Posted Image
Shepard pulling Shepard up huh?


To me, the Shep helping Shep up pic is one of the strongest indicators of planned IT

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BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.

A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.

This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...

I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?


Yeah I found that orb strange. Mainly because that people around it became indoctrinated. And then Shepard just puts it into his cabin. Yeah...that's healthy. 

Also what if it just expanded again? That would leave a sizeable hole in the Normandy.


Hahaha me too, maybe that concept art of that assassin (KL?) dropping into Shep's cabin was trying to steal it. Or Shep's helmet. Or SpaceHamster. Or the fish. Or Shep's cereal.

There was some strange concept art that didn't make it into the game. For some stupid reason.
Posted Image
Weird. Didn't even notice Earth until I searched this image.
Posted Image
Shepard pulling Shepard up huh?


To me, the Shep helping Shep up pic is one of the strongest indicators of planned IT

Wait, how do we know that it's Shepard that Shepard is helping up?

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DrTsoni wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.

A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.

This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...

I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?


Yeah I found that orb strange. Mainly because that people around it became indoctrinated. And then Shepard just puts it into his cabin. Yeah...that's healthy. 

Also what if it just expanded again? That would leave a sizeable hole in the Normandy.


Hahaha me too, maybe that concept art of that assassin (KL?) dropping into Shep's cabin was trying to steal it. Or Shep's helmet. Or SpaceHamster. Or the fish. Or Shep's cereal.

There was some strange concept art that didn't make it into the game. For some stupid reason.
Posted Image
Weird. Didn't even notice Earth until I searched this image.
Posted Image
Shepard pulling Shepard up huh?


To me, the Shep helping Shep up pic is one of the strongest indicators of planned IT

Wait, how do we know that it's Shepard that Shepard is helping up?

We don't know for sure. It's about as likely as the breath scene being Shepard.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:25 .


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"A coward waits for death instead of fighting to stay alive." Shepard; Omega Slums. 2185.

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I think this is too much interpretation just for interpretations sake.

It most likely is Shepards Armor, but the one getting the help could be anyone.

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Except who on Earth had bare arms other than Harbinger'd Shepard?

Though yeah, I don't buy it that it's evidence for IIT (Intended IT).

Modifié par Simon_Says, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:29 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

I think this is too much interpretation just for interpretations sake.

It most likely is Shepards Armor, but the one getting the help could be anyone.

Yeah, but it looks like the breath scene.

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Simon_Says wrote...

Except who on Earth had bare arms other than Harbinger'd Shepard?

This. Until proven otherwise, I'll believe this is Shepard.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Coats is a distraction. Sure BW knew he would be found. It would take peoples mind of the helmet.

A helmet of the same or very similar design can be seen in ME 3 times; 4 if you count finding it on Alchera. You, know, the one that is missing from Shepard's cabin if you took the time to explore the Normandy crash site and grabbed it.

This helmet or one similar can be seen again during the slide show I think. Not sure if that is in destroy only...

I wonder where and where we'll find the 'Prothean' orb?


Yeah I found that orb strange. Mainly because that people around it became indoctrinated. And then Shepard just puts it into his cabin. Yeah...that's healthy. 

Also what if it just expanded again? That would leave a sizeable hole in the Normandy.


Hahaha me too, maybe that concept art of that assassin (KL?) dropping into Shep's cabin was trying to steal it. Or Shep's helmet. Or SpaceHamster. Or the fish. Or Shep's cereal.

There was some strange concept art that didn't make it into the game. For some stupid reason.
Posted Image
Weird. Didn't even notice Earth until I searched this image.
Posted Image
Shepard pulling Shepard up huh?


To me, the Shep helping Shep up pic is one of the strongest indicators of planned IT

Wait, how do we know that it's Shepard that Shepard is helping up?

We don't know for sure. It's about as likely as the breath scene being Shepard.

But we have proof from BW, the files and the official guide that the breath is Shepard. What proof do we have for this? Not arguing, just trying to understand.

Edit: Ninja'd. Shouldn't there be more blood (and burns) though? And I thought the armour went further down her/his arm...Oh well, I see your point.

Modifié par DrTsoni, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:32 .


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Is the beam still "on" in the breath scene? Anyway this would be sort of a slap in the face if the person being helped is a non-caucasian Shepard. Though the arm could be male or female, hard to tell.

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I still find the image of TIM's base with the unique reaper interesting. Its on page 60 of the one that came with CE me3

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

We don't know for sure. It's about as likely as the breath scene being Shepard.


Well, the files for the breath scene are named ShepAlive, so the breath scene is pretty definitely Shepard

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Except who on Earth had bare arms other than Harbinger'd Shepard?

This. Until proven otherwise, I'll believe this is Shepard.


Agreed, but my interpretation is Player Shepard helping Game Shepard.

The final battle leaves Shepard alone save one element. Us.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

I think this is too much interpretation just for interpretations sake.

It most likely is Shepards Armor, but the one getting the help could be anyone.

Yeah, but it looks like the breath scene.


I see it like this:

The whole theme of the game is getting back to earth and saving it, saving humans. Arm is just the representation for all mankind.

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Is the beam still "on" in the breath scene? Anyway this would be sort of a slap in the face if the person being helped is a non-caucasian Shepard. Though the arm could be male or female, hard to tell.


I dont see how its a slap in the face to non-caucasian Sheps. Are the trailers featuring Default MaleShep and Default FemShep slaps in the face to non-caucasian Sheps?

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Would have been creepier if it was the kid from the beginning's arm.

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leonia42 wrote...

Is the beam still "on" in the breath scene? Anyway this would be sort of a slap in the face if the person being helped is a non-caucasian Shepard. Though the arm could be male or female, hard to tell.

Well with the reaper cables it seems that the conduit was damaged/destroyed at some point so I doubt the beam's still functioning.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:33 .


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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

We don't know for sure. It's about as likely as the breath scene being Shepard.


Well, the files for the breath scene are named ShepAlive, so the breath scene is pretty definitely Shepard

TIM -  My point exactly. I'm saying it's very likely this is Shep. As for the caucasian comment, virtually all concept art is default maleshep.

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byne wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Is the beam still "on" in the breath scene? Anyway this would be sort of a slap in the face if the person being helped is a non-caucasian Shepard. Though the arm could be male or female, hard to tell.


I dont see how its a slap in the face to non-caucasian Sheps. Are the trailers featuring Default MaleShep and Default FemShep slaps in the face to non-caucasian Sheps?


That's CGI, not in-game footage, we expect that when they create a default look for Shepard. I don't know, I can just see people REALLY complaining if that is indeed Shepard and it looks nothing like their Shepard. Wearing armour or a helmet keeps Shepard's look neutral, just trying to think outside the box here.

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leonia42 wrote...

Is the beam still "on" in the breath scene? Anyway this would be sort of a slap in the face if the person being helped is a non-caucasian Shepard. Though the arm could be male or female, hard to tell.


Likely default Sheploo. I play exclusively FemShep. Love Meer but could not handle his VA in ME1. I only played Sheploo for Choose Wisely and made up for it with the FemShep doubletake in my sig. ^_^

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Turbo_J wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Except who on Earth had bare arms other than Harbinger'd Shepard?

This. Until proven otherwise, I'll believe this is Shepard.


Agreed, but my interpretation is Player Shepard helping Game Shepard.

The final battle leaves Shepard alone save one element. Us.

Wow, okay, good argument. Starting to make me believe it, at least :P
leonia has a good point, though and what lex0r said was what I initially thought it was.